No worries we have a backup plan. Its called Litecoin
Don't forget Peercoin!
Also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/miners-time-to-deprioritisefilter-address-reuse-334316
But I would question the validity of this website.
Topic: So this is real (Read 4540 times)
Don't forget Peercoin!
Also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/miners-time-to-deprioritisefilter-address-reuse-334316
But I would question the validity of this website.
so these three geeks will represent bitcoin community?! the sharks that would be allocated to deal with these guys will eat them shitless. they will be convincing public to use this service and one day implement it under governmental control. we as a minority will lose voice in decision-making. even if they dont decide to implement this now at least they will analyse the reaction of this community and then do required means to play the game. eventually separating our community from foundation which they will own/control/manipulate in future. the only way i see out of this is if we promote use of different darknet wallet app or we switch to different crypto currency that sorts that problem by design.
No worries we have a backup plan. Its called Litecoin
Technically anyone can do this, since the transactions on blockchain are visible to all
On the positive side, AML and NYC law currently are the only excuse that banks can use to block bitcoin businesses. If this hurdle is cleared, institutional investors will be able to enter the market at large scale. Large mutual fond and pension fond will start to diverse part of they holdings into bitcoin
On the positive side, AML and NYC law currently are the only excuse that banks can use to block bitcoin businesses. If this hurdle is cleared, institutional investors will be able to enter the market at large scale. Large mutual fond and pension fond will start to diverse part of they holdings into bitcoin
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/11/13/sanitizing-bitcoin-coin-validation/
https://coinvalidation.com/
So yes, its real. Big government is here to destroy the anonymity of bitcoin.
What can and will we do about ? For example, Im running a pretty big mining operation, is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?
How can we decentralise the bitcoin foundation as we know it, they are in NO position of descision making, yet they seem to making some pretty big ones, while I and many other miners and users who actually ARE the bitcoin community do not agree with this !
/discuss
https://coinvalidation.com/
So yes, its real. Big government is here to destroy the anonymity of bitcoin.
What can and will we do about ? For example, Im running a pretty big mining operation, is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?
How can we decentralise the bitcoin foundation as we know it, they are in NO position of descision making, yet they seem to making some pretty big ones, while I and many other miners and users who actually ARE the bitcoin community do not agree with this !
/discuss
Yes, you can. Read the BIPs, analyse, make a conclusion what is good for bitcoin from your, miner's point of view and vote:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/miners-time-to-deprioritisefilter-address-reuse-334316
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/11/13/sanitizing-bitcoin-coin-validation/
https://coinvalidation.com/
So yes, its real. Big government is here to destroy the anonymity of bitcoin.
What can and will we do about ? For example, Im running a pretty big mining operation, is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?
How can we decentralise the bitcoin foundation as we know it, they are in NO position of descision making, yet they seem to making some pretty big ones, while I and many other miners and users who actually ARE the bitcoin community do not agree with this !
/discuss
https://coinvalidation.com/
So yes, its real. Big government is here to destroy the anonymity of bitcoin.
What can and will we do about ? For example, Im running a pretty big mining operation, is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?
How can we decentralise the bitcoin foundation as we know it, they are in NO position of descision making, yet they seem to making some pretty big ones, while I and many other miners and users who actually ARE the bitcoin community do not agree with this !
/discuss
Doesn't seems like a problem to me...
[EDIT! Also notice that the domain name has only been registered for one year. Sounds like they're fully committed.] 
Forgive my ignorance, but:
Domain Name: COINVALIDATION.COM
Creation Date: 2013-09-20 15:32:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-09-20 15:32:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Registrant Name: JONATHAN WARREN
Registrant Organization: JONATHAN WARREN
Registrant Street: ONE PENN PLAZA
Registrant City: NEW YORK
Registrant State/Province: NY
Registrant Postal Code: 10119
Registrant Country: US
Admin Name: JONATHAN WARREN
Admin Organization: JONATHAN WARREN
Admin Street: ONE PENN PLAZA
Admin City: NEW YORK
Admin State/Province: NY
Admin Postal Code: 10119
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.5132561868
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.5555555555
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]
"jonwarren.org"
[I Feel Lucky] *click*
"Oh, what's this? A subdirectory called /post."
*click*
Uh oh. Copyrighted music. Just right out there for anyone to grab.
Tsk tsk.
