Anyone that follows an influencer and listens to them blindly are plain stupid. Do you really think they are interested in bitcoin or any crypto currencies? Nope. They just tweet about them to get some attention. They know nothing about crypto currencies. They are ready to do anything. Like you said, the whole thing was staged and the influencer did it just for the money to promote Chainlink which is probably a shitcoin. They don't even care if it is a shitcoin or a scam coin. After everyone gets scammed, the influencer will start acting in such a way that they got scammed too and try to gain sympathy.
It is the perfect game if you ask me, if the guy makes you earn money then he can claim that he has helped thousands of people to make money and gain credibility in this way but if his predictions fail then he can claim he was deceived as well and gain sympathy and maintain his reputation, so no matter what happens such a person never losses and he could always delete the videos or posts about the predictions he got wrong and seem way more accurate than what he really is. 
Topic: Some Influencers Are Not Helping (Read 897 times)
Anyone that follows an influencer and listens to them blindly are plain stupid. Do you really think they are interested in bitcoin or any crypto currencies? Nope. They just tweet about them to get some attention. They know nothing about crypto currencies. They are ready to do anything. Like you said, the whole thing was staged and the influencer did it just for the money to promote Chainlink which is probably a shitcoin. They don't even care if it is a shitcoin or a scam coin. After everyone gets scammed, the influencer will start acting in such a way that they got scammed too and try to gain sympathy.
Actually, influencers are powerful in trading signals or pump and dump groups. But for the cryptocurrency as a whole, I don't want influencers to dominate the market by their calls. Most of the time, these people could manipulate a crypto and the people who followed them knowing that their population is huge, could actually act like a whale to determine the price of the crypto. Those, that hodl and believe to the crypto in a long term might lose their investment once the crypto was dumped.
So for me, I highly suggest that we can either join a community if we are a trader, or to stick with bitcoin for long term hodling.
It just shows how gullible some people are. This influencers doesn't even deserve to be called "influencers" if they don't really understand the product they are trying to endorse, they can stay in their own lane and not try to cover all the things in the world, but who am I to tell them not to accept money right. I may agree that some "influencers" are really responsible and aware of their platforms, there are still responsible influencers, those who understand and aware about the things that they are going to influence their huge followers. They do research first and try to see if the product is acceptable in their own beliefs. They don't just say yes because of the money. We really have to choose who we are following, we should not let fame and followers blind us.
Some Infulancer are only here for money in YouTube they only share a Signal on newsbasis if they provide 20 Signal in month and they will talk about only about 5 signal only which are pump but not talk about 15 Signal
Influencers are just after what they can get from others. They can influence you either good or not but most of the people they influence are those innocents and don't have knowledge about something they are talking about. Don't believe them because if they will teach you right then you will learn nothing to them. I don't believe on signals. Much better to learn from your experience and own strategy and understanding.
Anyone that follows an influencer and listens to them blindly are plain stupid. Do you really think they are interested in bitcoin or any crypto currencies? Nope. They just tweet about them to get some attention. They know nothing about crypto currencies. They are ready to do anything. Like you said, the whole thing was staged and the influencer did it just for the money to promote Chainlink which is probably a shitcoin. They don't even care if it is a shitcoin or a scam coin. After everyone gets scammed, the influencer will start acting in such a way that they got scammed too and try to gain sympathy.
Actually, influencers are powerful in trading signals or pump and dump groups. But for the cryptocurrency as a whole, I don't want influencers to dominate the market by their calls. Most of the time, these people could manipulate a crypto and the people who followed them knowing that their population is huge, could actually act like a whale to determine the price of the crypto. Those, that hodl and believe to the crypto in a long term might lose their investment once the crypto was dumped.
So for me, I highly suggest that we can either join a community if we are a trader, or to stick with bitcoin for long term hodling.
You have high expectations for an influence, which in fact is all about making money with promotions. Do not make big expectations on someone who is not competent in the field, the incidents you are talking about have often happened in various ways. Promotion is one of the easy moneymakers if you have popularity, there are even people who don't see the bad impact of what they are promoting, this is synonymous with jhon mcafee.
A lot of social media influencer these days and best is not too much have trust and have confidence in what they are promoting. When you have a big expectations more likely you will get disappointed in the end. That's true they exists for money so we should not rely on this. 
