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Topic: Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins (Read 8052 times)

legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
September 09, 2015, 06:28:43 PM
#87
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io

Do you guys feature any sort of cheat protection? Unfortunately I haven't tried the site out myself yet, but if it is a clone of agar.io, there are many bots out there that basically run an algorithm to automatically play the game for the player. If there is no defense to such abuse, you could expect many cheaters to take advantage of legitimate players.

I've played a few rounds, and there doesn't seem to be any cheaters yet, but if there are cheaters they are doing it very subtly. Cheating doesn't seem to be that big of a problem yet, but I agree that there should be some cheat protection implemented.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
September 09, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
#86
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io

Do you guys feature any sort of cheat protection? Unfortunately I haven't tried the site out myself yet, but if it is a clone of agar.io, there are many bots out there that basically run an algorithm to automatically play the game for the player. If there is no defense to such abuse, you could expect many cheaters to take advantage of legitimate players.

I tried your site. Your site might be abused by bots, haven't tried a bot yet but maybe will try one soon. Also your site needs a Ddos attack protection. Use cloudflare for that.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
September 01, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
#85
Interesting maybe you could add the pvp of agar.io like get shit stolen idk there is a lot you can do its been adapted to so many things from restraints to car purchases to drugs Grin
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1034
September 01, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
#84
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io

Do you guys feature any sort of cheat protection? Unfortunately I haven't tried the site out myself yet, but if it is a clone of agar.io, there are many bots out there that basically run an algorithm to automatically play the game for the player. If there is no defense to such abuse, you could expect many cheaters to take advantage of legitimate players.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
September 01, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
#83
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io

I clicked "spectate" and there's only a timer on the top. Is there nobody playing?

Yeah, at the moment there's nobody. That's the problem with PvP games, usually there's not many people online to play against.

I support tspacepilot's suggestion, a faucet would let us test the site out, and bring new users in.

I suggest making a ping limit for servers, so people with insanely high ping can't play against people who have lower ping.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
September 01, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
#82
Looks like you guys basically achieved what was in the OP.

I think you ought to put some kinda very cheap faucet for the first two weeks or something like that.  Otherwise you might find that no one is willing to be the first to put their money on the line.  I thought about buying in with a small amount to play a little bit, but there was no one in the main room to play against.

Good luck!  I'll be keeping an eye on this, I love agar.
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 1360
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September 01, 2015, 04:57:15 PM
#81
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io

I clicked "spectate" and there's only a timer on the top. Is there nobody playing?
hero member
Activity: 1890
Merit: 824
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September 01, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
#80
Hey Guys - check out our new Bitcoin-Game - the new experience of online gaming with bitcoins! Chop'em all and earn your coins by eating the others and becoming the largest Player on the server!

www.chopcoin.io
sgk
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
Looks like someone started working on it after all:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-agar-1102055
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

But agar.io's base unit doesn't seem to be "kills" but mass.  In your system, killing a fresh guy who just bought in is worth as much as a giant.  And not all giants got big from kills.  You can get reasonbly large from consuming the food the appears. I really think you want to consider kills to be an artifact and consider mass as the real unit for calculation.

This is a good point to consider.  Rewarding kills will make the game play differently for sure but that might not be a bad thing, who knows until we see it in action.   It wont be worth killing anyone blob who is small (not with 4 kills) in this version appart from making yourself bigger in mass to kill other bigger blobs, maybe that could help stop super teams dominating and not even letting the little guys get going.

Again you could always have options to play either a mass rewarding game or the kill rewarding game.  I'm really happy if anyone is making any version so we can make suggestions after its up.

Make it possible for skilled players to be +ev with a fair fees and there is tons of money for the right developers to make here.  

sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 260
Love the idea, definitely something I would play tons! The gambling aspect can make a lot of great games even more fun, if there are proper anti-cheat measures taken.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.

it's normal thing , in many games skills play part of the game
in agar yes maybe it's all about being good at the game without luck involved
but there are many players and ready to compete with others even if they are not very good at the game
and you can see here a lot of people are interested in this game and they will for sure throw some coins
by the way I suck at agar but I find this idea of making it as a gambling platform really great and unique  Grin
member
Activity: 72
Merit: 10
Go to www.agar.io and after the page loads completply type the following into your URL field (manually): javascript:connect("ws://194.63.143.136:443") and press enter, then choose a nickname.

This is our Free for All Server

You can also deposit some satoshis here 13aNcbUNCCGxGWkyvnH11H6b4KyxLjNHVN

if this wallet balance reaches 0.1 BTC i will launch a Fresh Agar gameserver and after 24h, the first 3 people in leaderboard get prices Smiley

1# will get 0.05 BTC
2# will get 0.03 BTC
3# will get 0.01 BTC

legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000

Something i was thinking about IF.... bots became a huge problem in the future (im still not sure) then you could just not allow instant cash out and review some actions.  Obviously the site would have to become popular to justify time and enery policing games and to even have a review feature.  Again with poker, you dont get instant cash outs (on fiat sites at least) and actions can be reviewed. 

