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I wouldn't introduce any friend or relative to an "investment platform". You don't know what are on their minds and they might suspect you that you've been doing something wrong because there's already a wrong connotation with that term.

Just be honest with them if you don't want to tell them your source of income because it's just the same by telling how much you're earning and that should be kept confidential.

If you can suggest some hustles on him, you better tell him what he's up to and what kind of skills he needs to have but just don't get him into investing. Because when money is involved and someone is struggling to make ends meet, when he's seeing a paper loss value of his investment, who's going to be the first one to get blamed? You, for introducing him to that.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.

The story was interesting from the beginning until I reach the part I emboldened. Are you actually referring to this forum as a source of income? I'm sorry to say but you are not in anyway different from your friend, it's just a matter of time that differentiate you. I know that earning is possible here when you are favored but you should establish yourself outside the forum and look for real means of survival. Signature earning can stop any moment and if it’s the only thing you rely on as your source of income, it is as good as you don't have source of income yet. See it as additional earnings and side hustle, not main.

Moreover, it's very misleading to invite people here just to come and make money rather than to acquire knowledge on cryptocurrency. This is why the forum is flooded with newbies with no focus and vision but trying to abuse the system because of the orientation like this and if they failed to achieve it, they see you as lier and deceiver. It's good your friend turn down your offer because anything built on misconception will eventually collapse.
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There are really some people who wants easy and quick money. In today's world, that is very hard to come by. Only the people who are patient and are willing to exert all hard work and effort will gain success in the end.

On the other hand, I do understand that your friend might feel as though he will be wasting time without profit. Maybe your friend cannot really live without profit for that long period of time. He should have understood that the waiting is worth it. In the end,  the profit will be nothing like you expect.
Sadly not all who are patient and hardworking became successful in terms of being wealthy. The bad part is that, the people who wants quick and easy money are mostly the ones who got successful on the same field. Still, we should not be like them.

Success can still be define in other/many things, and not only about money. Not all times we are in profit and we may feel that we are only wasting a time, but at least we try and if we don't try, how will know if we are going to profit or not? If his friend can't live without a profit for a long period of time, then he might have died long time ago xd but actually that was true because how can we buy a food and other necessities in life if we don't have money?
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Everyone wants to earn profit but without patience and hard work we can never earn profit. Many people think that they will waste their time by not working but at the end of the day they will not get anything. Carry patience with you wherever you go. Impatient thoughts prevent you from reaching the pinnacle of success. Sometimes you may suffer from not getting the result or getting it late but don't give up. There are many people who go out and work to earn more money but it is the result of their patience.
Maybe it is best to say everyone wants to experience success but not every person wants to work hard to achieve such feat. Many people are really frustrated of how they will do things 'properly' in life. Everyone wants to earn big profit or to have big salary however, not everything in this world can be achieve with ease. Keep in mind that competition exist and that simply means you also have to work out yourself to be better or to put your maximum effort into it. If you want something you should have enough drive and put work into it, to make things happen. I do understand that some people are concerned with their loved ones but spoon-feeding won't be of any help in the long run.
It's tricky because investments can be a rollercoaster. You're smart not to spill your income source just yet. People often envy success but bail when it gets tough. Keep the convo open, explaining the risks and rewards. Your friend might not jump in now but planting the seed could grow into something later. Balancing excitement and reality is the name of the game. You're handling it well, letting him know success isn't all rainbows and unicorns
Also with impression on how investment works. People are disregarding the idea that many people lost on their investments simply because of risk. People who have ideologies of engaging to investments are sometimes only looking to desired result but not anticipating the unwanted outcome.  There's no easy way to earn profit. If you are one of those who are just looking to how an individual spends and not the idea of how he managed to earn and spend on things, then you should worry. Success is for everyone but not everyone experience success.
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Yep, I have some sympathy for the OP. No matter where we are, we can see the current economic situation and want to help those around us. But it is completely understandable that you are cautious and do not disclose your source of income.

