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Success is not easy for anyone because it doesn't come by itself except with more consistent effort and planning before getting it. And when it comes to telling friends about the level of success and amount of income, I don't think there's any need to make it public because you remember the other risks that can also arise through a friend. Because you also don't know what intentions are in your friend's heart after he finds out about your income and your way to become successful.

So it's better not to share this with many people, even if they are your close friends, because other things that you don't want can also happen to your own business. And you can also provide other options such as the best suggestions that your friends can try instead of telling them about the income you have earned. So it's better for you to just run your business diligently and if someone asks you about how to be successful, just give them advice or a little knowledge that they can develop themselves.
  I know you are trying to be more private and discreet about your dealings, in there toughness there should be some joy when your friends win too, I know it good to remain discreet about your business to people but that doesn’t mean your should shut out family , they are friends that can be called family too as long as thier loyalty still remain unquestionable. Well not everyone likes to see other win, I don’t mind showing a friend how to fish. Who knows he might be the lucky charm that fish out the shark, that is something worth being proud of seeing that a friend is doing well in something you taught them. And if he’s truly loyal he will remember you and give you your credit and if he doesn’t, fine ! It life, the earlier you realize that having high expectations from a person will kill you the better you don’t expect much. So I don’t see any wrong on what the OP did showing is friend is ways of earnings.
  Unless you’re not proud of where you are earning from, or you gat yourself mixed up in some illegal activity and your proud about. We rise by lifting others, I guess this is not a new phrase. The help you show today might save you tomorrow and if not you, your children can benefit from them. Pitch them, if they show no interest in doing what you’re doing then fine, you can’t force a man to bake his own bread. But if they show interest, gladly show. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean you just accept strangers to your circle. It advisable you keep your circle small but sophisticated, you even make better when you work with your circle especially if y’all in the same line of business. It very nice when I see childhood friends become successful together.
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I keep wondering why some individuals feels like others success was just extremely easy, there’s no journey to success with out hard work, patience and consistency. Also it is never wrong to tell a friend how you earn, it is only meaningless that you tell a friend and then he turns it down feeling like your success flew from the clouds to you, so long as your income comes legally feel free to introduce your friends on the train to success.

Success is not easy for anyone because it doesn't come by itself except with more consistent effort and planning before getting it. And when it comes to telling friends about the level of success and amount of income, I don't think there's any need to make it public because you remember the other risks that can also arise through a friend. Because you also don't know what intentions are in your friend's heart after he finds out about your income and your way to become successful.

So it's better not to share this with many people, even if they are your close friends, because other things that you don't want can also happen to your own business. And you can also provide other options such as the best suggestions that your friends can try instead of telling them about the income you have earned. So it's better for you to just run your business diligently and if someone asks you about how to be successful, just give them advice or a little knowledge that they can develop themselves.
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You are a good friend to that your guy because, there are some people you will show or tell the source of your income they will begin to look for your down fall so that you will still remain in the Same level of poverty with them , I guess that your guy is not like that op.

Based on the way you explained the crypto investment to him and he has seen with his two eyes that you have made it through this crypto investment, nothing will stop him not to look for the capital to join long term investors so that he will test the benefits of long term hodling.
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I keep wondering why some individuals feels like others success was just extremely easy, there’s no journey to success with out hard work, patience and consistency. Also it is never wrong to tell a friend how you earn, it is only meaningless that you tell a friend and then he turns it down feeling like your success flew from the clouds to you, so long as your income comes legally feel free to introduce your friends on the train to success.
It is not that complex, your friends, especially those that have know you for most of your life, think of you as another person that is just like them, however if you were to suddenly obtain results that are out of this world on any specific domain of knowledge, instead of reevaluating the views they had of you, it is easier for them to assume that their views are correct and you got lucky.

