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legendary
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October 28, 2019, 09:09:25 AM
#45
wwzsocki, part of discussions about merits in this thread is a little bit OT, but I think most of us agree that merits do not necessarily have to show how valuable someone is to this forum. Considering the huge number of alt accounts, sales and purchases of merit on and off the forum, a user with only 100 merit honestly earned may be more useful to this forum than someone who has 2 or 3 times more unfairly acquired.

Let's get back to the topic, does anyone think that any user who has returned to the forum just for the reason to post for money is good user? I do not want to generalize things, some of the users stated in OP publicly say that the reasons for their absence from the forum were personal, and I can accept that this can be the truth. Let's see how many of them will remain active when/after the campaign in question is over.
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1708
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October 28, 2019, 08:21:15 AM
#44
When a thread is not too long, like this one, I like to read all posts before commenting, especially when I see many usernames I can recognize.

I spotted something that nobody commented before, even involved members, so I thought it is worth a mention.

...I disagree that merits are easy to earn though and its as simple as making 50 quality posts to get 50 merits. If that was true we would see a lot more members that have ranked up but that is not true. We are seeing members who have been here a long time make hundreds of posts every month and not earn a single merit.

I think you haven't understood Lucius correctly, pease read one more time:

...What to do when you see some one-line post completely irrelevant get 30 or 50 merits, and some others (including me) need to post maybe 50 quality posts to get the same number of merits...

In my opinion, there is no disagreement and both of you are talking about this same.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 838
October 28, 2019, 06:27:00 AM
#43
I was not awakened by Yobit but I think that I have not yet increased my posting intensity after joining Cryptotalk campaign. Moreover, I do think my post has acceptable good quality.

OP made good works to point out the fact that there are good users joined Cryptotalk campaign, but just a minor part of total participants -- that is what I agree.
member
Activity: 66
Merit: 18
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October 28, 2019, 06:13:47 AM
#42
I guess that’s a way of saying these campaigns has helped improve the the pace of the BTT community development. These old users coming back to participate in platform discussions and also having earned merit means they must have made some important contributions to the platform.
That’s great. Are there other ways or innovative features on the platform that could be used to increase community members participation? Although this might not be the best thread to say this, but I think this should also be discussed.
hero member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 619
October 27, 2019, 05:13:55 AM
#41
Didn't see this one earlier. Thanks mate for some words of appreciation. I think Yobit has certainly provided people opportunity yo contribute to this forum too I don't know about how most of users are using this campaign but certainly some are definitely trying to contribute and earn from the campaign too at the same time and now I think even if the campaign ends I will try to be regular to the forum no matter what.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 596
October 23, 2019, 05:41:26 PM
#40
I am sorry if I have upset you.
Not at all, mate...  Smiley

I don't have any problem with the thread you have created and I haven't said anything related to that.

Sometimes, truth is buried so silently that no one even knows about it unless it is told otherwise. This is why I wrote something about the reason of being not posting the last few months.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 683
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October 23, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
#39
Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?
The Merit summary in your profile is for exactly 120 days. It's quite easy to add them up, if it can help any campaign I'll be happy to create a weekly file in CSV or any other format for this.

I am totally aware of that, thanks anyway.

Seeing those added up isn´t bad for the start but it just gives a rough estimate rather than an exact number, what might be fine for a first impression though.

But latest when it comes to applying for a Campaign where the campaign manager is asking for the number of merits earned in the past 120 days, an hour long counting-marathon steps in (at least for those that have something to count and don´t know about ddmrddmr´s tool (and how to use it)).



I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley
The forum doesn't need money, so paying won't get you features. But there's a BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension already.

Oh nice, didn´t know about it yet - thank you!
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
October 23, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
#38
Inactive; and then woke up for the sake of CryptoTalk Signature Campaign is a false statement against me I believe (for those who think this way).
Since 24th July (the day I stopped posting) to 5th Oct (the day I joined CryptoTalk Campaign), in between there were other campaigns launched where I haven't applied.[1]
I actually took a break from posting after all those Livecoin dramas, but I was active daily in the forum as read-only mode. Due to the Livecoin drama, I also got blacklisted which made me very upset.