I have never actively shared about money making opportunities, but if anyone talks and finds a new direction for their life, I am really open and want to understand their situation. Don't rush to give them financial investment opportunities, instead take advantage of the time to exploit jobs that can bring income, MMO is an easy choice. Learning about investing and only talking about money is a dangerous trap. The most basic thing is that without knowledge, we cannot do anything. I often describe "driving, you can't just sit in a car without understanding anything about it, accidents will definitely happen."
With people suffering from a downturn economy, I think the best thing we can do is to encourage them or introduce them some side hustles in order to gain additional income. I’m not talking about investments but more certainly jobs. And once they have gained sufficient funds and have earned already spare money, then that’s the best time to introduce to them about bitcoin investment. A little explanation would do but they should be responsible enough to study and research about bitcoin first before finally deciding to invest in bitcoin.

The problem with some people is that they keep on searching for quick and bigger financial returns, yet they are afraid to take some risk and do some extra miles of efforts. So they are doing the reverse instead. If their mindset continues to think like this, they will never really achieve their goal but will continue to struggle in life and embrace poverty in the end. Bitcoin is never the key to get rich and financially secured, but the opportunities it brought to us that majority have ignored are probably the answers to our financial problems.
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It's tricky because investments can be a rollercoaster. You're smart not to spill your income source just yet. People often envy success but bail when it gets tough. Keep the convo open, explaining the risks and rewards. Your friend might not jump in now but planting the seed could grow into something later. Balancing excitement and reality is the name of the game. You're handling it well, letting him know success isn't all rainbows and unicorns
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Everyone wants to earn profit but without patience and hard work we can never earn profit. Many people think that they will waste their time by not working but at the end of the day they will not get anything. Carry patience with you wherever you go. Impatient thoughts prevent you from reaching the pinnacle of success. Sometimes you may suffer from not getting the result or getting it late but don't give up. There are many people who go out and work to earn more money but it is the result of their patience.
One thing I've come to understand in the struggle of life for survival is that if you fold your hands and wait for the day to come and take your life because there had been no hope for sustainment, it's better of keep struggling with a decision that if the life must go, let it be at the point of not giving up until the day has come.
Embracing opportunities, hardworking, consistent and patient is the way and the break through to life. If you're not born a royalty you don't need the golden spoon so.
I think that guy just needed to enroll for one of the stay at home and earning payments which is definitely impossible and if he doesn't seem to change then his financial situations stays along with him.
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If someone asks me "please tell me how to make money" I would say "Just get a job, bruh...". I'm not responsible for other people's financial situation and I don't want them to blame me when things don't go out as expected. I would never reveal to anyone that I'm involved with crypto. Even if I tell a friend that I have crypto, he might not be interested in this, but he will share the info with other people and some of them might be scammers. The people, who ask me "what do you do for a living?" and "how do you make money?" are the most annoying people. I usually tell them "mind you own business!". Angry
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Abraham Maslow's level analysis of needs theory shows that human physical needs come first and after fulfilling physical needs, safety needs are followed by social needs, social needs are followed by self-esteem needs, and at the last level comes the need to achieve self-fulfillment. In other words, human needs in the world are infinite, after one need, another need comes to people. So at every level they are engaged in work now coming to preparation and preparation which we think unprepared may be its inefficiency. Because after one need of a person is fulfilled, he works or wants to work to achieve another need, but if he does not achieve success in that work, we think that it is his inefficiency. Because we know that not everyone in the world is skilled at work or can acquire skills.
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A very closed friend of mine yesterday asked me to carry him along towards what gives me income, he stated it that the national Economy is currently weak like a disaster to the society bringing even the average citizens to a zero level talk more of those whom are vulnerable.
He made some points about some some known whom where doing so financially and even at now they never slacked from their hustling but just seems like they are hustling in vain because whereas most of them has lost their financial net values to %15 - %25.
He said he is scared of what would happen to lives in the closest future but yet he is wondering what my (EluguHcman) Source of income is because it is obvious that I am not affected with the current system of the economy.
Out of curiosity he said to me that my friend, if you makes $2K monthly income and you take me along with you I will be so satisfied if I can make $50 incomes. Please, show me the way.

