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Topic: So you have DTs who do not want you to talk openly? - page 2. (Read 1808 times)

sr. member
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I don't think trolls like you should be tagged for spreading falsehoods, but that's just my opinion. 

Same here, I just exclude them in my trust list. I understand why some DT members do so (same for tagging alt accounts). There are currently ~80 DT members and only a hand full are being considered as part of "the gang". Those few members could easily be excluded (including Lauda) if they were actually acting maliciously like all these sad trolls are claiming. The way I see it that Theymos has created a decentralized trust system which will continue to grow with all the new inclusions. Perhaps these bad actors should stop complaining and try to contribute instead.

And it will continue to be even more abusive than it is now the trust system. Talking about decentralization why are only a few people given power, more than decentralization this is just a communist run lobby. That is how I see it.

Speaking as some one very familiar with Communist ideology, it is a spitting image of the Politburo complete with lack of accountability, unpersoning, and punishing dissidents who speak against "the party".

Amen. Preach brother. I'd give you merits but the system won't allow me based on its design - see the other thread. I also have personal experience with communism - well my family did. Anyway, I am not opposed to anyone here and am not calling anyone out, but a quick glance at the forum reveals the lack of decentralization of the current system. Call me a skeptic, but any claims to decentralization deserve scrutiny.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Talking about decentralization why are only a few people given power, more than decentralization this is just a communist run lobby. That is how I see it.

Theymos set clear rules for DT1 qualification, and it applies to everyone.  How is it the forum's fault that you don't make friends easily?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I don't think trolls like you should be tagged for spreading falsehoods, but that's just my opinion. 

Same here, I just exclude them in my trust list. I understand why some DT members do so (same for tagging alt accounts). There are currently ~80 DT members and only a hand full are being considered as part of "the gang". Those few members could easily be excluded (including Lauda) if they were actually acting maliciously like all these sad trolls are claiming. The way I see it that Theymos has created a decentralized trust system which will continue to grow with all the new inclusions. Perhaps these bad actors should stop complaining and try to contribute instead.

And it will continue to be even more abusive than it is now the trust system. Talking about decentralization why are only a few people given power, more than decentralization this is just a communist run lobby. That is how I see it.

Speaking as some one very familiar with Communist ideology, it is a spitting image of the Politburo complete with lack of accountability, unpersoning, and punishing dissidents who speak against "the party".
copper member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 529
I don't think trolls like you should be tagged for spreading falsehoods, but that's just my opinion. 

Same here, I just exclude them in my trust list. I understand why some DT members do so (same for tagging alt accounts). There are currently ~80 DT members and only a hand full are being considered as part of "the gang". Those few members could easily be excluded (including Lauda) if they were actually acting maliciously like all these sad trolls are claiming. The way I see it that Theymos has created a decentralized trust system which will continue to grow with all the new inclusions. Perhaps these bad actors should stop complaining and try to contribute instead.

And it will continue to be even more abusive than it is now the trust system. Talking about decentralization why are only a few people given power, more than decentralization this is just a communist run lobby. That is how I see it.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Just avoiding answers?   It is the TECSHARE way after all....

Look, this has turned petty, as all conversations with you do.   I'm ending it and you can just make up whatever words you want me to say.  Smiley

I did answer you, you just didn't get the answer you wanted. You are making shit up. Also I have no responsibility to answer for anything OG did or did not do. Way to pretend to be the better man Vod, very convincing. I have the number for the ATF if you want to send any more government bureaucracies after anyone else who dares criticize you around here.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Nice selective editing of my quote.   Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .

I didn't edit your quote

Nice dramatics as usual, but put my name to words I did not post.  Anyone can see for themselves you edited my post.

Why is it OK for you that your friend OG misquotes everyone, including the administrator?

Oh?   You make up select rules for people you like/dislike?  Then why constantly complain about that, hypocrite?

Thanks for the reply bones.  Smiley   TECSHARE selectively chooses what he wants to answer.  :/


No logical argument? Just start making shit up. It is the Vod way after all.

Just avoiding answers?   It is the TECSHARE way after all....

Look, this has turned petty, as all conversations with you do.   I'm ending it and you can just make up whatever words you want me to say.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Nice selective editing of my quote.   Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .

I didn't edit your quote

Nice dramatics as usual, but put my name to words I did not post.  Anyone can see for themselves you edited my post.

Why is it OK for you that your friend OG misquotes everyone, including the administrator?

Oh?   You make up select rules for people you like/dislike?  Then why constantly complain about that, hypocrite?

Thanks for the reply bones.  Smiley   TECSHARE selectively chooses what he wants to answer.  :/


No logical argument? Just start making shit up. It is the Vod way after all.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Nice selective editing of my quote.   Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .

