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Topic: Some annoying things that beginners do (but also some old members) - page 2. (Read 654 times)

legendary
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To extend on the "Using the Quote" option part, I really hate to see when someone quotes the entire OP when replaying to the thread starter. I know what I wrote, you don't have to quote me. Especially not for a thank you or this is very helpful type of posts. There is no reason one should do that, but if you do, at least remove the images from the quoted OP.


Not using punctuation
I    am   allergic when isee  people post  like  this. I also hate to see an empty space before a punctuation mark . 


Some beginners also often don't know how to trim long posts in quotes so they have to quote whole posts just to add some unimportant words.
We also shouldn't forget that the forum isn't well suited when posting from a phone. Imagine having to remove big parts of a post just to quote a few sentences on a phone. Instead, they just do what is easier. That's still not a reason and justification of why you should do it.
sr. member
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Thank you for this simple and helpful post, which will definitely be a great help for beginners like me.

The pointers shared would be a great help to understand, how one can post the article in the forum.

I believe the shared article is to help the beginners and also keep them updated about do’s and don’ts to be followed from their end.
legendary
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Rank means nothing, especially if we know that these are members from the old era before the merit system - and then every shitposter could become Legendary with regular posting. The fact that some of them even today act as total beginners speaks for itself.

About replying posts in a row. If some was mentioned, and he quotes that particular reply he was mentioned and reply to it and immediately drop a fresh reply below the first, is it against the rule?

If you reply to multiple posts then it makes sense to multi-quote them and reply in one post. Replying to each post individually in a row is against the rules.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.



There are also features/icons in the forum that we can see directly above as we are typing a new post/thread, all of that can also be employed to make our post look more beautiful, for example just the way @Lucius used the underline feature/icon in this post to separate the two posts he quoted, i am not saying users should use them always or abuse them, but if employed skillfully, it would make your posts aesthetically pleasing to read.

It's no secret that it's not all in the content (which is of course the most important), but in the way that content is presented, and that's something that many appreciate when reading posts. However, this is something that can be learned over time, and few can boast that they were at a high level from the beginning in terms of quality of content and presentation.
legendary
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About using the quote option:

One day as I was scouting the forum, I saw a Hero member who quoted an Op that is as long as a full article and just replied with two lines sentence. I felt disappointed that it came from a Hero member and not a newbie. According to Op, the reason they quote long posts to reply is to make their posts appear long. I consider this frivolous because everyone reading posts know the difference between a post and a quoted post.

About replying posts in a row. If some was mentioned, and he quotes that particular reply he was mentioned and reply to it and immediately drop a fresh reply below the first, is it against the rule?
legendary
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Merit: 1225
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I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".
I'm beginning to dread that too, though I don't know how that came to be or why it's like that. In my clime, using that sir appellation is a way of showing respect. However, here, I've read some veterans argue that it's disrespectful to address one like that. I think I picked that and have stopped addressing people that way across all social media. However, if I know the person I'm addressing is truly older than I am, I use "Sir"regardless. Again, there's the use of "they, their or them" in addressing a single person when we don't know "their" sex. It's a safe way to play than using a she or he and then getting it wrong. Semantically, that contradicts a basic law of English Concord. Things we learn on social media are very astonishing, honestly.
legendary
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I remember early discussions that a lot of people didn't like being called "Sir" often. It may be normal for the word to be spelled infrequently, but some beginners tend to overdo it, thereby eliciting inappropriate attitudes such as pity.

I would rather communicate with a person who feels equal, rather than belittling himself, by frequently addressing "Sir".
full member
Activity: 952
Merit: 105
Posting multiple posts in a row.

This annoys me a lot seeing one person posting repeatedly and in some
case not even making a significant point at the end, I don't know if they're
doing it in order to bump thread to the top.
When someone comes in the forum and instead of reading what is going on in the forum - they ask the question. lol
Also most of the newbie want to get rich the moment they join in as a member. They should know good things take time and patience.
hero member
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Posting multiple posts in a row.

This annoys me a lot seeing one person posting repeatedly and in some
case not even making a significant point at the end, I don't know if they're
doing it in order to bump thread to the top.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1225
Once a man, twice a child!
What about the ones who write in all caps simply because they think it shows emphasis. I don't even bother to read such posts nowadays.


The problem is that some members abuse this option to make their posts look longer and more meaningful, when in fact they make them completely uninteresting.
I don't understand how making a block quote would make someone's posts look longer when in actual fact character and word counts begin with the said user's comment and not from the quoted. Not only is block quote uninteresting to read, it's confusing going through who said what and what from the post, especially ones that involve up to four yolked quotes.
legendary
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OP is right before I am quoting the whole thread for my response cause I didnt know how to do the per kine quote when I was a newbie but literally changed it now. But Ive still see some older members doing so, so better to learn on how to quote properly. It also helps on direct to the point answer when responsing.
legendary
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Some users actually overlook posting etiquettes, they are prolly thinking it doesn't matter, and what should be important is the content of ones post, yes, the content is what is most important, but you have to make it possible for other users to read and appreciate what it is that you have written, you can't just quote in an unreadable way and cluster all of your words and expect people to read it, i am pretty sure they would rather just skip, notwithstanding how good what it is you have written is.

There are also features/icons in the forum that we can see directly above as we are typing a new post/thread, all of that can also be employed to make our post look more beautiful, for example just the way @Lucius used the underline feature/icon in this post to separate the two posts he quoted, i am not saying users should use them always or abuse them, but if employed skillfully, it would make your posts aesthetically pleasing to read.