So they want to know how you did it, so they can do the same and get the same results, and when they obviously fail, they will still think you got lucky and never admit their understanding of who you are has been wrong for a long time already.
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 I keep wondering why some individuals feels like others success was just extremely easy, there’s no journey to success with out hard work, patience and consistency. Also it is never wrong to tell a friend how you earn, it is only meaningless that you tell a friend and then he turns it down feeling like your success flew from the clouds to you, so long as your income comes legally feel free to introduce your friends on the train to success.
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Maybe people around us is observant about what we are doing and if they think you are smart and is not affected with the current negative events like inflation they will soon get into you and ask you to teach them what you are doing I mean investments. Some of them think it is way too easy to make money and you have a lot of it from this industry but the fact is that what we are doing in here might not work for them.

I was one of those huys that has been asked like this many times before and I even introduced them this forum so they may have gain more knowledge but it doesn't work well because they seems to feel boring and uninterested as time passes by. I shared my ideas to these people because I wanted to help them but yeah they told me that it is not their line of work.   Grin

Based on my observation, they only wanted something like a get rich quick thing in this world which is for me hard to find not unless you are lucky especially in this industry but that is their choice and decision so I had to respect that.
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I am kind of confused after reading the replies, here you are talking about investing in crypto currency or talking about making money via signature campaign that you said 6 months before making money?

Investment is not really suitable for anyone who wants to make quick money, they have to find a job that pays fixed salary.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.
I don't know if you have another Investment platform you want to introduce your friend to. This is because Bitcointalk shouldn't be seen as an investment platform or a major source of income. One could earn money through signature campaigns but these incomes are not certain or consistent which is why we should have other stable sources of income. Introducing the forum to people by telling them about earnings in signature campaigns I not a good strategy. You should showcase the forum as a learning platform first before any other thing

People are more interested in getting rich quickly and don't want to make any form of input to achieve their goals. They just want to sit down doing nothing while money flows into their account or wallets. They are not willing to learn a skill or study about an innovation, but they just want to start earning.

In some considerations, you are right, but when we drive into it deeply, we are going to understand that even though he shows his friend about bitcoin talk, it might be a potential benefit to the friend. The reason I say so is because some people like money in the simplest way. And they believe investing in crypto currency’s or trading it like the quick source, which I am sure if they start, they will know is not the simplest way but one of the hardest ways to get rich, most especially when it comes to trading because in trading you have a lot to learn. If his friend is ever ready, he might use this space of bitcoin talk to gain some free knowledge about all he needs to know about trading and investing in bitcoin and other crypto currencies.
 
Furthermore, if his friend is not ready, he should not even inform him that there is something that is called a signature campaign because if you show him that or explain that to him, he will end up just chasing the merit and trying with a tireless effort to see that he will also join, and in the process of putting in all this effort, he will end up doing what is not allowed in the forum because he won’t bother to learn but just to get what he is here for, so in some consideration, even though you want to inform your friend, you should give him some limitations in others for his benefits.
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If it's your friend, and not just your friend but a very close one, I don't know why you would withhold information that might actually help him. I mean, shouldn't we extend a helping hand to a very close friend who is obviously in need and who is scared of the economic prospect of the future?

i agree but sometimes boundaries should be made even between two close friends i also do not go around telling my friends about bitcoin i would prefer to keep this a secret is this selfish? maybe but in life it’s not that bad to be selfish sometimes i mean if things go wrong i wouldn’t want our friendship to end because of financial issues

I don't know; it might not be selfish not to tell everything to a friend, but if he/she's asking sincere questions, especially because he/she is having a hard time, it might be selfish if you're withholding information that might actually help him/her. I also don't go around telling my friends what I'm doing in life. But there was a time a friend asked me about Bitcoin. I answered him with what I know, without sharing whether I own some or not. OP talked about a very close friend.
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Easy to say but difficult to implement. For example, if there is an opportunity to run a business, for example trading other than crypto, being patient, it will make us fertile with terms and conditions, for example discipline and hard work.

It's not as easy as it says, but it's not as difficult as we imagine. When we have a strong determination and commitment to consistently do this, then it is not something impossible for us to achieve. Because patience and self-discipline are attitudes and behaviors that we can learn and train to become better. And make it a good habit that can help us to progress further than before. Because, “you can do that, because you are used to it.”

