Topic: So... what really happened to Satoshi? Who was this person? - page 2. (Read 2062 times)
No one can vanished in this day and age, I think these threads keep coming out because it's a mystery and people want to find out. The other story that comes to mind but at least we know some more details is Banksy identity.
He said he left the project for a new project. ...
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Satoshi clearly stated on the Cryptography Mailing List in 2008 that :
Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
Theorizing that one could time travel within my own lifetime, I stepped into the quantum leap accelerator and vanished. I awoke to find myself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not my own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. My only guide on this journey is Al, an observer from my own time, who appears in the form of a hologram that only I can see and hear. And so, I find myself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that my next leap will be the leap home.
Welcome to the Bitcoin world and this forum! Even though you heard about Bitcoin awhile ago you are actually joining us just now for real!
Yes, Bitcoin world, the story, technology, etc, is quite amazing. The more you read, the more it sucks you in and the more everything makes sense. I warn you, you will be sucked in and very amazed.
Feel free to open threads and ask questions, about everything that interest you and that you don't understand. And remember, there is no stupid questions, except maybe who is and what happened to Satoshi?
I am just kidding of course! Thanks Mick!
And yeah, no kidding about the bolded text above... when I got here I did get sucked in and amazed, then it amazed me how much it sucked funds from my paycheck due to the cheap coins I felt like I had to grab a while back
. Now that I'm a little older and have a somewhat stable job, I can afford to buy some coins every now and then when I get the opportunity. But bills can be a real pain in the ass, and I've told my self that I won't get sucked in too bad that I would lose the shirt off my back if things go sour. 
For us post-satoshi fellows it is really fun to investigate and speculate about him. The post about FED moving in and Sathoshi moving out is a very nice possible explanation. I think that something related to that is what really happened.
OP i hope you understand that some of the users that responded are not trying to be impolite but really every couple of weeks we have these topics about Satoshi and there is really nothing that anybody can say more about the man that hasn't been said before. So we end up only repeating ourselves.
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Actually, it has been quite a while since there were many questions about satoshi.
May be that the price increase is already attracting new people who are investigating bitcoin and want to know who the mysterious satoshi is.
Well, a little about myself... I have heard of bitcoin since 2012 (one of my friends told me about it briefly), but never bought any coins or knew there was a forum like this place to help out people understand things better about bitcoin in general. I would just check the prices every now and then, and when I saw the prices sky rocket to $1,000+ in 2013 I just thought to myself that it was more of speculation and "stock" rather than a legitimate currency, and that "stock" was way too far out of my price range to start playing... then when I saw prices start failing I thought that I was very lucky that I didn't invest because I would have lost my ass. Then at that point I completely lost interest because I thought surely bitcoin would just end up going back to $0.
A couple months ago, I was bored and kept hitting the "random" button on reddit until I came across an altcoin board and thought "Oh wow another doge coin" (heard about it in other forums, it was more of just a joke when talking about it on there). Then I started reading some of the posts there and it seemed pretty interesting to me, and found a link to bitcointalk, and well, now here I am.
So the more I read, the more I get curious... I've read on here multiple things about Satoshi and never really got a full understanding of everything about him and the history of bitcoin itself... the above posts seem really interesting and I am just now starting to read all of them.
So, if you guys want me to lock/delete the thread, I can, because I've pretty much got all the information I need now. But if you guys would like a more "recent" Satoshi whereabouts speculation thread, then I would be happy to just leave it and learn more along the way.
It's your call.
Welcome to the Bitcoin world and this forum! Even though you heard about Bitcoin awhile ago you are actually joining us just now for real!
Yes, Bitcoin world, the story, technology, etc, is quite amazing. The more you read, the more it sucks you in and the more everything makes sense. I warn you, you will be sucked in and very amazed.
Feel free to open threads and ask questions, about everything that interest you and that you don't understand. And remember, there is no stupid questions, except maybe who is and what happened to Satoshi?
I am just kidding of course! OP i hope you understand that some of the users that responded are not trying to be impolite but really every couple of weeks we have these topics about Satoshi and there is really nothing that anybody can say more about the man that hasn't been said before. So we end up only repeating ourselves.
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Actually, it has been quite a while since there were many questions about satoshi.
May be that the price increase is already attracting new people who are investigating bitcoin and want to know who the mysterious satoshi is.
Well, a little about myself... I have heard of bitcoin since 2012 (one of my friends told me about it briefly), but never bought any coins or knew there was a forum like this place to help out people understand things better about bitcoin in general. I would just check the prices every now and then, and when I saw the prices sky rocket to $1,000+ in 2013 I just thought to myself that it was more of speculation and "stock" rather than a legitimate currency, and that "stock" was way too far out of my price range to start playing... then when I saw prices start failing I thought that I was very lucky that I didn't invest because I would have lost my ass. Then at that point I completely lost interest because I thought surely bitcoin would just end up going back to $0.
