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He doesn't have 500k in BTC. lol

He has nothing. It's a ponzi scheme, so all funds get paid out as interest payments until he can no longer get new funds and they dry up, ponzi goes bust, he disappears.

You could sue each other to claw back interest payments, since it was probably your money who went to everybody else. There's nothing left to recover. Madoff had nothing to show for his $50+ billion ponzi.



So then who owned the bitcoin address that had 500k coins in it and then started shipping coins off in large chunks to many other addresses after the scheme broke down?  Total # of coins exchange could be >>500k with 500 being the peak when all the cash out reqs happened.
Well I would say the amount ended up being a coincidence, and DPR (owner of Silkroad) saw this.  He didn't like drawing attention to the address and having it related to a potential court case ponzi scheme.  So he began washing the coins out to multiple addresses, making it seem like it belonged to BTCST and not Silkroad's cold storage.  Least that's one scenario I can come up with since others have proven that theres 1 transaction hop from depositing to Silkroad, to 1DkyBE.

More here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1196791
hero member
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d) Hire a private collection agency.

My understanding of US law in respect of collection agencies is that all one needs to do is demand that they provide proof of the debt and if they are unable to do that within the required time they must cease contacting you - if they don't do that, then they are subject to fines every time they contact you.  At this point in time, I'm not sure how easy it would be for people to provide sufficient proof.  People ignore debt collectors all the time.  The only real leverage debt collectors have is the threat of your credit being damaged, and I doubt pirate is concerned about that at this point.

sr. member
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So either
a) hire a laywer
b) meet him at his front door with baseball bats
c) STFU

d) Hire a private collection agency.
zyk
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Follow the money !

I applaud you Sirs for letting them divide the loot on IRC, rather than trying to do it here !!

Well done

Cheers Zyk
legendary
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Monero Core Team
Exactly more than enough information has been know about Mr Shavers for weeks now.  No victim has done anything.  Not a single thing.  I don't even think anyone non constructive (like prank phone calls, or vandalism) has been done.  The victims have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  The info has been available.  Hell if you were a real investor you had all the info before sending him a single coin.

Why?
1) Because for weeks many continued to defend him
2) For weeks the same victims bought into the whole delayed payout, needing more info, shifting the blame to PPT, Matt idiot gamble, etc, etc, etc.  It was designed to delay and gradually get you use to the idea that you weren't ever seeing your money again.   If you held out even the slightest hope in the past 3 weeks well it worked.  

So either
a) hire a laywer
b) meet him at his front door with baseball bats
c) STFU

How many threads are needed?  
Do something or don't but there are like 200,000 posts related to the scam.  
Does anyone really think talking about it for another couple weeks is going to make Bitcoins rain out the sky?  Really?
If "one more thead" going to magically convince him to give you your coins back?

TL/DR:
The reality is if you haven't already done anything, you AREN'T going to do anything.  Being honest with yourself is the first step in resolving a problem. Be honest.  Just admit it to yourself that you aren't going to do a single thing about it (and that includes all 200 something victims).  He got away with your money and you know deep down you aren't going to stop him.  Now you can move forward with your lives and maybe stop posting about what someone "should" do.  

BTW: I heard Rusty is offering 3% per week.  Just put twice as much money into Rusty "super secret can't share any details money making biz" (max out some CC if you have to) and in a couple months you will have even more money than before Pirate defaulted.  It is that easy.  You believed it once, why not believe it again.

I applaud you, sir.

I find that a) is a great idea. On the other hand b) is not recommended. Please see below.

sr. member
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Proof-of-Stake Blockchain Network
Exactly more than enough information has been know about Mr Shavers for weeks now.  No victim has done anything.  Not a single thing.  I don't even think anyone non constructive (like prank phone calls, or vandalism) has been done.  The victims have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  The info has been available.  Hell if you were a real investor you had all the info before sending him a single coin.

Why?
1) Because for weeks many continued to defend him
2) For weeks the same victims bought into the whole delayed payout, needing more info, shifting the blame to PPT, Matt idiot gamble, etc, etc, etc.  It was designed to delay and gradually get you use to the idea that you weren't ever seeing your money again.   If you held out even the slightest hope in the past 3 weeks well it worked.  

So either
a) hire a laywer
b) meet him at his front door with baseball bats
c) STFU

How many threads are needed?  
Do something or don't but there are like 200,000 posts related to the scam.  
Does anyone really think talking about it for another couple weeks is going to make Bitcoins rain out the sky?  Really?
If "one more thead" going to magically convince him to give you your coins back?

TL/DR:
The reality is if you haven't already done anything, you AREN'T going to do anything.  Being honest with yourself is the first step in resolving a problem. Be honest.  Just admit it to yourself that you aren't going to do a single thing about it (and that includes all 200 something victims).  He got away with your money and you know deep down you aren't going to stop him.  Now you can move forward with your lives and maybe stop posting about what someone "should" do.  

BTW: I heard Rusty is offering 3% per week.  Just put twice as much money into Rusty "super secret can't share any details money making biz" (max out some CC if you have to) and in a couple months you will have even more money than before Pirate defaulted.  It is that easy.  You believed it once, why not believe it again.

I applaud you, sir.
zyk
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I'm doing my God Damned best, but my last efforts have all been for not. I found a strong connection between Pirate and Global Oil Fund, but all those posts have been removed.

I am not very happy now.

~Bruno~


Who removed them?