Anyone that follows an influencer and listens to them blindly are plain stupid. Do you really think they are interested in bitcoin or any crypto currencies? Nope. They just tweet about them to get some attention. They know nothing about crypto currencies. They are ready to do anything. Like you said, the whole thing was staged and the influencer did it just for the money to promote Chainlink which is probably a shitcoin. They don't even care if it is a shitcoin or a scam coin. After everyone gets scammed, the influencer will start acting in such a way that they got scammed too and try to gain sympathy.
I don't understand how people being a follower if someone from a very known personality says somethings.
"This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
I understand that for you it doesn't really make a lot of sense that people follow a person and the recommendations that he gives on the Internet, but believe me it happens a lot, and that is because those people simply do not have what they need to become a good trader or investor, and they know it, and instead of trying to learn those skills by themselves they have resigned themselves to try to follow the guide of someone else hoping that they will make money that way."This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
when you do make on your own.It might really be different when it comes to complexity specially talking about technicals but the presumptions on where the price is going will really be just common
in the end. Its up to you if you do listen up or not and as long you do profit on your own methods then i would consider it good.
You have high expectations for an influence, which in fact is all about making money with promotions.
More on money side, they are all aiming for that so what do you expect from them, you need to learn from your own understanding.
Do not make big expectations on someone who is not competent in the field, the incidents you are talking about have often happened in various ways.
Yeah right, you have to think more and not to lock yourself within your expectations, there are many possibilities to take place.
Promotion is one of the easy moneymakers if you have popularity, there are even people who don't see the bad impact of what they are promoting, this is synonymous with jhon mcafee.
Very popular and yet unreliable from this industries, this popular sucked so called influencer.
This Dave Portnoy figure was completely unknown to me until he tweeted about Bitcoin. It was a strange video of him ranting about what Bitcoin is and if he could mine it on the internet with some plastic hammer he held or something similar, (I don't even remember what I saw, it wasn't significant anyway). The continuation was strange though as in his next video Portnoy was asking the Winklevoss twins to visit him and explain Bitcoin and how it works. At some point, it was obvious that the whole thing was a staged ad that included affiliate promotions to Portnoy's 1,7 million twitter followers.
Not only the Winklevoss twins failed to present a decent case for Bitcoin, but the next day they've also proceeded with asking him to promote Chainlink, a controversial shitcoin when it was right on the top of a bubble. So Portnoy told his followers to buy an ERC20 token that was at the top of the pump 'n dump phase. Was this all random and happened spontaneously out of the Winklevoss pure love for alternative cryptocurrencies? Why ask him to talk about LINK anyway? It is looking carefully planned as well.
Now I don't blame Portnoy for this, he does not care about Bitcoin or his followers. I care about how ridiculous crypto twitter has become, how terrible all of this was handled and that three years after the whole shitcoin bubble phase we haven't learned a thing.
There are people on twitter that have Bitcoin bags and just want to shill them. I get it. Honestly, I wish I also wasn't strict and went all-in in March instead of buying the dip but small. Some people make sense and then there are some that just because they bought a tonn of random altcoins they unleash thousands of paid shills to promote them. The moment people that used to be just about Bitcoin started shilling DeFi, Chainlink, Band, Compound, yield farming, etc. it becomes very disappointing.
Bitcoin is not taken seriously this way. Gemini lost a lot of points by shilling a shitcoin, Binance is not respected outside the crypto space and Coinbase is close to becoming Bittrex with the number of shitcoins they've added.
It is their business model but perhaps they should understand that they should stop harming Bitcoin by reducing it to the same level as alts. At least exchanges should pretend that they are following the rules. Pump 'n dumps are not the rules. The financial world is observing these mistakes that keep happening for years. The CEO's of cryptocurrency exchanges are major crypto influencers and should be very careful about promoting anything else besides Bitcoin unless they want to damage both Bitcoin and their businesses. The damage to Bitcoin won't be permanent though as we've learned from the case of Mt.Gox.
Most of us remember the phrase from Wolf of Wall Street: "Once we've suckered them in, we unload the dog shit". I thought that the whole community and especially exchanges were trying to call themselves financial institutions and escape the quick cash-grab logic. Is this really what they want?