A couple months ago, I was bored and kept hitting the "random" button on reddit until I came across an altcoin board and thought "Oh wow another doge coin" (heard about it in other forums, it was more of just a joke when talking about it on there). Then I started reading some of the posts there and it seemed pretty interesting to me, and found a link to bitcointalk, and well, now here I am.
So the more I read, the more I get curious... I've read on here multiple things about Satoshi and never really got a full understanding of everything about him and the history of bitcoin itself... the above posts seem really interesting and I am just now starting to read all of them.
So, if you guys want me to lock/delete the thread, I can, because I've pretty much got all the information I need now. But if you guys would like a more "recent" Satoshi whereabouts speculation thread, then I would be happy to just leave it and learn more along the way.
It's your call.
He said he left the project for a new project. But I think that he left the project for some kind of other thing. May he come back one day and lead bitcoin to success.
Let's assume nakamoto is a male here.
Let's assume nakamoto is a male here.
OP i hope you understand that some of the users that responded are not trying to be impolite but really every couple of weeks we have these topics about Satoshi and there is really nothing that anybody can say more about the man that hasn't been said before. So we end up only repeating ourselves.
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Actually, it has been quite a while since there were many questions about satoshi.
May be that the price increase is already attracting new people who are investigating bitcoin and want to know who the mysterious satoshi is.
OP i hope you understand that some of the users that responded are not trying to be impolite but really every couple of weeks we have these topics about Satoshi and there is really nothing that anybody can say more about the man that hasn't been said before. So we end up only repeating ourselves.
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Google is your best friend. You will find out over there as much as we know.
Cheers!
Nobody can really know for certain. Even if somebody comes out at the real Satoshi they could just be a fake. And the real satoshi would probably want to remain hidden anyway.
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Also, where did Satoshi originally gather up his "disciples" in bitcoin, meaning, on what forum did he originally propose the original idea and developments on?
Here's a link to his original proposal. You can read the early discussions about Bitcoin there that were made in 2008 before the blockchain started running. All the important instigators of Bitcoin posted there like Hal Finney, Adam Back, and Wei Dai. Run a search for Satoshi on mail-archive.com to find his early work on Bitcoin.
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html
Quote
Bitcoin P2P e-cash paper
Satoshi Nakamoto Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:16:33 -0700
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully
peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.
The paper is available at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
The main properties:
Double-spending is prevented with a peer-to-peer network.
No mint or other trusted parties.
Participants can be anonymous.
New coins are made from Hashcash style proof-of-work.
The proof-of-work for new coin generation also powers the
network to prevent double-spending.
Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System
Abstract. A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would
allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another
without the burdens of going through a financial institution.
Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main
benefits are lost if a trusted party is still required to prevent
double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending
problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps
transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based
proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without
redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as
proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came
from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as honest nodes control
the most CPU power on the network, they can generate the longest
chain and outpace any attackers. The network itself requires
minimal structure. Messages are broadcasted on a best effort basis,
and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the
longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they
were gone.
Full paper at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Satoshi Nakamoto
Satoshi Nakamoto Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:16:33 -0700
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully
peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.
The paper is available at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
The main properties:
Double-spending is prevented with a peer-to-peer network.
No mint or other trusted parties.
Participants can be anonymous.
New coins are made from Hashcash style proof-of-work.
The proof-of-work for new coin generation also powers the
network to prevent double-spending.
Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System
Abstract. A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would
allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another
without the burdens of going through a financial institution.
Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main
benefits are lost if a trusted party is still required to prevent
double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending
problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps
transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based
proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without
redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as
proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came
from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as honest nodes control
the most CPU power on the network, they can generate the longest
chain and outpace any attackers. The network itself requires
minimal structure. Messages are broadcasted on a best effort basis,
and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the
longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they
were gone.
Full paper at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Satoshi Nakamoto
Don't beat up Harpua about this. It's a fair question! Everyone would like to know!
The reality is that if someone did know (proper or leaked) information it would be easy to find on the web - especially this forum, which is somewhat of a central location for any gossip or speculation (let alone factual news).
So you're saying Satoshi was Johnny Depp from the movie Transcendence? Obviously this is impossible in 2009. No computer created Bitcoin independent of human intervention. Even if it was an organization that created Bitcoin, humans were behind it. We may never find out who "Satoshi" is. Some say it's one person. Others say it's a collection of technology companies. More people think it's the CIA.
It's fun to talk about, speculate. Harpua, here's a link to some theories...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
The reality is that if someone did know (proper or leaked) information it would be easy to find on the web - especially this forum, which is somewhat of a central location for any gossip or speculation (let alone factual news).
Satoshi was not a "person" and never had any plans to stick around. All that she/he/they had to say was said in computer code. When you deliver source code there is really no need to explain anything more.
So you're saying Satoshi was Johnny Depp from the movie Transcendence? Obviously this is impossible in 2009. No computer created Bitcoin independent of human intervention. Even if it was an organization that created Bitcoin, humans were behind it. We may never find out who "Satoshi" is. Some say it's one person. Others say it's a collection of technology companies. More people think it's the CIA.
