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Topic: Socialism vs capitalism ,which one is good for us ?? (Read 788 times)

legendary
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I'm more curious what happens after robots and automation take over. How will capitalism survive when there are no jobs left?

The only capitalism left will be mega corporations that control all the robots.

In order to maintain capitalism among themselves - since all the poor people will have starved to death because they can't pay for robot-produced goods - big corporation controllers will start capitalism among their robots... between big corporations. It will become like the early years of Solaria in Isaac Asimov's Foundation and Earth.

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member
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I'm more curious what happens after robots and automation take over. How will capitalism survive when there are no jobs left?

They will be forced to implement a universal basic income or else there will be mass rioting and citizens will overthrow the government.
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newbie
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I'm more curious what happens after robots and automation take over. How will capitalism survive when there are no jobs left?

The only capitalism left will be mega corporations that control all the robots.
jr. member
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Unregulated Capitalism is so beautiful, A world where Jeff Bezos is worth $150 billion while others are living on $1 a day.

It's so beautiful that owners can extract as much wealth as possible from their workers while paying them peanuts, all hail capitalism.
sr. member
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Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

capitlism failed multiple times, last time it failed was, just before the holocaust,

now i am afriad capitalism will fail again, because everyone wants to create cryptocurrencies and find money earning cattle that work for it.

Capitalism didn't fail in the Weimar Republic. Capitalism as it is implies that governments do not intervene in the economy by any means. While the hyperinflation in Weimar Republic was caused exactly by governmental inrventions and uncontrolled printing of money.

capitalism creates governments sooner or later, just observe the current cryptochaos people sooner or later will desire a solution for that
legendary
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How One Deleted Scene Turns Star Wars into a Struggle against Socialism





In the era of Disney, many long-time Star Wars fans have bemoaned the supposed infiltration of their favorite franchise by leftist ideology. 

At first, I rolled my eyes at these objections, many of which remain patently absurd. But after Solo: A Star Wars Story gave us a shrill SJW droid hooking up with a pansexual Lando Calrissian, I had to admit that some critics might have a point. 

This wasn't always the case, though. In fact, one of the deleted scenes included in the 2011 Star Wars Blu-Ray collection explicitly connects the evil Galactic Empire with the socialist economic policies of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.


Luke & Biggs - Star Wars DELETED Scene (IMPROVED)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7NVb0OCD5g



Read more at https://fee.org/articles/how-one-deleted-scene-turns-star-wars-into-a-struggle-against-socialism/.


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newbie
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in my opinion, the best between socialism and capitalism is still a mixture of both.
newbie
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Capitalism is way better. Every single person has an equal possibility to conquer on the free market with the best and cheapest product. That way the whole society benefits.
member
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Capitalism concentrates the majority of wealth at the top.  In America wages have barely moved while housing has risen drastically.  There is a major homeless problem across the world.  I'm not advocating for complete communism but a universal basic income would be a great start.
copper member
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Finding a middle ground between socialism and capitalism will good for the society. Innovation moves the economy forward. Growth is important in the global economy for a country to stay competitive and to be able to deliver in its budgets. Equality is important for people’s well-being and for the economy’s ability to grow. Social mobility is important because it means that you can be born in poverty and die in wealth, and reverse, depending on how hard you work.
newbie
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Capitalism. Not only because there hasn't been a model of socialism that isn't a utopia, but also because capitalism is functioning well for many. Aspects of both are needed for the perfect world, but in our world today I am happy with capitalism.
Wikipedia defines "utopia" as "an imagined community or society that possesses highly desirable or nearly perfect qualities for its citizens." Isn't that actually a good thing? I guess the problem is that it seems we haven't been able to implement one of those perfect imagined communities in real life yet.

I think capitalism is always great for the people on top. The rich get richer, as they saw. I do think though, in a society with limited amounts of corruption, there is always opportunity. I think that no matter what your origins are, in capitalism, you can always go up if you go about it smartly.
newbie
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Capitalism. Not only because there hasn't been a model of socialism that isn't a utopia, but also because capitalism is functioning well for many. Aspects of both are needed for the perfect world, but in our world today I am happy with capitalism.
jr. member
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Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

capitlism failed multiple times, last time it failed was, just before the holocaust,

now i am afriad capitalism will fail again, because everyone wants to create cryptocurrencies and find money earning cattle that work for it.