Not only the Winklevoss twins failed to present a decent case for Bitcoin, but the next day they've also proceeded with asking him to promote Chainlink, a controversial shitcoin when it was right on the top of a bubble. So Portnoy told his followers to buy an ERC20 token that was at the top of the pump 'n dump phase. Was this all random and happened spontaneously out of the Winklevoss pure love for alternative cryptocurrencies? Why ask him to talk about LINK anyway? It is looking carefully planned as well.
Now I don't blame Portnoy for this, he does not care about Bitcoin or his followers. I care about how ridiculous crypto twitter has become, how terrible all of this was handled and that three years after the whole shitcoin bubble phase we haven't learned a thing.
There are people on twitter that have Bitcoin bags and just want to shill them. I get it. Honestly, I wish I also wasn't strict and went all-in in March instead of buying the dip but small. Some people make sense and then there are some that just because they bought a tonn of random altcoins they unleash thousands of paid shills to promote them. The moment people that used to be just about Bitcoin started shilling DeFi, Chainlink, Band, Compound, yield farming, etc. it becomes very disappointing.
Bitcoin is not taken seriously this way. Gemini lost a lot of points by shilling a shitcoin, Binance is not respected outside the crypto space and Coinbase is close to becoming Bittrex with the number of shitcoins they've added.
It is their business model but perhaps they should understand that they should stop harming Bitcoin by reducing it to the same level as alts. At least exchanges should pretend that they are following the rules. Pump 'n dumps are not the rules. The financial world is observing these mistakes that keep happening for years. The CEO's of cryptocurrency exchanges are major crypto influencers and should be very careful about promoting anything else besides Bitcoin unless they want to damage both Bitcoin and their businesses. The damage to Bitcoin won't be permanent though as we've learned from the case of Mt.Gox.
Most of us remember the phrase from Wolf of Wall Street: "Once we've suckered them in, we unload the dog shit". I thought that the whole community and especially exchanges were trying to call themselves financial institutions and escape the quick cash-grab logic. Is this really what they want?
Not only the Winklevoss twins failed to present a decent case for Bitcoin, but the next day they've also proceeded with asking him to promote Chainlink, a controversial shitcoin when it was right on the top of a bubble. So Portnoy told his followers to buy an ERC20 token that was at the top of the pump 'n dump phase. Was this all random and happened spontaneously out of the Winklevoss pure love for alternative cryptocurrencies? Why ask him to talk about LINK anyway? It is looking carefully planned as well.
I also think that these actions are largely devoid of logic. Why talk about it publicly? Many pre-planned actions are very similar to each other in terms of mechanics and logic of actions. Everything is consistent and similar to previous promotions. A person who knows the topic deeply will not allow such scenarios when working.
This Dave Portnoy figure was completely unknown to me until he tweeted about Bitcoin. It was a strange video of him ranting about what Bitcoin is and if he could mine it on the internet with some plastic hammer he held or something similar, (I don't even remember what I saw, it wasn't significant anyway). The continuation was strange though as in his next video Portnoy was asking the Winklevoss twins to visit him and explain Bitcoin and how it works. At some point, it was obvious that the whole thing was a staged ad that included affiliate promotions to Portnoy's 1,7 million twitter followers.
Not only the Winklevoss twins failed to present a decent case for Bitcoin, but the next day they've also proceeded with asking him to promote Chainlink, a controversial shitcoin when it was right on the top of a bubble. So Portnoy told his followers to buy an ERC20 token that was at the top of the pump 'n dump phase. Was this all random and happened spontaneously out of the Winklevoss pure love for alternative cryptocurrencies? Why ask him to talk about LINK anyway? It is looking carefully planned as well.
Now I don't blame Portnoy for this, he does not care about Bitcoin or his followers. I care about how ridiculous crypto twitter has become, how terrible all of this was handled and that three years after the whole shitcoin bubble phase we haven't learned a thing.
There are people on twitter that have Bitcoin bags and just want to shill them. I get it. Honestly, I wish I also wasn't strict and went all-in in March instead of buying the dip but small. Some people make sense and then there are some that just because they bought a tonn of random altcoins they unleash thousands of paid shills to promote them. The moment people that used to be just about Bitcoin started shilling DeFi, Chainlink, Band, Compound, yield farming, etc. it becomes very disappointing.