It's fun to talk about, speculate. Harpua, here's a link to some theories...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
Man these satoshi topics are really annoying.
What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
Yes! I completely agree with you. I'm actually surprised that such a healthy stance is coming from a member rank. Usually people with a higher rank also waste time writing pointless replies in these threads. It's probably because you're not in a signature campaign. Satoshi threads are pointless and a waste of the data (yes, waste of kb in the database). Nobody is ever going to find out the truth. Satoshi might be dead, might have been a group, might have been a ET, etc. It does not matter anymore. Leave What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
Alright fine, jesus christ... I didn't really see any topics covering it when briefly looking through the first couple pages, maybe I missed a thread. If you want me to delete the thread, I can... but provide me a link to the most prominent thread, because I would like to read up on it.
Don't have to get all butt hurt over a thread topic you've seen a couple times in the past few months... lol
After a Google search you will be inundated with threads asking who is Satoshi and what happened to him. It's been discussed for years since he stopped posting here, and nobody has conclusively proved who he is, where he's from, or what happened to him. None of the example threads I posted have any answers, they only contain pages of speculation.
Here's a ten page thread started in May asking who is Satoshi Nakamoto?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-1069340
Here's an eight page thread started in 2013 asking is Satoshi Dead?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-satoshi-dead-153071
Here's a twelve page thread started in May about the New York Times guessing Nick Szabo is Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1061926.200
Satoshi is the most wanted person/group of person most wanted now. Given his/their intelligence, I am sure he/they know the dangerous situation so we will never find out the real identity...
So, probably the only way to know it is the real satoshi himself, is if he were to log in under his username on here and say that he/she/they is "so and so" person(s)?
Also, where did Satoshi originally gather up his "disciples" in bitcoin, meaning, on what forum did he originally propose the original idea and developments on?
This forum is easily enough hacked for someone to pretend to be Satoshi with a bit of effort. His email was broken into and possibly other places he appeared. The only way he could prove who he was would be a PGP signed message and some coins from the genesis block moving.
The very first appearance was on a cryptographic mailing list. The disciples took a very long time to gather. No one gave a shit for a long time. Digital Gold by Nathaniel Popper is a very interesting read about the earliest days. You got a real sense he was wandering in the wilderness waiting to be found.
Nobody can really know for certain. Even if somebody comes out at the real Satoshi they could just be a fake. And the real satoshi would probably want to remain hidden anyway.
So, probably the only way to know it is the real satoshi himself, is if he were to log in under his username on here and say that he/she/they is "so and so" person(s)?
Also, where did Satoshi originally gather up his "disciples" in bitcoin, meaning, on what forum did he originally propose the original idea and developments on?
Satoshi was not a "person" and never had any plans to stick around. All that she/he/they had to say was said in computer code. When you deliver source code there is really no need to explain anything more.
Nobody can really know for certain. Even if somebody comes out at the real Satoshi they could just be a fake. And the real satoshi would probably want to remain hidden anyway.
Man these satoshi topics are really annoying.
What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
Yes! I completely agree with you. I'm actually surprised that such a healthy stance is coming from a member rank. Usually people with a higher rank also waste time writing pointless replies in these threads. It's probably because you're not in a signature campaign. Satoshi threads are pointless and a waste of the data (yes, waste of kb in the database). Nobody is ever going to find out the truth. Satoshi might be dead, might have been a group, might have been a ET, etc. It does not matter anymore. Leave What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
Alright fine, jesus christ... I didn't really see any topics covering it when briefly looking through the first couple pages, maybe I missed a thread. If you want me to delete the thread, I can... but provide me a link to the most prominent thread, because I would like to read up on it.
Don't have to get all butt hurt over a thread topic you've seen a couple times in the past few months... lol
afaik Satoshi was pretty active in development until the day FED's started lurking around, and started taking statements from people in "inner circle" of bitcoin development.
By law in US, no person is allowed to create their currency, which was probably the reason why he went dark from that moment on. Nothing surprising there, i would do the same.
By law in US, no person is allowed to create their currency, which was probably the reason why he went dark from that moment on. Nothing surprising there, i would do the same.
Man these satoshi topics are really annoying.
What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
Yes! I completely agree with you. I'm actually surprised that such a healthy stance is coming from a member rank. Usually people with a higher rank also waste time writing pointless replies in these threads. It's probably because you're not in a signature campaign. Satoshi threads are pointless and a waste of the data (yes, waste of kb in the database). Nobody is ever going to find out the truth. Satoshi might be dead, might have been a group, might have been a ET, etc. It does not matter anymore. Leave What happened? No one fucking knows. STOP ASKING! YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OUT!!! He just vanished, disappeared without a trace.
If you want a thread about satoshi, just look around the forum and you found THOUSANDS of speculation threads about Satoshi. They are completely absolute spam for sig campaign posters.
So shut up about it!
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