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that's how the events of a person's life revolve, all they see is the good things that happened in your life without knowing what you went through before you got the good things you have now. There are other people who always want easy money, they are the people who always rely on the help of others without suffering before they got the prize, but it will be our fault if we tolerate their behavior because how will they learn if we just spoon feed them in everything thing? They should also learn how to make money because nowadays, everything in the world requires money.

It is quite important to remember that each individual has a unique and different life journey, which may not be visible to other people. While some of them may appear to be successful without experiencing invisible obstacles, this does not mean that they are experiencing difficulties and facing challenges. Everyone has different lessons we can learn, and giving others the opportunity to learn and grow is quite important.
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Before we go into conclusion, it vital to be rational in thinking. this friend of yours is truly in need of help as the economic is becoming very dangerous to it's citizens, so what he was actually requesting was a source of income to cope the current situation and not a future solution to his problem, although if he dedicate his time to work hard in your area of business he would get a good result even before the estimated time. but the truth is what if he was going to be okay in less than that 6 months which he would work before he starts seeing the benefit so I had thought of it before he decided not to continue.

What im saying in essence is some people are not interested to work for so long to get the result, they only need an instant paying job like a salary job to cop with the economic situation. so we can not conclude that they want help but they are not serious to work.

Furthermore, some people are truly not ready to work but expect to reap where they didn't plant that is why most people go into commiting crime than find job.
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In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.


that's how the events of a person's life revolve, all they see is the good things that happened in your life without knowing what you went through before you got the good things you have now. There are other people who always want easy money, they are the people who always rely on the help of others without suffering before they got the prize, but it will be our fault if we tolerate their behavior because how will they learn if we just spoon feed them in everything thing? They should also learn how to make money because nowadays, everything in the world requires money.
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Everyone wants to earn profit but without patience and hard work we can never earn profit. Many people think that they will waste their time by not working but at the end of the day they will not get anything. Carry patience with you wherever you go. Impatient thoughts prevent you from reaching the pinnacle of success. Sometimes you may suffer from not getting the result or getting it late but don't give up. There are many people who go out and work to earn more money but it is the result of their patience.

Easy to say but difficult to implement. For example, if there is an opportunity to run a business, for example trading other than crypto, being patient, it will make us fertile with terms and conditions, for example discipline and hard work.

Of course, everyone can trade, but the most difficult thing is to remain on standby in the shop in conditions of large or small volumes of people coming to buy, whether that condition will last for days or even months. This is where the test of patience begins.

If there are already buyers, that's a sign that the door to fortune has opened. We just have to be patient and widen the route so that it flows faster and more abundantly, of course.
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If it's your friend, and not just your friend but a very close one, I don't know why you would withhold information that might actually help him. I mean, shouldn't we extend a helping hand to a very close friend who is obviously in need and who is scared of the economic prospect of the future?

i agree but sometimes boundaries should be made even between two close friends i also do not go around telling my friends about bitcoin i would prefer to keep this a secret is this selfish? maybe but in life it’s not that bad to be selfish sometimes i mean if things go wrong i wouldn’t want our friendship to end because of financial issues
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If it's your friend, and not just your friend but a very close one, I don't know why you would withhold information that might actually help him. I mean, shouldn't we extend a helping hand to a very close friend who is obviously in need and who is scared of the economic prospect of the future?

It seems to me this may not be envy. If you are having a hard time and you see your friend seemingly doing well, I guess it is natural that you would approach your friend and seek advice or inquire about what he's into as it might also help you in one way or another.
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Every person in the world is engaged in work for their livelihood. But some may earn enough, some may earn more than they need, and some may not even meet their needs. Those who don't use it in many ways to earn money may have faith issues but they all want to earn a living. There are many people who are stuck to achieve success in life they need the means but preparation is very personal. If they are mentally strong and the need is deep enough then I think they are ready for anything.
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I wouldn't introduce any friend or relative to an "investment platform". You don't know what are on their minds and they might suspect you that you've been doing something wrong because there's already a wrong connotation with that term.