Bitcoin is not taken seriously this way. Gemini lost a lot of points by shilling a shitcoin, Binance is not respected outside the crypto space and Coinbase is close to becoming Bittrex with the number of shitcoins they've added.
It is their business model but perhaps they should understand that they should stop harming Bitcoin by reducing it to the same level as alts. At least exchanges should pretend that they are following the rules. Pump 'n dumps are not the rules. The financial world is observing these mistakes that keep happening for years. The CEO's of cryptocurrency exchanges are major crypto influencers and should be very careful about promoting anything else besides Bitcoin unless they want to damage both Bitcoin and their businesses. The damage to Bitcoin won't be permanent though as we've learned from the case of Mt.Gox.
Most of us remember the phrase from Wolf of Wall Street: "Once we've suckered them in, we unload the dog shit". I thought that the whole community and especially exchanges were trying to call themselves financial institutions and escape the quick cash-grab logic. Is this really what they want?
Not only the Winklevoss twins failed to present a decent case for Bitcoin, but the next day they've also proceeded with asking him to promote Chainlink, a controversial shitcoin when it was right on the top of a bubble. So Portnoy told his followers to buy an ERC20 token that was at the top of the pump 'n dump phase. Was this all random and happened spontaneously out of the Winklevoss pure love for alternative cryptocurrencies? Why ask him to talk about LINK anyway? It is looking carefully planned as well.
Now I don't blame Portnoy for this, he does not care about Bitcoin or his followers. I care about how ridiculous crypto twitter has become, how terrible all of this was handled and that three years after the whole shitcoin bubble phase we haven't learned a thing.
There are people on twitter that have Bitcoin bags and just want to shill them. I get it. Honestly, I wish I also wasn't strict and went all-in in March instead of buying the dip but small. Some people make sense and then there are some that just because they bought a tonn of random altcoins they unleash thousands of paid shills to promote them. The moment people that used to be just about Bitcoin started shilling DeFi, Chainlink, Band, Compound, yield farming, etc. it becomes very disappointing.
Bitcoin is not taken seriously this way. Gemini lost a lot of points by shilling a shitcoin, Binance is not respected outside the crypto space and Coinbase is close to becoming Bittrex with the number of shitcoins they've added.
It is their business model but perhaps they should understand that they should stop harming Bitcoin by reducing it to the same level as alts. At least exchanges should pretend that they are following the rules. Pump 'n dumps are not the rules. The financial world is observing these mistakes that keep happening for years. The CEO's of cryptocurrency exchanges are major crypto influencers and should be very careful about promoting anything else besides Bitcoin unless they want to damage both Bitcoin and their businesses. The damage to Bitcoin won't be permanent though as we've learned from the case of Mt.Gox.
Most of us remember the phrase from Wolf of Wall Street: "Once we've suckered them in, we unload the dog shit". I thought that the whole community and especially exchanges were trying to call themselves financial institutions and escape the quick cash-grab logic. Is this really what they want?
It became clear to me from the very beginning of this story that these are all staged shots. I have a long experience in cryptocurrency has already developed a strong inner feeling when I lie from the screen of another " Specialist!". There even facial expressions and the way to talk and present the material very much gives out charlatans immediately.
I don't understand how people being a follower if someone from a very known personality says somethings.
"This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
I understand that for you it doesn't really make a lot of sense that people follow a person and the recommendations that he gives on the Internet, but believe me it happens a lot, and that is because those people simply do not have what they need to become a good trader or investor, and they know it, and instead of trying to learn those skills by themselves they have resigned themselves to try to follow the guide of someone else hoping that they will make money that way."This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
when you do make on your own.It might really be different when it comes to complexity specially talking about technicals but the presumptions on where the price is going will really be just common
in the end. Its up to you if you do listen up or not and as long you do profit on your own methods then i would consider it good.
I don't understand how people being a follower if someone from a very known personality says somethings.