I didn't edit your quote

Nice dramatics as usual, but put my name to words I did not post.  Anyone can see for themselves you edited my post.

Why is it OK for you that your friend OG misquotes everyone, including the administrator?

Oh?   You make up select rules for people you like/dislike?  Then why constantly complain about that, hypocrite?

Thanks for the reply bones.  Smiley   TECSHARE selectively chooses what he wants to answer.  :/

Well shit in that case I guess it is ok that Vod is trying to sick huge government bureaucratic steam rollers on people here when it is none of his business to begin with even IF it were true. I for one welcome our new East German Stazi forum overlords.

It's really nobodies business when someone tries to scam, is it?  Curse all morality!   
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Nice selective editing of my quote.   Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .

As usual you are totally full of shit. I didn't edit your quote, I added the rest of my quote which you selectively removed. The fact is that none of this is any of your fucking business to begin with and to pretend you did that for any reason other than to try to harass and intimidate OG in real life is a complete lie.

  Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .
    No, they usually don't kick down someone's door, at first. They usually notify someone in writing  If they want to do an audit, they usually ask in writing for the tax payer's cooperation. The only time they are going to kick in a door is when they want to arrest someone for tax evasion (I believe the FBI actually does this) or they are seizing someone's property. However, a person's case has to be rather far advanced for them to resort to such extreme measures.


Well shit in that case I guess it is ok that Vod is trying to sick huge government bureaucratic steam rollers on people here when it is none of his business to begin with even IF it were true. I for one welcome our new East German Stazi forum overlords.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1828
  Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .
    No, they usually don't kick down someone's door, at first. They usually notify someone in writing  If they want to do an audit, they usually ask in writing for the tax payer's cooperation. The only time they are going to kick in a door is when they want to arrest someone for tax evasion (I believe the FBI actually does this) or they are seizing someone's property. However, a person's case has to be rather far advanced for them to resort to such extreme measures.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him.

I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself.

Watch yourself peeps...  Sad

Nice selective editing. Yeah pay no attention to the IRS kicking in your door, what is important is I posted a personal message in public!

Nice selective editing of my quote.   Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income?  Sad  You should move to Canada .
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him.

I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself.

Watch yourself peeps...  Sad

Nice selective editing. Yeah pay no attention to the IRS kicking in your door, what is important is I posted a personal message in public!

EDIT FOR REFERENCE: The actual post so people can read what was actually said since Vod is using the trust system as his personal play toy for retribution again: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51187013
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
I didn't post his PM because he ignored me.

I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself.

Watch yourself peeps...  Sad
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Be careful what you send in PM, everyone.  If you ignore people, they feel justified in posting your PMs.  Well, a certain asshole, anyway.  :/

Don't you have calls to make to government bureaucracies to try to get your opponents wrapped up in legal trouble as revenge or something? I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him. Truly my crimes know no limits. Next time I will just report him to the IRS instead and everything will be cool Wink
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Be careful what you send in PM, everyone.  If you ignore people, they feel justified in posting your PMs.  Well, a certain asshole, anyway.  :/
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
The Default Trust Stazi Squad,

PFFFT more like the Clinton Pedo Ring cover up Squad!   Grin

You are a special kind of stupid!
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Exclusions have nothing to do with me considering people a scammer, that's what the feedback system is for. I do not consider you a scammer but the fact that you publically post PMs makes me think that you are not trustworthy. Simple as that.
I don't think TECSHARE is a thief at all.  In fact, if he wasn't such a cocksucker and didn't think the same of me, I would have no problem doing a bitcoin deal with him in which I sent bitcoin first.  I don't think he'd run away with my money.

The reasons he's excluded from my trust list are that he's shown poor judgement in his feedback-leaving history, which is the whole reason why he got booted off DT a few years ago, and that he's way too emotional (to the point of being unstable) when I've had disagreements with him.  I had to block his PMs because be wanted to continue an argument in a thread that I didn't wish to continue, and he kept sending aggressive-toned PMs to me.  And look at the neutral feedback he left me, and tell me it isn't aggressive:

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Just because you can't argue your points without personally attacking me is not my fault. You tell yourself whatever you like and block my messages. It doesn't change the fact that you are just a child throwing a fit because I hurt your frail little feelings by pointing out the flaws in your arguments. Of course if you simply just debated the subject none of this would be an issue now would it?

P.S. if I was threatening you, you would know it.

That was in 2016, and here he is, still arguing with people the exact same way.  Meanwhile, I think I've mellowed a lot since then (occasional outbursts aside).  In any case, this is probably why a lot of other DT members have excluded TECSHARE from their trust lists.