I got blacklisted because I just posted "Reserved" in Livecoin's second phase campaign. I even didn't write my details in the application. The reason why I posted reserve because I have seen the accuser withdrawn his support from the flag and I thought the case was settled, but no, later I've known that it was not settled and the accuser supported the flag again. Trying to make a short post, so I won't be writing the whole drama and points again here. Anyway, later I forgot to delete that reserved post and got blacklisted. I haven't contacted yahoo or wrote anything about it anywhere to explain my situation to get whitelisted again because I thought this will lead to arguments and that shitty thing counter the counter process which I hate very much.

I'd have not joined Yobit's campaign if I were to wear the Yobit signature, I joined because it's CryptoTalk.

If the signature campaign is all that mattered to me from the beginning then maybe I'd be the one with most post counts and reached maximum post limits all the time in all campaigns I join(ed).

Sorry for this long post and sorry if said anything wrong. No offense! Smiley


[1] Blacklist made me upset and that's why I haven't applied or worked on it to get whitelisted...

Hi mate.
I am sorry if I have upset you.

The purpose of creating this thread was introducing  good users of Crytotalk signature campaign which is mentioned in the subject. I have called these users those who are able to join other signature campaigns too, users who are tying to be helpful to forum and make constructive posts. I said that these users will remain in the forum after Cryptotalk campaigns ends.
I said there are some users who post only for money and I called these users are different form them.
I focused on the merits these users were able to earn in a short time.
I didn't make this topic to accuse someone. I made it to call you a good user.
Again, I am sorry if you didn't like the topic.
legendary
Activity: 3290
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October 23, 2019, 05:08:53 PM
#37
Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?
The Merit summary in your profile is for exactly 120 days. It's quite easy to add them up, if it can help any campaign I'll be happy to create a weekly file in CSV or any other format for this.

I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley
The forum doesn't need money, so paying won't get you features. But there's a BPIP.org Chrome & FireFox Extension already.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 683
Love is the answer
October 23, 2019, 05:02:55 PM
#36
Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content.

Fully agree here - is there any option to check for "Merits earned in the last 120 days" other than ddmrddmr´s lovely tool?

I guess it would be a very interesting feature to either
A) solely have "Merits earned in the last 120 days" next to the user-info´s and/or
B) the number of total merits earned
rather than (or additional to) total number of merits

f.e. as it stands I can see user Efialtis has a 130 merits:



That means he ...

A) has earned 30 (started from 100) or
B) has earned 120 (started from 10) or
C) has earned 129 (started from 1) or
D) has earned them all

Well now I know that he just joined in May 2019 and earned 129 of those 130 merits, but without checking BPIP or ddmrddmr´s tool there is no chance to recognize his quality on the first glance.


I like BPIP but its some extra-clicks so to me this would be a nice feature on Bitcointalk, maybe we can collect some funds and pay for that feature!? Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 596
October 23, 2019, 06:40:20 AM
#35
Inactive; and then woke up for the sake of CryptoTalk Signature Campaign is a false statement against me I believe (for those who think this way).
Since 24th July (the day I stopped posting) to 5th Oct (the day I joined CryptoTalk Campaign), in between there were other campaigns launched where I haven't applied.[1]
I actually took a break from posting after all those Livecoin dramas, but I was active daily in the forum as read-only mode. Due to the Livecoin drama, I also got blacklisted which made me very upset.

I got blacklisted because I just posted "Reserved" in Livecoin's second phase campaign. I even didn't write my details in the application. The reason why I posted reserve because I have seen the accuser withdrawn his support from the flag and I thought the case was settled, but no, later I've known that it was not settled and the accuser supported the flag again. Trying to make a short post, so I won't be writing the whole drama and points again here. Anyway, later I forgot to delete that reserved post and got blacklisted. I haven't contacted yahoo or wrote anything about it anywhere to explain my situation to get whitelisted again because I thought this will lead to arguments and that shitty thing counter the counter process which I hate very much.

I'd have not joined Yobit's campaign if I were to wear the Yobit signature, I joined because it's CryptoTalk.

If the signature campaign is all that mattered to me from the beginning then maybe I'd be the one with most post counts and reached maximum post limits all the time in all campaigns I join(ed).