"This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
I understand that for you it doesn't really make a lot of sense that people follow a person and the recommendations that he gives on the Internet, but believe me it happens a lot, and that is because those people simply do not have what they need to become a good trader or investor, and they know it, and instead of trying to learn those skills by themselves they have resigned themselves to try to follow the guide of someone else hoping that they will make money that way. "This project is good and profitable", "This project is promising" all have been glorified, but have we think that they are actually investing this or those projects? Not for sure, and probably because they are just being paid to attract people and to invest their project.
These called market manipulators are also the ones who never know about what they saying but just a scripted talk. They making money from it but not they think about how it affects the lives of the others and might give losses.
You have high expectations for an influence, which in fact is all about making money with promotions. Do not make big expectations on someone who is not competent in the field, the incidents you are talking about have often happened in various ways. Promotion is one of the easy moneymakers if you have popularity, there are even people who don't see the bad impact of what they are promoting, this is synonymous with jhon mcafee.
Some Infulancer are only here for money in YouTube they only share a Signal on newsbasis if they provide 20 Signal in month and they will talk about only about 5 signal only which are pump but not talk about 15 Signal
That sounds ridiculous. People are now using their name and popularity just to fooled innocent people and get money in front of them.TBH, I don't believe signals nor to trust a person who made that thing coz in the first place, why not use it for their own if that is true? There is no sense of keeping it for themselves coz they are not making money from unlike using it to convince people and getting paid. That's their intention.
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At the end of the day, all of this is purely money-making. So you don't put your full trust on these businessmen even if they appear to be siding with the revolutionary, with that which offers the biggest disruption to the traditional world.
For their mind they're making money from them not knowing they learned esson for their mistake.
There are scammer everywhere,why some are claiming they know it all in bitcoin, and scam many that lack to research deeply before investing their money.
Influencers are not helping nowadays in social media, some just there to influence people wrongly to invest their coins to where they will be the one enjoying the profits.
Influencers are not helping nowadays in social media, some just there to influence people wrongly to invest their coins to where they will be the one enjoying the profits.
I have seen this, especially in social media that some influencers are not really helping people and their viewers. They are just there to promote to encourage more to join them. They exists as promoter so basically , we have to be careful not to become a victim of this kind of people. It's our still responsibility to do some always research before buying some bags of crypto.
Most those influencers invite people to join with them, under the influencers and that person always says to people that they need to follow that influencer. It needs more to convince people to join in the crypto world because people now become smart to think if that influencer is really giving the real thing to them or just to give a fake. I think people now will search for more, so they will know by themselves, and they will decide later. That influencer will not give effect if they don't explain about the crypto to people, and people will not join in the crypto.Actually, crypto platforms are sponsoring those influencers to promote their platforms to gain users easily. So at first, if you see someone's doing it without deep knowledge on the field, don't trust them.
I'm not amazed in personalities that instantly appear out of nowhere then discussing a specific project. If they are maybe part of the team or been known user of crypto then they can possibly get more supporters but if not I don't think investors will give a dumb. When it comes to investing we should know what we are doing so we will not regret and blame it with others.
What you have to understand is that not everyone is here because they love Bitcoin or the Blockchain technology, majority of them are interested in the money, especially the whales. These whales are aware that they can pump the market with their money and that’s their plan, and since most of them are influencers they can invest lots of money and then convince their followers to invest and once people are in, they will dump it on them.
These rich dudes keep playing with people and most of them still don’t know by now that they are getting played. Bitcoin is now huge and they can’t manipulate it that much, so they are shifting to altcoins, those ones are very easy to manipulate as long as they have money.
These rich dudes keep playing with people and most of them still don’t know by now that they are getting played. Bitcoin is now huge and they can’t manipulate it that much, so they are shifting to altcoins, those ones are very easy to manipulate as long as they have money.
As an investor, why would you trust an influencer which has only a few knowledge about cryptocurrency? For me, it's a wrong thing to watch those kinds of shtty videos because, in the end, they will prolly promote those unknown platforms. If you're really interested in investments, it's better to trust someone that is already in the same field and invested a lot so he/she can share those experiences in the market.
Actually, crypto platforms are sponsoring those influencers to promote their platforms to gain users easily. So at first, if you see someone's doing it without deep knowledge on the field, don't trust them.
Actually, crypto platforms are sponsoring those influencers to promote their platforms to gain users easily. So at first, if you see someone's doing it without deep knowledge on the field, don't trust them.
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