I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.

In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.


I'd like to share my thoughts on this.

Many people, in my observation, tend to fall into one of three categories when it comes to their future: they might be fearful of what's to come and avoid planning, they might focus solely on finding quick financial solutions, or they might lack an emergency fund to support themselves during periods of unemployment. As a result, they often prioritize short-term options with guaranteed income, even if it means sacrificing the potential for greater earnings in the long run. This can make them hesitant to pursue careers like freelancing, content creation, or bounty hunting, which may involve temporary periods with no income.

I hope your friend finds the job he truly desire.

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He said he is scared of what would happen to lives in the closest future but yet he is wondering what my (EluguHcman) Source of income is because it is obvious that I am not affected with the current system of the economy.
Out of curiosity he said to me that my friend, if you makes $2K monthly income and you take me along with you I will be so satisfied if I can make $50 incomes. Please, show me the way.

I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.

In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.

Do not take it personally, people are just like that, so if for example you stopped seeing your friends for a few months and then when they see you again you had lost a lot of weight and you had bulging muscles they will immediately ask for your secret, but if you were to tell them that you just went into a diet and exercised every day, they will lose any interest as they do not want to make all of that effort and they just want fast gains.

The same is true here, bitcoin offers huge gains for long term holders, but often we need to spend years with our investment underwater and being ridiculed due to our choice by others, and yet as soon as bitcoin shows a positive trend, many people come to us to ask us about how to replicate our success.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.
I don't know if you have another Investment platform you want to introduce your friend to. This is because Bitcointalk shouldn't be seen as an investment platform or a major source of income. One could earn money through signature campaigns but these incomes are not certain or consistent which is why we should have other stable sources of income. Introducing the forum to people by telling them about earnings in signature campaigns I not a good strategy. You should showcase the forum as a learning platform first before any other thing

People are more interested in getting rich quickly and don't want to make any form of input to achieve their goals. They just want to sit down doing nothing while money flows into their account or wallets. They are not willing to learn a skill or study about an innovation, but they just want to start earning.
Aside earning in Bitcoin or from the signature campaigns, there are existing platforms one can invest or acquire earning.
I needed to know this guy's level of Patient and potentials when chasing after incomes via his ready and  conducts towards an employer or to the investment platform. I was ready to help him out but his impatiency and other exhibitions doesn't seem impressive.
I have come across some person's preferred to stay by the streets earning nothing and can not even afford food to eat but yet they have this unprofitable pride deciding to stay jobless than accepting the little jobs that can fetch them the values to afford their essential needs in a main time with the potentials of better days ahead.
I do not want who would sabotage my Indulgences or who would blame me over their inability of moving ahead of achieving great things.
Lot of persons just want to get things get done as it pleases them without the efforts of passing through the due processes.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.

In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.


But were you lying to him or what? How can you pull such a trick on him? If you have any investment that you want him to join, just open up and tell him what to do, you don't have to open up and tell him how you started your journey to invest in such asset and you don't have to inform him how much you have invested too. Only inform him how he can start, the risk that are involved and waiting time, the terms and conditions, if he accept to shove in, it's his decision, you have played your path.
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Everyone wants to earn profit but without patience and hard work we can never earn profit. Many people think that they will waste their time by not working but at the end of the day they will not get anything. Carry patience with you wherever you go. Impatient thoughts prevent you from reaching the pinnacle of success. Sometimes you may suffer from not getting the result or getting it late but don't give up. There are many people who go out and work to earn more money but it is the result of their patience.
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also people need to understand people in 3rd world have a income of $50 a month, where getting a western min wage of $2.6k is a dream.. but if they are not willing to put in the effort of getting a work visa and actually being involved in western living, they will only get the minimums of what they expect from their native region

companies in the west dont pay employees internationally at same rate. its how they save money. so even if someone from US and someone from africa both applied for the same "remote working" role for same company, they would get different pay rate
Your points are make sense, but there was someone in my country claimed able to earns $3K by remote working, when the minimum wage in my country arounds $200.