Finally as regards how to quote properly, users can take a look at this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tips-to-avoid-pyramid-quotes-for-newbies-3749076
legendary
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It also annoys me when a newbie in his first forum post asks how he can make money on this forum or start explaining his difficult financial situation.

I am not at all surprised by such posts, because in some parts of the world this forum is nothing but a platform for making money. People just hear from someone that they have made some money here, and I can say that I understand their behavior because in some parts of the world people live very hard and try to get out of poverty in all possible ways.



What I don't like is seeing oversized images when we know that there's a code for that which you can change the size regarding the desired size of image.

Some members know, but I'm sure there are a lot of those who don't, so I hope that this thread will be helpful to some. We cannot blame those who do not know, but we can blame those who know and are warned but continue to behave in the same way.
hero member
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I don't mind that much to a wall of text or a wall of text without making it into paragraphs. What I don't like is seeing oversized images when we know that there's a code for that which you can change the size regarding the desired size of image. I have seen the thread about how to post constructively and more in this board but never see someone who do it right away.
full member
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Another annoying things that beginners doing for a long time in this forum and that is they are used to sharing experiences in this forum by creating a topic.But they actually have not much experience about crypto but they need to be focused so that they can easily rank up their accounts by receiving merits. I will suggest to all the beginners, first you know properly from the senior members and learn from then how to make quality topics.
hero member
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I like it most when newbie members give advice on how to write quality forum posts or how to progress on the forum  Grin
There seem to be a lot of newbie members who like to give advice that they themselves don’t yet know how to practice.
It also annoys me when a newbie in his first forum post asks how he can make money on this forum or start explaining his difficult financial situation.
In such cases, the option of ''ignore'' is sometimes the best choice  Grin

They just made those advice maybe just to get merit but in reality on what they say they didn't really apply those to theirselves since majority of newbies now want to short cut things because what's truly got in their head is to earn merit then rank up to earn money from whatever they like to join and also on signature campaigns which is popular in this forum.
legendary
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I like it most when newbie members give advice on how to write quality forum posts or how to progress on the forum  Grin
There seem to be a lot of newbie members who like to give advice that they themselves don’t yet know how to practice.
It also annoys me when a newbie in his first forum post asks how he can make money on this forum or start explaining his difficult financial situation.
In such cases, the option of ''ignore'' is sometimes the best choice  Grin
legendary
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Not using punctuation

I agree with that, but spelling and punctuation are still another category that we can hardly influence, especially if we take into account that a good part of the members come from a non-English speaking area. It is quite easy to show someone how to reduce the image to an appropriate size or how to properly quote post, while not using punctuation is not something we can influence.



When I saw the title I thought I would see something about necroposts.

It has happened to me several times, but everyone can have their moment of inattention and overlook the date - it is important that this does not happen often Wink



Can I add "not using the search option before posting" to the mix?"
Reading through the same update on trending issues twice or having to read through a similar kind of post about merits, how to get them or some other generic stuff can be off puting to most.

In the context of what @Fivestar4everMVP mentioned in his post, I agree that everyone should use the search option of the forum or even some search engines outside the forum (because it can be a much faster way to search). However, I would point out that in some cases it is better to open a new thread than to bump a couple of years old - although of course it depends on whether someone got an answer to their question by reading an old thread, or still needs extra help.

Using the search option is far better applicable to current topics that are duplicated in different boards - just look at the Bitcoin discussion and Economics and you will understand what I am talking about.


Allow me to add giving merit advice when they haven’t gotten any

This is an interesting thing and I admit that it is a bit strange that someone who has just come to the forum gives advice on how to get merits - but people use all sorts of tactics in an effort to get it.



An interesting post history combo, bounty section and wall observer thread. That guy is probably sharing images there as a way to fish the merit but seems like he is not particulary successful so far.

He is the last in a series that has been annoying WO members lately, one has been permabanned (he has a thread in Meta), and some have calmed down a bit at the moment because they realized that instead of merits there are other "awards".

I always thought its more of a laziness issue and lack of posting etiquette rather than an attempt for post to look more "substantial".

Laziness and ignorance of how to properly use quote are certainly part of it, but a lot of those who participate in signature campaigns obviously think that their one or two line posts look better if they add a wall of text in front of them.



I will answer some other posts in the next post, because no matter how hard I tried to make the post readable - too long posts are not something that most people appreciate Wink
hero member
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Bitcointalk is one forum on the internet that gets over 2 to 3 million monthly visits with an estimate of over 1 thousand daily registered users. So as long as we are getting new users on the forum every blessed day, mistakes like these are bound to occur, because there is no how you could lecture them all at the same time.
However, I just check the post history you shared and the image was way too large because I'm using a mobile phone and it covered my whole screen with absolutely no vital meaning as its caption. But that's why we have the "Rules and conditions" for each subsection of the forum, but most newbies dont use to read it before commenting. Because if all newbies could use their very first 3 to 4 months to studying how the forum works and how to do certain things in the forum (i.e how to post and resize an image, quote properly, and know the right board to post a thread), there will be no much work for moderators

full member
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Posting images to the forum

Code:
[img width=200]your link here[/img]


Yes posting the image stretches the thread and its stretched even more when people start quoting it. You have given the right direction that if someone has to post the image then post it by limiting the size of the image. Those who reply must remove the image from quote so that nothing annoying happens.
hero member
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Aside of those 3 points, I would like to add:

Repeating someone answer without add any value

I think this is the most problem I've seen in this forum when someone already answered correctly, but after a hour, you will see the other 3-5 users are just repeating the correct answer without adding any value or point. They're just want to fulfill their quota campaign with a low effort, so they can earn easy money. I don't know how to solve this problem, because moderators didn't want to delete those posts even I have reported them.
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