Topic: Solosanz reputation (Read 476 times)

Stop making posts which has no value left. Quote one or two comments, repeat what was told before, stat to agree or disagree and then leave the topic. Long ago I read an analogy which was like: There are 50% changes to rain today. I agree with you, it will rain but I also think we will have a sunny day today. The topic is done.

Good job dragonvslinux, thanks for the time you invested reviewing his trust page. Let's lock it.

I agree there is no DT mafia but I would not make it exclusively about a group of people who have the same feelings on a particular issue. There are several gangs and cliques here, that cannot be denied. Some do work in unison and in collusion with each other to troll and attack when they want and to push their own agendas, again that has been seen in the forum.

Overall, the race to get to DT1 for some people as well as the 1000 merit for Legendary rank is the driving force behind conduct. I am not making any comment either way on the allegations against Solosanz but you are right, there are members here who say what they want including calling out scams whether they are DT or not.

It's pretty common that someone will "retaliate" with distrusting you after you distrust them... ironically there's a logic to distrusting someone who distrusts you, even if not based on trust feedback or how trust lists are supposed to work. As others have said, I'd ignore. If anything, it's confirmed your theory that the "feedback" isn't trust worthy and you were right to add to your distrust list. Well done.


Not exactly. I had a look at feedback left from this user and to be honest there isn't a lot of it.
At least not in league with the likes of Lauda, mosprognoz, JollyGood and others....

Ideally though, let's stick to the reasons why you would distrust this member: trust feedback.

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Notably the flag against Royse777 was withdrawn which was the right thing to do imo:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2984

(But I don't know if this was simply after enough DT members had opposed it?)

However this inactive flag I think should also be withdrawn (after debts repaid to [banned mixer]):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3079

I see the argument for the flag at the time, but doesn't seem accurate anymore since money has been returned.

Ironically the other two flags are badly done as well...

One is referencing a scam claim without any evidence (at least not on page 1, only suspicions at best):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3030

The other is linking to a casino's ANN, no flag-based topic of scamming, how is this even reasonable?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3018

I imagine the user has good intentions and just got "carried away with flags" after Royse777 flag was activated. But either way will add to my exclusion list until the accuracy of feedback improves. Ideally it will.
Have otherwise opposed referenced flags as links are unreasonable. Good chance those casinos are scams, but evidence should be provided for such a flag.  Solosanz's feedback isn't anymore insightful either.

@Swordsoffreedom @bitmover @lovesmayfamilis: I think you should reconsider including Solosanz in your trust list, for reasons provided. Specifically, the inaccurate use of current trust flags.

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@BitcoinGirl.Club
Maybe next time when referencing a member being "untrustworthy" you can reference their trust feedback, rather than their personality, opinions, age of account or topics created?
No offence but I feel like I had to do a lot the work myself here! Thanks for creating topic though in order to review.

Yeah, look at me for example.  I don't need DT to let it be known what downright prick I am.  I've been doing that for decades, a lot longer than I've a member here.  And, I've got the scars to prove it, some dating back to grade school.

All kidding aside, the harassments that some DT members impose on lower ranked accounts is something that really bugs me.  Lately, other DT members have been subject to subject to my assholery more than any other group.  I tend to agree with BitcoinGirl.Club about the subject of his OP, it definitely seems like this individual is focused on growing his influence.  The question is why?

The "why" could have many different answers, among them could be wanting the rank for earning potential, having a need for power, or simply wanting to feign trustworthiness to execute a long-con.  Regardless, there are certain members who's behavior suggests reaching DT is the goal, but using the authority in a responsible manner isn't.

It's a race if you have an agenda maybe. Some view DT as power. Power to bully, power to threaten, power being in the DT mafia, you have a scam you want to pull off, or power to bring out the real you. Sort of like they gotta be DT to share their personal opinions about a user without facing any drama.

