You shouldn't believe everything that comes out. Maybe Satoshi is trying to mislead everyone so that it will be harder to find out who he/she/they are.
I am completely fine with that. Look at what happened to all the people that came out to claim that they are Satoshi. Governments will be after them.
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Let's say his married with a North American person and he dictated to her {or the other way around}? We could also consider that it was a group of
people with one individual responsible for the communication. So you just managed to possibly identify one person from the group. There were a bunch
of analysis done on his writing and when it was done, and they came up with nothing. Let it go...
people with one individual responsible for the communication. So you just managed to possibly identify one person from the group. There were a bunch
of analysis done on his writing and when it was done, and they came up with nothing. Let it go...
Those are some nice indicators to determine the kind of English Satoshi speaks. But another question is aren't whitepapers usually approved or edited by some editors? And also, I'd like to know even if we did know he was North American, and did try to triangulate his location it still would be hard to filter it further.
Anyone nowadays can speak and write proper English without actually coming from an country where they have English has their primary language.
It doesn't really matter to me anymore who Satoshi is, yes I am curious but I think it's best for bitcoin and Satoshi to stay anonymous.
It doesn't really matter to me anymore who Satoshi is, yes I am curious but I think it's best for bitcoin and Satoshi to stay anonymous.
One thing that may need to be considered is that Satoshi Nakamoto may not have even been formally educated. He may have been self taught...or learned in a monastery...or spent time in exile reading and coding. That would explain the informal approach he took to programming and it would explain his isolationism.
I am confused, what is the point of all this?
That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that 
Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.
Generally if someone excels in computers and maths they do poorly in English writing skills because they spent most of their time learning programming. Most medical doctors spend at the minimum seven years doing medical training, but most of them write in illegible handwriting on prescriptions. Satoshi is a genius programmer, but said his writing skills weren't as good as his programming skills. He's probably awful at spelling, and used the default US spell checker in his browser.
Your post still makes me think about these teenagers referring to Kurt Cobain as one of the greatest guitar players of all time, though. There's nothing more wrong than that. Technically speaking the guy wasn't properly speaking nowhere but really, he wasn't so great. But he had a genius for song writing, though. He was truly a master at that.
All this to say that these things are generally not connected. Mastering a means of expression doesn't make you creative, and inversely, being creative doesn't make you a technical master.
Besides, I've found that non-English speaking programmers usually had a pretty good written English, on average. This has to do with the fact that almost all the relevant information regarding computing is in English and so they read English on a regular basis. It's the same for chemists, physicists, doctors, and a lot of other specialists. Besides, if they do researches, they usually like to publish their papers in English, regardless of their native language, because it brings the potential audience to higher summits.
(And also, doctors write badly on purpose, so that average people can't read what is prescribed
). That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that
Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.
Generally if someone excels in computers and maths they do poorly in English writing skills because they spent most of their time learning programming. Most medical doctors spend at the minimum seven years doing medical training, but most of them write in illegible handwriting on prescriptions. Satoshi is a genius programmer, but said his writing skills weren't as good as his programming skills. He's probably awful at spelling, and used the default US spell checker in his browser.
I respect ur findings but this is not conclusive.He might be a UK born but resides in some other country.
Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.
Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.
Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.
lol
get some shrimp on the barbie, its cold here in Ireland 
. Anyway, my point is that anyone who learned English as a second language to a reasonable level of proficiency could write like a native from whichever region they like. Learning how to speak with a proper regional accent is harder in my view, but the writing part can easily be fulfilled.
Satoshi is highly proficient in English but that doesn't make him an English speaker.
Why nobody call him to show up and this whole mystery will be gone.
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?
If he/she could prove why is Satoshi (not this kind of stupid proofs we see around here everyday, but REAL proof), then the mystery would be solved.
He or she is loosing a revolutionary potential his/hers words would have in the financial market as a whole.
Why nobody call him to show up and this whole mystery will be gone.
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?
We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.
The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
Edit...
From bitcoin.pdf at bitcoin. org
"realizes" — English (UK) version — "realises"
"characterized"— English (UK) version — "characterised"
'"tape",' — English (UK) version — "tape,"
"we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed" - use of we (group of people)
"we propose begins with a timestamp server" - use of we (group of people)
"we will need to use a proof-of-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6]," - use of we (group of people)
"we don't care about later attempts to double-spend" - use of we (group of people)
"We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures." - use of we (group of people)
We did not find any evidence of the letter I; The final references on the white paper suggests someone else "we, " was involved in the research and documentation of this paper — at least someone that seems to be from UK.
The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
Edit...
if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.
From bitcoin.pdf at bitcoin. org
"realizes" — English (UK) version — "realises"
"characterized"— English (UK) version — "characterised"
'"tape",' — English (UK) version — "tape,"
"we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed" - use of we (group of people)
"we propose begins with a timestamp server" - use of we (group of people)
"we will need to use a proof-of-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6]," - use of we (group of people)
"we don't care about later attempts to double-spend" - use of we (group of people)
"We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures." - use of we (group of people)
We did not find any evidence of the letter I; The final references on the white paper suggests someone else "we, " was involved in the research and documentation of this paper — at least someone that seems to be from UK.
That's BS. In 99,9% of academic papers, the author uses the pronomn we when referring to him or herself. It's a way to show respect both to colleagues and professors. But it doesn't mean it was written by more than one person.
I personally believe it was made by a group, but I don't need this fragile "facts" to support that idea.
We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.
The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
im from the UK too and in my head, i spell realised with an S.. but this irritating web browser puts a red line under the word forcing me to use a Z instead of an S.The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.
so analysing forum posts fails, if you dont take the american spell checker defaulted into the browser into context
(i avoided auto-correct, purely to make a point)
This is a great point. Edits have been made.
We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.
The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
im from the UK too and in my head, i spell realised with an S.. but this irritating web browser puts a red line under the word forcing me to use a Z instead of an S.The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.
We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.
'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"
I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.
if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.
so analysing forum posts fails, if you dont take the american spell checker defaulted into the browser into context
(i avoided auto-correct, purely to make a point)
I don't think the way of writing is the enough evidence to prove someone is from North America. It can be an intentional change to hide the actual identity.
But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?
But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?
Agreed, it is better if the identity of satoshi remains unknown
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Well it is one way to know the language setting put on the Windows PC
By default it looks like Satoshi ran a UK version of spellcheck and presumably the same language pack.
(Of course that's if he was using windows he-he)
By default it looks like Satoshi ran a UK version of spellcheck and presumably the same language pack.
(Of course that's if he was using windows he-he)
Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.
Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.
Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.
lol
get some shrimp on the barbie, its cold here in Ireland 
I don't think the way of writing is the enough evidence to prove someone is from North America. It can be an intentional change to hide the actual identity.
But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?
But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?
Seem like we get deeper and deeper just to find out who he really is.
I believe is still here and for he development of bitcoin i think finding him can be concider important. I truley think finding him its an exciting game
But why dont we jsut assume he doesn't use any VPN or Tor and lets ask about checking his IP.
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