Sorry for this long post and sorry if said anything wrong. No offense! Smiley


[1] Blacklist made me upset and that's why I haven't applied or worked on it to get whitelisted...
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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October 23, 2019, 05:03:44 AM
#34
Just two days back;
Update: limit from now is only 10 posts / day
That explains why so many users make exactly 10 posts per day.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
October 23, 2019, 03:55:43 AM
#33
Right now there are only 3 and LoyceV is one of them, the other two are in the CT campaign.
Maybe LoyceV can help you with some archived stats if he has such a thing,
I have the data, but don't think it's worth the effort to search through it. If anyone's interested, they can make weekly archives of http://loyce.club/active/7d.html.
legendary
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October 23, 2019, 03:24:15 AM
#32
I wonder that how many eligible participants of Cryptotalk's campaign made 20 posts on daily over continuous days (or nearly 20 posts) without being banned or kicked out by yahoo62278?

Two weeks ago there were 4 people who managed to do that, don't remember who they were so can't check if they got banned.

...there are only 5 people who have managed to get over 140posts in the last seven days. And I lost another bet, not all five of them are in the cryptotalk campaign...damn, I'm really bad at those.

Right now there are only 3 and LoyceV is one of them, the other two are in the CT campaign.
Maybe LoyceV can help you with some archived stats if he has such a thing, I assume an AI is used to back-up everything.  Grin

before the new daily limitation came (at 10).

When did this happen? I was away for almost five days and didn't bother to check those topics in the few minutes I had to spare.

legendary
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October 22, 2019, 11:36:55 PM
#31
Having the same circumstances as DiamondCardz

I didn’t come back because of Yobit, though, I came back and just happened to see its signature campaign.
I stop for almost 8 months because of personal problems that caused me anxiety, Part of the reason is the market fall that caused me to be broke up, That's why I decided to take a rest on cryptocurrency and start to build up my confidence to trade again.

I've regained my trust in the market after the pump. That's the start I start on spectating on cryptocurrency again.

legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1018
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October 22, 2019, 03:44:12 PM
#30
I wonder that how many eligible participants of Cryptotalk's campaign made 20 posts on daily over continuous days (or nearly 20 posts) without being banned or kicked out by yahoo62278?

From what OP raised, I guess there are not many of them were eligible with 20 posts during days in-a-row, before the new daily limitation came (at 10).
If there are figures to prove this theory, I think it will be good that good posters who joined Cryptotalk actually maintained their good posts with their self-limitations on max posts they usually made daily. It is understandable if their total daily posts after joining Cryptotalk increased a little bit, but it is fine if it does not rocket.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1376
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October 22, 2019, 03:17:31 PM
#29
I see some good members in Cryptotalk campaign. But when there are so many spammers with Cryptotalk signature, these good members just become less visible. I noticed that sometimes I just skip posts written by Cryptotalk participants and no matter who exactly wrote it, I just have feeling that there won't be anything wortwhile to read.
I don't want to talk about these users, but more in general - if member was inactive before Cryptotalk campaign, probably it means that they are here just for money because they aren't motivated to post without paid signature. But hell, if they are good members of community and making contributions, I don't care about it.
legendary
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Merit: 1727
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October 22, 2019, 03:13:24 PM
#28
@Deathwing was a big gain for us.
sr. member
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October 22, 2019, 03:07:58 PM
#27
Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content.
I agree merit is one of the greatest proof that a forum member is a good quality poster.
People wouldn't just simple give out merit unless they find your post helpfull and it is a quality post so having a high merit shows that you are indeed a good contributor to the forum (unless it is from cheating like buying merits).
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1329
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October 22, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
#26
As Welsh has mentioned previously, merit is one of the most important factors to take into account when trying to comprehend whether an account is trustable, reputable, sharing informative posts etc.

Seems you misunderstood @Welsh statement as he never meant merit should be used as a factor for behaviors not relating to the post habbit. Trusting someone just because of their earned merit is stupidity as it might backfired badly like we have recorded in the past with loan defaulters/scammers. Trustability and reputation should be separated from merit earned instead the general activity of the user on the forum is a better criteria.

Although merit earned doesn't tell you all about a users contributions to the forum, it gives you an idea on how visible the contributions of that user has been.

"merit is one of the most important factors" I wanted to somewhat put emphasis on this part only. As Welsh has said "Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality." which I definitely agree on. While merit is not the sole factor to decide whether a person is trustworthy or not, it is definitely a crucial factor in comparison to either when the user has registered or their post account. In my opinion, the only thing that outvalues the merit in this context is the trust.
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