None of that is actually true. You bully or threaten users, you face the possibility of being removed from DT. There is no actual DT mafia, there's just a group of people who have the same feelings on some issues. Every DT member does not agree on everything. Bringing out the real you doesn't need DT status to happen either. If you're an asshole or don't like someone you have the right to let them know. It doesn't have to be a public announcement or anything. People are not stupid on here, most aren't anyways. There are some super intelligent users roaming around this place and if they smell a scam, they'll call you out. DT or not.

I still don't understand why being a DT member should be a race some people will always want to contest for by all means even while bringing down or stepping on others reputation to fulfill their own interest, to me it makes no difference from being a regular member since it's not that you're getting paid or the likes for it, i believe some were already finding a means out of it while some struggle to join all because of recognition which you can apparently get when you're a quality poster on the forum.

I don't agree with the way he is questioning accounts without having solid proof. Basically is x user the real owner and could make that same argument for every account on the forum.

Is he doing it to gain rep and merit fast? Possibly, but currently he isn't doing anything against the rules of the forum. If he has questions about a user he needs to go about it differently by maybe going into detective mode and questioning the user in pm vs making a rep thread.

You have already added him to your distrust list, that's really all you can do.

Just my opinion.

The point is I have a history of long eight years. Not a cheap dog who are going away by scamming others. If I have business or anything bad in mind with the account then I would not hang here for the long period. I would farm trust in a few months or years and you would never discover me because you would have been none existed. May be I could do the bad thing twice before you entered in the forum. And by now I would had third pull and working on the fourth LOL

I don't see anything bad to create one after another reputation topic against everyone but I have problem if that is an account who joined few months or years ago and doing it to farm trust, doing it to earn quick reputation and ranking up, making it a day job. Only they know what will they do with it but you can not deny the possibility that they will use the opportunity and rob someone when they get opportunity. Don't we have many examples so far? Should I give some names?

I see trust whoring is still a hot trend. When you wanna complain about trust, it should be about bullying, misuse of trust flag/ feedback. If someone is accusing others wrongfully and others are blindly following, report it, but someone trusting or distrusting someone else is not a good excuse.
I should say this here, I very much like the monthly rotation of DT1, even though it resembles the monthly period time for women, it is an interesting sight to see people going up and down, this month you could be red, next thing you know it's all green.😉

I don't think you should be worried about this. There are very few people who use the feedback system correctly. Everyone looks for their own benefits, and own interests. I have observed this retaliation a lot of times from some people who take these internet activities too personally and someone took it too personally that they tagged me for no reason. Just because I had them on my distrust list because of their stupid use of the feedback system.

Better you move on. Let people do whatever they wish.

Edit- I just noticed someone distrusted me and that might be because I didn't pick them in my campaign lol (I assume).

Let's start why I distrusted you last week.

You are an ALT account, digging others post history to make a name for you, throwing mud on the wall hoping something to stick^more. All because you are one of those users who wants to have a space in DT so that whatever desire you have, you can fulfill. One of those typical DT and merit hunters. I don't trust these type of members. Hence you are in my distrust list.

What is your reason to distrust me? Retaliation or you found I left wrong feedback to others. Did you find me to earn a bad name in a trade where I did not pay in a deal?

Solosanz's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Swordsoffreedom (Trust: neutral) (113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. bitmover (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 4216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3505 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Source: Loyce.club (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-03-11_Sat_05.07h/2789068.html)

To you guys, do you see a pattern of another scam buster who are making scam hunting as a day job?
As long as he has a desire to earn from signature and things, it's fine. But an alt account could have a bad motive. Just like we suspect a bought account can pull a scam. Does he have a long forum history that you trust him and he is not going to misuse his DT status? No.

Most of you are fighting against scammers but consider some of your action that are easily earned by people who are looking for opportunity is not going to be misused.

More:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5404743
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitlucy-withdrawal-problem-does-this-acceptable-5402179 (most successful one if not wrong)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chaser15-abusing-the-rules-of-campaign-5395403
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/andyst-the-next-abuser-of-stake-campaign-5402584