---
Despite all that though, no contact information on the Coinvalidation website, no Privacy Policy, and a "Bitcoin Validated" logo (validated by whom?) that links nowhere.
Yeah, total trust.
Forgive my ignorance, but:
Domain Name: COINVALIDATION.COM
Creation Date: 2013-09-20 15:32:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-09-20 15:32:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Registrant Name: JONATHAN WARREN
Registrant Organization: JONATHAN WARREN
Registrant Street: ONE PENN PLAZA
Registrant City: NEW YORK
Registrant State/Province: NY
Registrant Postal Code: 10119
Registrant Country: US
Admin Name: JONATHAN WARREN
Admin Organization: JONATHAN WARREN
Admin Street: ONE PENN PLAZA
Admin City: NEW YORK
Admin State/Province: NY
Admin Postal Code: 10119
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.5132561868
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.5555555555
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]
"jonwarren.org"
[I Feel Lucky] *click*
"Oh, what's this? A subdirectory called /post."
*click*
Uh oh. Copyrighted music. Just right out there for anyone to grab.
Tsk tsk.
---
Despite all that though, no contact information on the Coinvalidation website, no Privacy Policy, and a "Bitcoin Validated" logo (validated by whom?) that links nowhere.
Yeah, total trust.
The underground market will use alt coin if this were to happen
And the thread is already swarming with idiots that has no idea what they are talking about, and therfore has no idea that they left the topic long ago.
/thread
Hint: Where there is a "free market", there is government. It is possible to have government without a "free market" though.
I just don't come to the same conclusion you are.
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
I concur. Who cares if they do this?
It's like people bitching about Facebook privacy.
"Oh but they should be more private with my shit, blah blah sign my petition share my post blah blah"
Or stop using a service that doesn't provide what you (claim to) want?
"I can't do that it's not practical my friends/family are using it"
How about: Stop bitching, get out of your comfort zone, and find some people who have the same philosophical ideals to be friends with/do business with.
The government is pointless just ignore them and they can't do anything to bitcoin.
Also if you don't like the government don't vote for them
Also if you don't like the government don't vote for them
is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?
No
Free market bitch.
sure buy and sell outside of the us ! no taxes ON btc ..
Fingers crossed this doesn't go ahead or price is gonna plummet.
Itll be hard to go against the movement but we shpuld all try!
You could use Franko instead. 
Thanks for creating yet another thread on this topic. The other 9000 weren't enough.
Obviously the last 9000 threads you reffer to did not solve the problem. So yea we might need another 9000
You've got to be kidding me. Glad to see it does not affect the price(Although I would like for it to go down a little bit).
coinvalidation is not a protocol change.... its a business advisory service to help businesses make policies for AMLKYC. this is not a big deal as its voluntary for use their database and services.
but mike hearn and luke JR's stuff are bitcoin PROTOCOL changes which cant be ignored. people will have to make a choice if these idiotic idea's ever get implemented
these 'judicial' changes are as big factor as protocol changes. Sure we can ignore them, but it will bite us in the ass in the long run. We must stay sharp, analyze, make all necessary precautions.
I just don't come to the same conclusion you are.
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
coinvalidation is not a protocol change.... its a business advisory service to help businesses make policies for AMLKYC. this is not a big deal as its voluntary for use their database and services.
but mike hearn and luke JR's stuff are bitcoin PROTOCOL changes which cant be ignored. people will have to make a choice if these idiotic idea's ever get implemented
these 'judicial' changes are as big factor as protocol changes. Sure we can ignore them, but it will bite us in the ass in the long run. We must stay sharp, analyze, make all necessary precautions.
I just don't come to the same conclusion you are.
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
coinvalidation is not a protocol change.... its a business advisory service to help businesses make policies for AMLKYC. this is not a big deal as its voluntary for use their database and services.
but mike hearn and luke JR's stuff are bitcoin PROTOCOL changes which cant be ignored. people will have to make a choice if these idiotic idea's ever get implemented
Right, but why do people act like they are the same thing, or even related?
I just don't come to the same conclusion you are.
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
coinvalidation is not a protocol change.... its a business advisory service to help businesses make policies for AMLKYC. this is not a big deal as its voluntary for use their database and services.
but mike hearn and luke JR's stuff are bitcoin PROTOCOL changes which cant be ignored. people will have to make a choice if these idiotic idea's ever get implemented
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