Recently a lot people in my country choose to work overseas, most of them choose to work in Australia since it's one of highest wage country in the world. Unfortunately not many people can live alone without any family, there are no friends can be trusted because people nowadays only care with their spouses or someone who gives them benefit, not to mention language barriers, different cultures, and other struggles.
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I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.
It is quit unfortunate that people want to know your source of income to know what to tell people outside. I have stop some conversation with some people because they are of spy than a friend. Not all friends are friend. Any of your friend that always ask you what do you do? How much is your worth or even monitoring the types of cloth, shoes and anything you put on, just stay clear from such person. Most of them comes in form of competion, by wanting to wear the types of cloths you were or trying to do the things you do, just stay away because such person will always want to be ahead of you and if you tell him what you do, his intentions is to come am competet with you or looking for a way to bring you down. Not every body that deserves help. Some are like a snake in a trap, the moment you want to free them from the trap they stink you with their venum.

In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.
People always want a quick way to success. Life is not as they think. I could remember also a friend of mine that asked me of the type of business I do, I told him I am not doing any business, but I earn from a platform which i learn about bitcoin, an we also share ideas and receive some amount of btc weekly he was so curious to start making money like me, I told him it's not don that way. That it will also take him time too, he insisted and I open the account for him. Instead of following the rules he was trying to be smart by doing copy and paste sothat he will meet up and earn merit to rank up but was caught several times and was ban. So the lesson of the story is that don think you can do what others do because you think human are thesame. using that mindset that I can do what they are doing. Do they have two heads ? You might not be as patient as your friend. You might also not spend the time your friend spend all day. Whosoever that wants to help should consider the person in question, if he/she is worthy of help, otherwise your help will be used against you.
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It's not his fault I think the pressure of society and being in a condition well below the line makes him reluctant to make such strong decisions if investments. When a person is in this type of situation he is more into finding some ways to earn rather than investing into something along with the fear of losing those investments.

If you've got some good skills you should have helped him with the money.you should have taken the money and then invest in along with your assets then give him the commission on profits. You can also reduce the commission by keeping some for your service of trading.When you'll convince him and make him believe that your investments are safe then he'll surely invest I think
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I have experienced this recently as I have friend who was affected by the ongoing lay offs happening globally and jobless from past two months wherein he was very keen to know about my additional source of income and if I could help him with it but when I started explaining to him he was not ready to take risk and then when I have suggested him some ideas like small scale business which can give him good source of income but he has to get it done by himself but he don't want to be part of anything which would be considered as small business as he don't want people to know he is struggling for the sake of reputation even if it can give good profit.
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Your buddy is looking to make some fast cash.  I beleive we have all been there before.  But real talk, that quick money rarely just falls in your lap.  Making decent money usually requires putting in work and taking some risks over time.  You mentioned investing.  Now that can pay off down the road, no doubt.  But 6 months, a year - that may not line up with what your friend has in mind.  And you never know which way those investments gonna go.   

Maybe, instead of seeking a quick solution, your buddy could benefit from some self-reflection on his skills and what types of work he would be willing to put in the effort for in the long run.
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There are really some people who wants easy and quick money. In today's world, that is very hard to come by. Only the people who are patient and are willing to exert all hard work and effort will gain success in the end.

On the other hand, I do understand that your friend might feel as though he will be wasting time without profit. Maybe your friend cannot really live without profit for that long period of time. He should have understood that the waiting is worth it. In the end,  the profit will be nothing like you expect.
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