That would be interesting.......as pirate sometimes seems to be made appear and disappear and tell this and that in IRC.

Cheers Zyk
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
Wow has pirate said anything lately? lol

someone posted a recent IRC paste which said something like :

are the PPT owners that didnt comply going to get paid ?

and the answer was something like :

they will have to fend for themselves on the high seas  Cheesy.......... or something like that

i think i may have read it in the bitcoinmax thread but so many similar pirate threads thesedays .....Sad

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Wow has pirate said anything lately? lol
donator
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Gerald Davis
Exactly. More than enough information has been know about Mr. Shavers for weeks now.  No victim has done anything, not a single thing.  I don't even think anything non-constructive (prank phone calls, or vandalism) has been done.  The victims have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  It isn't for a lack of information.  Hell if you were a real investor you had all the info before sending him a single coin.

Why?
1) For weeks many continued to defend him.
2) For weeks many bought into the whole delayed payout, needing more info, shifting the blame to PPT, Matt idiot gamble, etc, etc, etc.  
It was designed to delay, obfuscate, and gradually get you use to the idea that you weren't ever seeing your coins again.   If you held out even the slightest hope in the past 3 weeks well it worked.  

So pick one:
a) hire a laywer
b) meet him at his front door with baseball bats
c) STFU

How many threads are needed?  Do something or don't but there are like 200,000 posts related to the scam.  Does anyone really think talking about it for a couple more weeks is going to make Bitcoins rain out the sky?  Really?  If "one more thead" going to magically convince Mr. Shavers to just hand your coins back?

TL/DR:
The reality is if you haven't already done anything, you AREN'T going to do anything.  Being honest with yourself is the first step in resolving a problem. Just admit it to yourself, what Pirate already knows, that you aren't going to do a single thing about it.  He got away with your money and you know deep down you already know you aren't going to do anything.  If you were you would have talked to a lawyer or driven to Texas with your bat weeks ago.  Once you are honest with yourself you can move forward with your lives and maybe stop posting about what someone "should" do.

BTW: I heard Rusty is offering 3% per week.  Just put twice as much money into Rusty's "super secret can't share any details money making biz" and in a couple months you will have even more money than before Pirate defaulted.  It is that easy.  You believed it the magic once, why not believe in it again.
legendary
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
IMHO, either Pirate is Mr. Shavers or nobody is ever going to find himlook for him apart from a couple of people who searched on google   Roll Eyes


FTFY

as time passes this will just drift into the background and thanks to MNW 3 valuable weeks have been wasted which are arguably the 3 most important weeks following any crime to catch him

the more time hes got to distance himself from the money and prepare  hard luck stories the less chance anyone has of being repaid .............
sr. member
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He doesn't have 500k in BTC. lol

He has nothing. It's a ponzi scheme, so all funds get paid out as interest payments until he can no longer get new funds and they dry up, ponzi goes bust, he disappears.

You could sue each other to claw back interest payments, since it was probably your money who went to everybody else. There's nothing left to recover. Madoff had nothing to show for his $50+ billion ponzi.



So then who owned the bitcoin address that had 500k coins in it and then started shipping coins off in large chunks to many other addresses after the scheme broke down?  Total # of coins exchange could be >>500k with 500 being the peak when all the cash out reqs happened.
donator
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I outlived my lifetime membership:)
I'm doing my God Damned best, but my last efforts have all been for not. I found a strong connection between Pirate and Global Oil Fund, but all those posts have been removed.

I am not very happy now.

~Bruno~


Who removed them?
hero member
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He doesn't have 500k in BTC. lol

He has nothing. It's a ponzi scheme, so all funds get paid out as interest payments until he can no longer get new funds and they dry up, ponzi goes bust, he disappears.

You could sue each other to claw back interest payments, since it was probably your money who went to everybody else. There's nothing left to recover. Madoff had nothing to show for his $50+ billion ponzi.

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Man has 500k btc, if someone would return all funds to investors, they would agree to pay him 1% of sum. Which brings us to 5k btc bounty, think thats enough...

Unless a new name-your-own-fee-bounty-hunter (Bounty CoinHunters Inc.[?]) enters the scene. Such a person, or team, would track down the fink(s), use what ever means is possible to have the bitcoins transferred to a new account, then announce to the community that such-and-such took place (sans any crimson details), and the returning of 90% of all bitcoins recovered will now be returned to their previous owner.

Since the internet is the new TV, and "Dog" seems be without a contract, he could do what some other fallen stars have done--create their own internet show. Dog the Coinhunter does have a nice ring to it. What's nice about this idea is than he wouldn't need a license in any state or country to do this.

~Bruno~

5k is not enough, 50k would be worth the trip to texas...Just highering a lawyer would be way more than 5 k...think about it, i have to get him and hold him somewhere...this would not be done legally... Wink

We cross-posted, but on the same page as to the fee, but my idea eliminates the lawyer(s).
hero member
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5k is not enough, 50k would be worth the trip to texas...Just highering a lawyer would be way more than 5 k...think about it, i have to get him and hold him somewhere...this would not be done legally... Wink
donator
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Man has 500k btc, if someone would return all funds to investors, they would agree to pay him 1% of sum. Which brings us to 5k btc bounty, think thats enough...
legendary
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HODL OR DIE
hero member
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for the right price i would find him, the question is where would you want him delivered...
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
put up a bounty...

let people contribute to the  bounty

let the bitcoin bounty hunters do the rest.
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