Oh I left you a neutral! HOW ABUSIVE! Please stop pretending this is about my judgment and not just your personal panties in a bunch over your inability to have a debate about a subject concerning the entire forum, and you being butt hurt I left you a neutral rating over it. I don't think you are a cocksucker, and even if I did frankly you probably suck the least cock of all the cocksuckers I consider cocksuckers. IMO your behavior has improved and you are starting to see the big picture here, but you are still a little confused as to who the real enemies are. Currently I think you have good intentions but are simply misguided. You are right, that was in 2016, and you still have your panties in a bunch over it? Who is unstable here?


The freedom I am referring to is being able to be critical of the default trust priest class without the punitive punishment of exclusion as punishment for doing so. No one is free to speak or be critical of the Default Trust Stazi here any more, your continual slander of me for doing nothing more than speaking critically is just further evidence of it. All of those retards are just convenient tools for you to dismiss legitimate criticisms and pretend it is all the same. The primary difference between myself and them is you don't have the convenient option of just labeling me as a scammer so you have to try to lump me in with "trolls".

That is simply not true. I don't need to label you in any way or even justify my exclusion of you. It's just that you don't like being excluded and you're trying to come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories to make it seem like the reason is not your own behavior.

If anything, being constructively critical of the trust system would be a good reason for me to include someone, and I've done so on a couple of occasions. I would consider including you if you weren't such an unstable hypocritical knucklehead.

You throw lots of labels at me, funny no one ever is able to point at any specific circumstances where I went too far. If they do it always seems to be a standard that they are willing to apply to me but not their special pals. It is always some nebulous label, they wave their hands, say abracadabra and call it justified.


~snip~

Is that so? Maybe some one should tell that to the 13 cult members excluding me because they don't like my criticism of their pals. I am sure the long list of people on the list no one has ever heard of are far more trustworthy. My crimes are too numerous to count after all.
Have you at least considered the possibility that all exclusions in their trust list are all from individual encounters and from different reasons? Like from what @TheNewAnon135246 is telling us he has a different reason why you have been removed from his trust list he didn't plan with anybody else to exclude you he has his own reason why he did it and not one of it is to gang up on you.

Have you ever considered that these people are simply taking signals from The Default Trust Stazi Squad, consciously or otherwise, and are influenced to do things like this over minor issues because they have collectively crafted a false narrative? They do it all the time. Watch any time one of the chosen gets into trouble, the whole team rolls in to defend them from criticism attempting to burn anyone down that points the issue out at any cost.
newbie
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I have no control over what Lauda does, but obviously Lauda doesn't trust you and has given you a neg accordingly.
But she is in your trust list and you trust her judgment.
http://archive.is/N1PSw#selection-539.0-541.1
 
I wish I could disclose my real account. See this is the exact reason very few people have balls to speak up from the real account. And I told you before that you stands in between. I completely understand the reason.

(even though I get the "gang" label)
Not yet but it's clear that you are trying it hard.
You are better than this mate. You are proving that Lauda is your master and you gonna listen whatever she says. Have your own identity.

I believe from the heart that the accusation Quickseller bought against you is possibly wrong but an acknowledgement from you can make everything very clear. The community trusts you but you are acting so naive that you do not give a damn to anyone else (community) except the words from Lauda.
hero member
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~snip~

Is that so? Maybe some one should tell that to the 13 cult members excluding me because they don't like my criticism of their pals. I am sure the long list of people on the list no one has ever heard of are far more trustworthy. My crimes are too numerous to count after all.
Have you at least considered the possibility that all exclusions in their trust list are all from individual encounters and from different reasons? Like from what @TheNewAnon135246 is telling us he has a different reason why you have been removed from his trust list he didn't plan with anybody else to exclude you he has his own reason why he did it and not one of it is to gang up on you.
legendary
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The freedom I am referring to is being able to be critical of the default trust priest class without the punitive punishment of exclusion as punishment for doing so. No one is free to speak or be critical of the Default Trust Stazi here any more, your continual slander of me for doing nothing more than speaking critically is just further evidence of it. All of those retards are just convenient tools for you to dismiss legitimate criticisms and pretend it is all the same. The primary difference between myself and them is you don't have the convenient option of just labeling me as a scammer so you have to try to lump me in with "trolls".

That is simply not true. I don't need to label you in any way or even justify my exclusion of you. It's just that you don't like being excluded and you're trying to come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories to make it seem like the reason is not your own behavior.

If anything, being constructively critical of the trust system would be a good reason for me to include someone, and I've done so on a couple of occasions. I would consider including you if you weren't such an unstable hypocritical knucklehead.
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