Certain bots/software could be ok and others not. We just need a game where skill is the #1 weapon, doesnt have to be perfect.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.

But agar.io's base unit doesn't seem to be "kills" but mass.  In your system, killing a fresh guy who just bought in is worth as much as a giant.  And not all giants got big from kills.  You can get reasonbly large from consuming the food the appears. I really think you want to consider kills to be an artifact and consider mass as the real unit for calculation.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?

I will profit from the game. No straight fees but rather I will earn from the death of the players.
When you kill someone you earn their 0.001 BTC fee + 50% of their kills.
The other 50% of the their kills will be lost and go to me.

So, if you kill someone that has 4 kills, you earn...

- their 0.001 entry fee
- 0.002 (50% of their kills)

That other 0.002 will go to me, partially to help improve the stability and performance of the servers.
Its not a straight out % fee, but I think it'll be better this way. I don't think it will be worthwhile to put ads on the site so i'm not going to bother.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1004
Guys! I'm almost finished with my version of this.
I'll make a thread about it when i'm ready to launch.

Right now its setup like this...
[1] Generate unique BTC address for users to send to
[2] Click the "Play with BTC" button and there is a client + server side check to make sure the required amount of btc has been deposited in the address
[3] If the check passes then put the user in the game.

This is all I have so far, so the next thing is to keep track of the user's kills and process their withdraws.

This is what i'm thinking:
It costs 0.001 BTC to enter the game. (~$0.25)
When you eat another player you gain their 0.001 BTC buy-in AND 50% of the kills they earned.
When you want to withdraw you must be in the top 10 players AND after requesting a withdraw you have to stay alive for 30 seconds. (to prevent frequent combat logging)

So if you are in the game and eat 10 people you could potentially earn... 0.01 BTC - 0.03 BTC+ or higher depending on their kills.
However, if you die you walk away with nothing.

Here's a little more info..
I'm running the server on a pc that i revived from my basement (not too bad).
It'll be hosted out of west coast Canada.
If I start earning decent money with this I will look into hosting in other areas and upgrading my internet speed to improve your user experience.

I think I want to add some type of in-game chat system to keep everything a little more lively.
The source code I used for this is basically an exact replica of the original game.

If anyone wants custom skins in the game LMK!
I like Agar.io and I was hoenstlu suprised that someone here alredy thought of bitcoin version of that game. It is very interesting news.
So you want to profit from this, but from what I could see you won't take fees from the players. How do you want earn? Ads revenue?
Will there be a testing mode where you can play without entry fee?
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Guys! I'm almost finished with my version of this.
I'll make a thread about it when i'm ready to launch.

Right now its setup like this...
[1] Generate unique BTC address for users to send to
[2] Click the "Play with BTC" button and there is a client + server side check to make sure the required amount of btc has been deposited in the address
[3] If the check passes then put the user in the game.

This is all I have so far, so the next thing is to keep track of the user's kills and process their withdraws.

This is what i'm thinking:
It costs 0.001 BTC to enter the game. (~$0.25)
When you eat another player you gain their 0.001 BTC buy-in AND 50% of the kills they earned.
When you want to withdraw you must be in the top 10 players AND after requesting a withdraw you have to stay alive for 30 seconds. (to prevent frequent combat logging)

So if you are in the game and eat 10 people you could potentially earn... 0.01 BTC - 0.03 BTC+ or higher depending on their kills.
However, if you die you walk away with nothing.

Here's a little more info..
I'm running the server on a pc that i revived from my basement (not too bad).
It'll be hosted out of west coast Canada.
If I start earning decent money with this I will look into hosting in other areas and upgrading my internet speed to improve your user experience.

I think I want to add some type of in-game chat system to keep everything a little more lively.
The source code I used for this is basically an exact replica of the original game.

If anyone wants custom skins in the game LMK!
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue


Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game. Tongue

Just like taking candy from a baby  Grin i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA

I can forsee that a few 'experts' will dominate the game and take away btc from everyone else.

Yes but like poker right, the players at the very top of the game are basically unbeatable, they dont play against eachother without a fish in the game to feed off of.

We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.

Let look at 2 things seperate a minute:

God like skill is great for the games and will attract even more players.  All other games where humans can show a great deal of skill works out very well.

Bots may or may not be a problem, i've still yet to see any bots for this game which are any good.  Please link them up anyone.

I think the game is mabye too complex for someone with a bot to dominate and be unbeatable (maybe thats just atm).  They said that bots would dominate NL poker and 10 years later the games still run and bots cant dominate in the NL format since its still too complex.  Software in poker can give an advantage.

To give a practical example how would you code a bot to auto dodge a virus being shot at them in this game?
hero member
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We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.
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