Topic: Someone BUYING older accounts here for mass propaganda.... - page 3. (Read 6305 times)

Hahaaaa, how predictable, a little too uncomfortable for the mods?? Ooops, better move it so it gets less views!  

Dramatic like this one?


Better start buying then because this has just proven how completely wrong and ill-informed you are on this matter. I made 0.52 last month and I've been here less than a year. Used to make much more than that when I was a Full Member too. Take a look over in the digital goods section for evidence of this and look at the responses to people when they ask why the accounts are being sold for so much or anything at all. "Signature campaigns" are the answer you will see over and over again. Everybody knows (apart from you) that 99.9% of accounts sold here are done so for signature campaigns. In the past you could get between 0.4-2.4btc with a Full or Snr Member account alone per month per account (a Snr account takes nine months to achieve btw) so buying a few accounts is very profitable. People want them to earn money because you can't join a high-paying signature campaign unless you are at least a Member. You can troll and post fud from your throw-away Newb account though and then just create a new one if/when you get banned.


Wrong again - very easy to make a quick profit as I've already explained. Do you have evidence some sort of astroturfer organisation are buying accounts for such uses or is it just your own biased opinion again? I've already explained several times how you can see a return on investment on accounts even purchased for 0.4 which is what the going rate for Snrs was up until recently, but I don't think you're willing to accept it.


What does 'mundane accounts' have to do with anything? The mundane the better for signature campaigns. All that matters is their Member rank. The higher the rank the more valuable the account is because the more you can earn from signature deals. Yes, that's right, signature deals. Is it merely a coincidence the guy trying to buy your account is on one?


Haha Finger puppets and 'deep-pocketed entity'. How can you claim to not be paranoid when making claims like this makes you sound exactly like your typical paranoid conspiracy nutter... or maybe you're just a troll and I'm being trolled here? Maybe your account has been sold/bought and is being used for the purposes you describe, so maybe I am wrong. The only person who is talking nonsense here is you and you're not trying to have a serious discussion at all but the opposite. You're making stuff up and acting like a child and sticking your fingers in your ears and going la la la and refusing to listen to any facts or alternative viewpoints at all.


As opposed to your argument which is based on absolutely nothing but your own minsinformed opinion? Pretty much all the fud or attacks or trolling I see here is from brand new or newb accounts so I don't understand your logic here at all. Who is this organisation that is buying a few hundred accounts at 0.2 or more a piece? The Illuminati? Calling you paranoid isn't an insult because it's exactly what you are being when you make ridiculous claims like "funny how this thread is being attacked". Attacked? You've been 'attacked' because someone was offering an alternative answer; one that you didn't like because it doesn't fit your agenda? That was a completely laughable accusation made in such an alarming conspiratorial fashion which conspiracy nutters often do to try and divert attention and play the victim and to make out as if the responses they have gotten are complete proof that they're right and are on to some conspiracy that they've just exposed.

It is a strong point. Of course they would argue that it can't be stopped so why not have it out in the open?

But it is indeed a HUGE problem for credibility and it creates a playground for whoever wants to manipulate the discourse for whatever purpose.

I find it interesting that this transparency about the sales of accounts does not seem to apply to the discussion of large-scale and well-funded organized campaigns of the buying of accounts.

Every time someone mentions it there are threats and attacks.

Of course I am not saying it is easy to counteract but it does threaten the legitimacy of the entire forum.

While that is a lovely strawman you've built. I'll stick to reality, and rather than "a Hero member who does nothing but troll and post fud" think in the vein of "a few hundred accounts ranging from full member to hero who post a large number of new topics and replies including false news, reasonable-sounding FUD and exaggerations of bad news, as well as personal attacks and accusations of paranoia against anyone who tries to expose or even discuss what they are doing in the forums" 

That much is obvious. The first thing I do when I see a post with a dramatic title is check who posted it.

As for nonsense about sig campaigns, we all know that there is NO possible way to make money buying accounts as anonymous and recently registered as mine for .250 BTC EACH! If someone shows me how to make over a quarter bitcoin a month (as some poster claimed) buying accounts that are only a year old and just have full member status, then I will start buying up crap accounts with my BTC today LOL!  

The purpose of this mass buying of accounts is NOT to turn a quick profit, since there is no way to turn a quick profit buying up crap accounts at .250 each (or more). The purpose is to prevent people from instantly dismissing whatever they want to push by AT LEAST posting the FUD under accounts that don't scream "NEWBIE! REGISTERED TODAY!"

I have heard form others who had the spam offers to buy mundane accounts for relatively large amounts. I would appreciate it if they and any others would post in this thread. Even better it would be nice to hear from users who sold their accounts and are now using new or other accounts, but somehow I don't think they will want to add to this thread   .

So let the finger puppets spam this thread with threats to report it to moderators, blatantly nonsensical arguments and personal attacks, but why don't the rest of us try to have a serious conversation about what is going on with this campaign of some unknown but deep-pocketed entity overpaying for non-newbie accounts.

Thanks

That makes me feel so darn important...

Even though I'm not.

The rationale is it can't be stopped or policed effectively and if accounts are allowed to be sold openly people will be constantly aware that an accounts can and are sold, so that's why you shouldn't necessarily trust an account or hold it in a higher regard merely because of member status.


And nobody would give a fuck about a Hero member who does nothing but troll and post fud. People aren't going to respect their posts if they're posting shit just because they're a Hero member.

Wrong. People don't give a fuck about newbs. Hero Members impose respect, it's psychological. I wouldn't sell an Hero account for less than 1 BTC AT LEAST. It takes fucking forever to achieve Hero status.

Very strange this isn't against the rules, how does the website benefit from not banning this? Surely it damages the sites credibility as it will lead to even more fud.  Why bother have the new member posting rules if the site owners are not concerned about credibility of content?

But that account is anonymous.

You'd be basically selling your identity if you sold your account. And you (personally) would be socially responsible for how the account was used after you sold it, since people would think that it was you.

It depends.  To some people that is a lot to others nothing.

People have a whole range of uses of accounts and there is a clear market..

Accounts here actually seem to be a better investment than most the scammy dice sites and HYIPs... the price in $ has been increasing with them and they by their nature increase in value..

Haha, you really believe someone is buying accounts for propaganda purposes? Now that really is cute and a little extreme. Can you provide evidence of how he is trying to mass buy accounts and for propaganda purposes? I dont think you're really thinking this through. So you really think people go around throwing money away to buy accounts for this purpose when there's a good chance they'll be banned? No. Sure, higher ranked accounts carry a little more weight but you can do more damage with an army of newb accounts you can quickly create for free. Unlikely people will want to risk their money this way. And many people do buy several accounts for sig campaigns as you can or could make your money back in less than a month. This practice of trying to buy accounts is common and I've seen it happen several times and many have been banned for sending the unsolicited messages.


Saying things like that leads me to believe that you're pretty paranoid and irrationally jumping to conspiracies here and are incapable of looking at this from any other angle. How has this thread been 'quickly attacked' exactly?

Seems to me.. He's a true believer of the saying "old is gold"...

Yep, and many people think that this kind of job is like robbing and it is not fair.

Would love if there was some indicator....

Maybe "time since last password change" or something.

Or a history of IP geo location for accounts.

True. And for others it is their job and they are paid to do it 

Today a lot of people just attack others. I think it is they purpose.

Very interesting to see how quickly this thread is being attacked, isn't it