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legendary
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November 16, 2013, 03:24:41 PM
#28
I just don't come to the same conclusion you are.
If Coinvaluation wants to provide a sweaky-clean Bitcoin variant some people might want to chose that. Everybody else would just use Bitcoin as it is.
I don't think I have use for the things Coinvaluation plans to provide, but if other people think they do what do I care?
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 03:17:36 PM
#27
The US government will force merchants which sell stuff you'd like to buy to make business with CoinValidation which will going to force you to make business with CoinValidation if you want to buy stuff you'd like to buy.

Is there anything substantial which would suggest that to be true?
The fact that this 3 guys aren't stupid so they certainly know that their business model will fail if it not helped by US law enforcement.

And we can reasonably guess that the regulators will love that idea and make it theirs.

In other words there isn't.
As humans being we have the ability to make logical deductions about the consequences of current facts. Don't give up that ability.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 03:14:04 PM
#26
luke Jr's miner protocol is not 'for the people' or 'for retail' its part of changes to make auditing who owns what easier, by forcing people to use only one address.

miners should avoid protocols such as mike hearns and luke JR's

imagine it:
a retailer only able to use one unique address every 10 minutes.. what is luke JR even thinking!!!!
imagine it:
you want to send funds to 2 people but you dont want them to easily work out your secret stash because one of those people is related to you and will want you to buy them an expensive christmas present.
you have to wait x hours, because starbucks is using each slot of each block. then your 2 uniquely addresses funds you moved around will be 10 minutes apart ATLEAST or hours depending on others.

bitcoin is not american its international so will the bitcoin foundation stop sucking U.S governments ass
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
#25
The US government will force merchants which sell stuff you'd like to buy to make business with CoinValidation which will going to force you to make business with CoinValidation if you want to buy stuff you'd like to buy.

Is there anything substantial which would suggest that to be true?
The fact that this 3 guys aren't stupid so they certainly know that their business model will fail if it not helped by US law enforcement.

And we can reasonably guess that the regulators will love that idea and make it theirs.

In other words there isn't.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:36:06 PM
#24
Who's gonna force me to do business with coin valuation?

Who's gonna force me to do business with health insurance?

Who provides it?
full member
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November 16, 2013, 02:35:06 PM
#23
And the thread is already swarming with idiots that has no idea what they are talking about, and therfore has no idea that they left the topic long ago.

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The foundation is best ignored.

Maybe you are better off talking to the developers at github. What they do, or don't do, probably matters.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
#22
The US government will force merchants which sell stuff you'd like to buy to make business with CoinValidation which will going to force you to make business with CoinValidation if you want to buy stuff you'd like to buy.

Is there anything substantial which would suggest that to be true?
The fact that this 3 guys aren't stupid so they certainly know that their business model will fail if it not helped by US law enforcement.

And we can reasonably guess that the regulators will love that idea and make it theirs.
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November 16, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
#21
This is a bunch of BS. Also I doubt all foreign coin holders care to be regulated by the U.S. especially the Chinese.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:30:51 PM
#20
Who's gonna force me to do business with coin valuation?

Who's gonna force me to do business with health insurance?
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:29:31 PM
#19
The US government will force merchants which sell stuff you'd like to buy to make business with CoinValidation which will going to force you to make business with CoinValidation if you want to buy stuff you'd like to buy.

Is there anything substantial which would suggest that to be true?
hero member
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November 16, 2013, 02:27:53 PM
#18
bitcoin is not US property, its not the problem of the world, that they don't like it. So they adopt or get lost.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:27:47 PM
#17
it wont stop money laundering , they keep telling us " don't worry all you have to do is mix your coins and you are safe " outrageous!

Or I could just not sign up at Coinvaluation.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:24:36 PM
#16
That didn't answer my question, should Coinvaluation be able to do business with the Goverment or not?
Actually they won't do business with government, they will do business with customers who are forced by the government to do business why them.

And it should appear very wrong for any person which think free market is something valuable.

You just said  "doing business with the goverment" 2 posts above. Which one is it.

Who's gonna force me to do business with coin valuation?
I was imprecise.

The US government will force merchants which sell stuff you'd like to buy to make business with CoinValidation which will going to force you to make business with CoinValidation if you want to buy stuff you'd like to buy.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
#15
That didn't answer my question, should Coinvaluation be able to do business with the Goverment or not?

yes sure wtv

but the foundation is ( or should be ) the voice of the community, and should be actively pointing out how Coin Validation wont do any good for anyone


it wont stop money laundering , they keep telling us " don't worry all you have to do is mix your coins and you are safe " outrageous!

it wont do any good, in fact it will most likely always red flag innocent people. Because innocent  people will think their coins are good ( after all they got them legitimately ) and always let criminals through because they know how easy it is to by bass coin validation


its as clear as day!

you have to be stupid to think coin validation is good FOR ANYONE! its total CRAP and it must be stopped

I am soo mad the foundation is not backing 92% of the community
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:18:10 PM
#14
That didn't answer my question, should Coinvaluation be able to do business with the Goverment or not?
Actually they won't do business with government, they will do business with customers who are forced by the government to do business why them.

And it should appear very wrong for any person which think free market is something valuable.

You just said  "doing business with the goverment" 2 posts above. Which one is it.

Who's gonna force me to do business with coin valuation?
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
#13
That didn't answer my question, should Coinvaluation be able to do business with the Goverment or not?
Actually they won't do business with government, they will do business with customers who are forced by the government to do business why them.

And it should appear very wrong for any person which think free market is something valuable.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:10:27 PM
#12
That didn't answer my question, should Coinvaluation be able to do business with the Goverment or not?
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
#11
is there anything I can do with it to boycott/in any way obstruct their work ?


No


Free market bitch.
Doing business with government is not free market.

o rly?

Why should there be an exception? Just think of them as a really big cooperation.  Cheesy
Coinvaluation should be able to do business with that cooperation shouldn't it?
Government are the antithesis of free market. Government's decisions are enforced by sheer force, they are not based on voluntary exchanges.

Making profits because your customers are forced to be your customers not fit within a free market paradigm.
full member
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November 16, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
#10
That's like saying you can only have one email address for your PayPal account.  Huh Or one screen name for your AOL!

With the proposal, only the address changes. Instead of using a bitcoin address directly, you use a sort of a super-address, which can be used to generate a infinitely long stream of regular addresses. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0032)

For us as users not much changes, once BIP32 has been implemented.
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 01:52:18 PM
#9
Thanks for creating yet another thread on this topic. The other 9000 weren't enough.
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