Just be honest with them if you don't want to tell them your source of income because it's just the same by telling how much you're earning and that should be kept confidential.

If you can suggest some hustles on him, you better tell him what he's up to and what kind of skills he needs to have but just don't get him into investing. Because when money is involved and someone is struggling to make ends meet, when he's seeing a paper loss value of his investment, who's going to be the first one to get blamed? You, for introducing him to that.
As simple as that, when it comes to money talk, we need to keep it at a superficial level, so when someone asks you how are you doing economically? You simply answer that you are doing fine, and even if you are doing great, try to play it down a little bit, in order to avoid follow-up questions about how you are achieving those results.

Some people may be against this as you are lying to your friends, but I consider this to be a white lie, otherwise if you were to tell them the truth and told them exactly how you were making that much money, many of your friends on their rush to make money and replicate your results will lose a massive amount of money.
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Yep, I have some sympathy for the OP. No matter where we are, we can see the current economic situation and want to help those around us. But it is completely understandable that you are cautious and do not disclose your source of income.

I have never actively shared about money making opportunities, but if anyone talks and finds a new direction for their life, I am really open and want to understand their situation. Don't rush to give them financial investment opportunities, instead take advantage of the time to exploit jobs that can bring income, MMO is an easy choice. Learning about investing and only talking about money is a dangerous trap. The most basic thing is that without knowledge, we cannot do anything. I often describe "driving, you can't just sit in a car without understanding anything about it, accidents will definitely happen."
With people suffering from a downturn economy, I think the best thing we can do is to encourage them or introduce them some side hustles in order to gain additional income. I’m not talking about investments but more certainly jobs. And once they have gained sufficient funds and have earned already spare money, then that’s the best time to introduce to them about bitcoin investment. A little explanation would do but they should be responsible enough to study and research about bitcoin first before finally deciding to invest in bitcoin.

The problem with some people is that they keep on searching for quick and bigger financial returns, yet they are afraid to take some risk and do some extra miles of efforts. So they are doing the reverse instead. If their mindset continues to think like this, they will never really achieve their goal but will continue to struggle in life and embrace poverty in the end. Bitcoin is never the key to get rich and financially secured, but the opportunities it brought to us that majority have ignored are probably the answers to our financial problems.

Yep, give them a hoe and a garden so they know what to do, giving money only solves the problem temporarily and cannot solve the root of the problem. It is necessary to have many opportunities from work, but it is clear that in the current social context, there are many changes that force us to be more adaptable in taking advantage of work opportunities.

IMO, this era of internet space brings many specific job opportunities and must admit it is not too difficult for a beginner. And over time, they will accumulate knowledge and experience to find new opportunities (possibly investing in crypto). I remember past stories with friends when people wondered about profitable bitcoin quickly Smiley , just when people only think about a good result but haven't figured out how to create it.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.
well, I don't know if i might be wrong but if I meet a friend to help me out in times I'm struggling financially and he suggest any form of investment kind of a business, I would normally do what your friend did but that doesn't mean I'm lazy or wouldn't normally want to put in the needed effort required to birthing success.

What your friend need is money after which you can talk with him on the need to investing into a profitable asset and that's only when you can bring BTC as a good option to consider. If you had told about your signature campaign pay, he probably wouldn't look at that six months as a big deal. But being at that mix, it's just normal for him to think you want to introduce him to a ponzi scheme and opting out might be his most logical decision.


In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.

this is true for so many persons. They look at you from a distance and envy the life you're living but when it's time to pay the price you've payed to have gotten to that height, most of them would normally find it very difficult to do so. This is the reason why it's always lonely at the top because getting there involves resilience, commitment , sacrifices and lots of hard work which most persons aren't willing to do.  But the truth is that you don't owe any one shit. The decision to help them or not is totally up to you and if they are being unserious and not ready to pay the sacrifice to getting to the top, let them be and keep pushing.
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