Topic: Socialism vs capitalism ,which one is good for us ?? - page 2. (Read 770 times)

Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

Socialism, but with the help of an comprehensive computer system for economic planning and without any kind of dictatorship. The problem is, that socialism is impossible in a certain country, as it is a threat for capitalism in the others.

I’ve read alot of different opinions in this thread and it happened waht always happens. People start talking about a word they think has a clear meaning but actually has not.
Before we keep talking we should actually define what ‚socialism‘ means to you.

Socialism in the way marx though about: a basic democratic socienty whre everyome has the chance to persue his or her personal ideas.
Socialism ‚soviet style‘ (ignoring mhalf of marxs‘ texts): actually a better suited word for it is ‚stalinism‘ a oligarchy/dictatorship under the proclaimed ideals of socialism. The people are oppressed to fulfill ome or a few men‘s ideas. Individualization is suppressed.
Social-democratic countries like austria: free markets but heavily regulated to reduce the negative effects of capitalsm (like the rich getting richer) but harmess its potentials, like free persuit of ideas.

I personally would love to see a real socials/marxis society to be created. Aworld where I can live my dreams free from the need to make money.
Realistically a social-democratic socienty is the best way to live. It‘s easy to implement in short terms.

Socialism is good for us because, capitalism allows the rich to remove money from the economy, making the quality of life for everyone else worse. While socialism takes the excess that people do not need, and gives it to those who do.

you need both, a capitalism with sufficient socialism inside,

it will nevertheless create a wealth and power parity with few holding a lot of power and many holding nothing but at least a bigger portion of the population will be able to develop educated skills and will look much less like illiterate money earning cattle like in afghanistan/pakistan.

for me, both system are not ok. capitalism will promote inequality while socialism will promote popularity without distribution of wealth equally

Lets do some more FREE WILL   FREE CHOICE ..

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I feel a SONG COMING..

Fluffy clouds and candy floss makes the world feel boss
fluffy clouds and candy floss
fluffy clouds and candy floss

If only the world was fluffy clouds and candy floss
we would all feel really really boss


I will finish the rest of the song when the world turns to fluffy clouds and candy floss td whiles the world then maybe we can have free choice  when we have fluffy clouds and candy floss..

And whiles the world turns into a capitalism globe we will expect many more dying for someone else stinky trainers < Shot in the head for STINKY TRAINERS ..

So ENJOY this FREE CHOICE because it sure does sound very crazy..< shoot you for trainers < Free choice.

No but i am well off and that's not right?..

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You cannot have free choice        no such thing unless you want chaos ..

I want laws made by elected people who know what they talk about ..
Not some unelected bullshit talker who promises you the world then turns out to be a scumbag political
bum thief ..

Freedom of choice is i will kill you and take your monies   WHY NOT?  it's my free choice?..

Now everyone PONDER OVER THAT

socialism vrs. capitalism
The 21st century is dominated by free trade and multinational corporations who are principal agents who produce and goods and services. This gives us (consumers) a variety of goods and services to choose from for satisfaction which allows for the efficient operation of the forces of demand. Contrary to Socialism which has the central government at the heart of the economic affairs.This limits consumers freedom to trade and choice of goods and services to consume. Capitalism has government afraid of their increasingly reduction of sovereignty.This is evident in the initial rejection  of  the cryptocurrency by the world governing bodies . So I would like to ask anyone regardless of their predisposition, which do you prefer, a system of freedom of choice  or one of constant interference and scrutiny by the government? PONDER OVER THIS

Capitalism the few benefit < The rich get richer until they suck it all up collapsing the currency ..

Socialism the many get by < Borrow high taxes until it's all gone then it collapses ..

communism everyone the same < A trained pilot on the same as an unskilled bin man in the end it collapses
because why should i train and learn and be on the same as someone who doesn't ..

None of the 3 can survive all on their own ..
Need to mix all 3 for the world to keep turning ..

A universal income for everyone will make this planet way way better just the greedy who have it all cannot see this because they love people being DOWN ..

10k starting point to live every year when we reach 21 years old ..
10k doesn't make you rich just helps for the domestic things in life so we can find better jobs or even do a job for £20 extra a day plus your 10k  makes life so much better ..

Yes but it's OK for a POLITICIAN to be on 100k for talking complete bullshit..

Some of those MPs have been put there by parents ..KINNOCK robbing scum ..

But with socialism everyone has the chance of creating wealth for themselves and i will not say that Capitalism is associated with the unfair distribution of wealth because i have seen people without a dime make an unimaginable fortune but the same cannot be said about socialism.

Socialism is better for the economy as it implies an economy that is watched closely by those in charge and is manipulated to be at it's peak at all times. On the other end of the spectrum, Capitalism is better for the individual as it allows the individual to do what they want with their life without government interference and allows for maximum happiness. Overall, which is better depends on whether you value the economy or the individual more.

Socialism is meant for the lazy people, who want to live off others hard work. The problem with socialism is that as the system progresses, we will be having less and less hard-working people with every passing year. Such people will either emigrate to other countries, or stop working altogether.

jes ehm modern capitalism that the usa spreads is a neofeudal form of capitalism where the rich own income sources and the poor are forced to sell their times.

this system will never end as the rich always try to secure their position better and better.

Capitalism is a voluntary system.

Socialism requires force.

You choose Force? Why?

Socialism involves equal distribution of wealth while Capitalism is somehow what you do is what you get. I must say that the one that is good for us is the Capitalism. Through that, equality can be achieved as when you worked hard, you will be paid off and if you don't, then you also don't have to get from it. It is not being selfish, it is being fair on everyone. We all should do something for our lives and we are the one who should lift our life not anyone in the society. People in the lowest part of the society should be helped but not in the way that they will not do something for their own. Maybe that's the reason why I prefer Capitalism over Socialism.

I prefer capitalism because I think that socialism is an ideology for adolescent people. There are many pros of capitalism:

1. Resources are used as efficiently as possible.
2. Production is adjusted to the needs of the market.
3. There is a constant improvement of the ways of management and organization, introducing new technologies, creating innovative products.
4. There is a motivation to improve skills, to work productively.
5. Both the consumer and the producer are free to choose what to buy and what to produce.
6. Commodity abundance. There is no shortage, there are no queues, you can buy any product almost anywhere.

All of the things in this world, if taken into extremes, would be not good for all of us --- just like socialism and capitalism. Both ideologies do have pros and cons. For socialism, it advocates for equal and fair distribution of resources for the society to grow simultaneously. It provides what people need in order for them not to be left behind. On the other hand, capitalism pushes a healthy competition for us to grow. It paves way for a development through giving people what they deserve. But if I were to choose between the two, I would pick capitalism but with a mix of socialism. Because I do believe that people should not be stagnant and complacent and should strive more for them to develop more through a healthy competition. However, we must not forget people who are in the bottom pf the society. Because there is nothing more that fulfilling than to see all of you grow.

wow thanks for the information, i haven't hear about that before. but im not in any side neither capitalism nor socialism. i just said that both always have pros and cons, and the way of thinking of the citizen itself that can make the cons in other mind to be the pros in their mind 

there are no such thing as black or white, most of the thing fall into grey areas, so a healthy mix of socialism with capitalism can be a good option, pure capitalism has its own problem whereas pure socialism has proved to be disaster in the past so mixture of both of them would serve the purpose. Pure capitalism or pure socialism has very peculiar problems which arises when either of them are applied in their fullest form. they lead to accumulation of wealth, power & drifts the already wedge between rich and poor.