Capitalism didn't fail in the Weimar Republic. Capitalism as it is implies that governments do not intervene in the economy by any means. While the hyperinflation in Weimar Republic was caused exactly by governmental inrventions and uncontrolled printing of money.
newbie
Activity: 79
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I think that many governments of wealthy countries had a bit of a mix of socialism and capitalism. People are allowed to own capital, but it is very limited. In those societies people can get rich, but they pay a big price for it. Some countries have more than 50% income tax once you start making a lot of money. These people can still keep earning more and more money, but as they do so they are also putting tons of it back into the society. This allows the government to share more of the wealth among its citizens. Hardcore capitalists are usually against such heavy taxation. Capitalism is more individualistic, while socialism thinks more about the welfare of everybody.
jr. member
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As i learned socialism is only good in theory. when applied to a real life society it doesn't work out,  capitalism has proved to work in  a society although not perfect but  much better than socialism
legendary
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Capitalism is Superior Competition between private owners of production creates lower prices, greater efficiency, and improved quality. People are motivated to do their best when they see the results of their effort. Capitalism aligns the incentives, and people thus are motivated to work hard and overall help the economy. People have economic liberty. Socialism removes these incentives, if John works twice as hard for the commune, he doesn't see another dime. In Capitalism, John would benefit from his work.

Capitalism has lifted far more people out of poverty, and raised standards of living higher than any other economic system. The evolutionary force of the market inspires innovation and ingenuity. Over time, this system ensures economic liberty, prosperity, and human progress.
Some don't talk to newbies  BUT this involves everyone  so lets break it down what you had to say..

Capitalism aligns the incentives, and people thus are motivated to work hard and overall help the economy..
Everyone has to capitalise or how do you socialise ?..The difference is when you capitalise do you share the profits or do you let people keep them all?..

So who pays for police army roads trains hospitals schools ..
Now the point is you could privatise it all?   You have toll roads on every 1 mile?  less money out your wages well you need to pay for roads..

Police privatise the police?    Then you won't get protected if you get something stolen or attacked because you never paid your monthly police bill  plus what other things will a private police company do ?   meaning even more gone out your wages..

Hospitals privatised most cannot afford the insurance now in the USA so millions have no medical aid basically die you never paid  so paying medical insurance means even more gone out your wages ..


A home how much does that cost to get a mortgage   so because of low paid high costing plus all things private your paying just to live and get by ..

And this is why so many will take a risk at doing some crime to be rich   factory job dead end job that leads to nowhere ..

See ok if your from another country and your countries wages was low   It's like me from the UK going to DUBAI and getting a factory job for 1,500 a week for a factory worker   I can send loads back home and my family would benefit ..


You can have a choice ..IMAGINE for 1 minute  you have 100 people ?..

Now if 10 are rich and 20 are doing ok  BUT 70 are doing really bad  what would you rather live in because 70 people are going crazy in your 100 people village..

Now imagine 3 was rich and 70 was doing good and 27 was really poor then only 27 people going crazy in your 100 people village ..
And that is SOCIALISM^^^^^^^^^

So imagine an overall population of millions the less that are poor the less crazyness FACT..

Do you know the cost to the tax man because of poverty cost more than just saying here their is 10k a year..

1 POOR PERSON CAN COST MORE THAN 10K IN CRIMINAL DAMGE ..the law cost police cost all cost more than just saying here you go 10k every year and go and find a job and you still keep your 10k...Where does it come from?   DIDGETS ON A SCREEN  same as what the bank does ..

You YANKS are 20 trillion in debt so where is your capitalism Undecided Undecided..  Borrowing off someone else future children is not CAPITLISM it's borrowing ..


I say a UNIVERSAL INCOME a starting point of 10k every year till we die    we all get it no matter how rich we become  we still get it ..

So how did people make a crypto token    money out of thin air    all the erc20 tokens  money out of thin air ..

OK for a UNIVERSAL INCOME   i will give everyone 10k and borrow it all on the strength of me finding a planet fall of gold ..
Well it's the same as some devs promises   and you invented free money out of thin air..
member
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I am now 41 years old and I have lived almost 15 years in socialism (Ukraine).
And this is what I will answer you:
Socialism is a system in which all are equal, and you can not translate your ideas and dreams into reality if it is not accepted by the rules for all.
Capitalism - always gives a chance to a person to do what he likes and choose his life according to his personal taste.
There are many good things that I remember from socialism, but I do not want to go back there !!!
legendary
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A step towards socialism is a step towards genocide..
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

capitlism failed multiple times, last time it failed was, just before the holocaust,

now i am afriad capitalism will fail again, because everyone wants to create cryptocurrencies and find money earning cattle that work for it.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 1192
Socialism is good for us because, capitalism allows the rich to remove money from the economy, making the quality of life for everyone else worse. While socialism takes the excess that people do not need, and gives it to those who do.

And socialism wants the rich to pay for the poor's inability to work, laziness, and everything else. It creates a society where you are afraid to set up a business and make a lot of money to fuel the economy and give jobs because the more you will make the more taxes will await you. And the majority will be given for free so that the poor can learn to rely on the state and vote to keep everything going.

Politicians get elected by the majority which in most countries are the poor >>> they give money to the poor and take it from the rich >>> get elected again. But this has a huge flaw. The rich may one day decide they don't want to live in a country that steals from them and move somewhere else. France serves as an example.
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