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legendary
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It would be really cool if something like that was implemented and anyone could create a room where other people can come but have to pay the fee the owner of the room makes, say i want to make a room with 0.001 fee and the winner gets everything, maybe let everyone have more than 1 life, maybe 2 or 3, anyhow this is a really cool idea.

The concept of peer game betting is almost like Poker I guess. If someone make this game for bitcoin , you can market it like poker which has some GTD room and also freerolls. Much better is that the site owner could get a profit from people purchasing an extra life , extra life will keep your blob to not lose its mass
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue


Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game. Tongue

Just like taking candy from a baby  Grin i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA

I can forsee that a few 'experts' will dominate the game and take away btc from everyone else.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
It would be really cool if something like that was implemented and anyone could create a room where other people can come but have to pay the fee the owner of the room makes, say i want to make a room with 0.001 fee and the winner gets everything, maybe let everyone have more than 1 life, maybe 2 or 3, anyhow this is a really cool idea.
sr. member
Activity: 577
Merit: 283
Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins

That's funny, I've been thinking the exact same thing every time I play it.
Same here as well, would love to give fees for playing if only I could get that feel of winning btcs just by playing a simple(hard and addictive) game xD. Someone make this fast.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue


Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game. Tongue

Just like taking candy from a baby  Grin i will take all their dinner money like a playground bully MUHAHAHAHA
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue


Now kids will bet with BTC because of this game. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Okay, I got sucked in and lost like 4 hours of my day the other day to this game.  I got to like 3rd at one point and oh my god.

But one thing I couldn't really figure out was how there doesn't end up being one blob that eats like the whole game.  Since I never got to 1st, I don't know, but how is it that one blob doesn't get to 1st and then become unbeatable and basically own the board?  Maybe it's because eventually one of those green things will appear in your stomach and burst you?

The are a few things which keep the big cells in check:

Every blob loses a small percentage of its mass each second. This becomes significant for large blobs.

The bigger you get, the slower you travel.

If you 'feed' a virus 8 (?) times, it will spit out a new virus. Small players can take advantage of this to shoot a new virus into you, blowing you into small pieces which they (or a friend) proceeds to eat.

I didn't realize about the shrinking---I figured that's the most logical way to keep the big guys from ruling forever, but I hadn't noticed the shrinking in playing.  I definitely didn't realize about the feeding a virus 8 times thing.  I saw the "spit out some mass" instruction but didn't know why it would be useful.  What a fun game anyway, I had a blast with it.

There must be somewhere that people are talking about tricks and strategies and whanot.


There are plenty of tips and tricks on youtube, i might put up one myself but i really should stop playing this game until its for real money. Grin

I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue

Cool, looks like the budget seems low though? not that i have much experience.   Hope it works out.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
I don't know how I missed this thread before but ... Yeah and it's going to be made seems like => https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11613163 , I gave that guy the link to the Agar.io source code (a clone not the real version) and now he is looking for developpers to make it with Bitcoins just like you said  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I didn't realize about the shrinking---I figured that's the most logical way to keep the big guys from ruling forever, but I hadn't noticed the shrinking in playing.  I definitely didn't realize about the feeding a virus 8 times thing.  I saw the "spit out some mass" instruction but didn't know why it would be useful.  What a fun game anyway, I had a blast with it.

There must be somewhere that people are talking about tricks and strategies and whanot.

If you click the gear icon, you can set some flags. One is 'show mass' which makes the client display your 'mass'. That way it's easier to see how you shrink over time, especially once your mass is a few hundred.

The 'w' key is useful to lighten yourself if you need to move faster to escape capture, and also to feed friends.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Agario/ is quite active.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1083
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Okay, I got sucked in and lost like 4 hours of my day the other day to this game.  I got to like 3rd at one point and oh my god.

But one thing I couldn't really figure out was how there doesn't end up being one blob that eats like the whole game.  Since I never got to 1st, I don't know, but how is it that one blob doesn't get to 1st and then become unbeatable and basically own the board?  Maybe it's because eventually one of those green things will appear in your stomach and burst you?

The are a few things which keep the big cells in check:

Every blob loses a small percentage of its mass each second. This becomes significant for large blobs.

The bigger you get, the slower you travel.

If you 'feed' a virus 8 (?) times, it will spit out a new virus. Small players can take advantage of this to shoot a new virus into you, blowing you into small pieces which they (or a friend) proceeds to eat.

I didn't realize about the shrinking---I figured that's the most logical way to keep the big guys from ruling forever, but I hadn't noticed the shrinking in playing.  I definitely didn't realize about the feeding a virus 8 times thing.  I saw the "spit out some mass" instruction but didn't know why it would be useful.  What a fun game anyway, I had a blast with it.

There must be somewhere that people are talking about tricks and strategies and whanot.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Okay, I got sucked in and lost like 4 hours of my day the other day to this game.  I got to like 3rd at one point and oh my god.

But one thing I couldn't really figure out was how there doesn't end up being one blob that eats like the whole game.  Since I never got to 1st, I don't know, but how is it that one blob doesn't get to 1st and then become unbeatable and basically own the board?  Maybe it's because eventually one of those green things will appear in your stomach and burst you?

The are a few things which keep the big cells in check:

Every blob loses a small percentage of its mass each second. This becomes significant for large blobs.

The bigger you get, the slower you travel.

If you 'feed' a virus 8 (?) times, it will spit out a new virus. Small players can take advantage of this to shoot a new virus into you, blowing you into small pieces which they (or a friend) proceeds to eat.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1083
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Okay, I got sucked in and lost like 4 hours of my day the other day to this game.  I got to like 3rd at one point and oh my god.

But one thing I couldn't really figure out was how there doesn't end up being one blob that eats like the whole game.  Since I never got to 1st, I don't know, but how is it that one blob doesn't get to 1st and then become unbeatable and basically own the board?  Maybe it's because eventually one of those green things will appear in your stomach and burst you?
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
But I don't know how might this work,
You could go out the game and cash out in any moment? every point would have a value in bitcoin?

I guess it's comparable to poker: you could have ring games, a tournament schedule, and sit-n-go games.

The ring game is where you can buy in at any point, and it costs a fixed amount for your basic tiny starting blob, and you can 'cash out' (self-destruct) whenever you like, and get paid according to how much you've grown. Maybe the self-destruct takes 60 seconds to activate, so you can't do it just as you're about to be eaten.

Tournaments would have a fixed duration. The biggest N blobs at the end of the game get paid out. Or make it last-man-standing, where you get paid according to your placement. Maybe you have the supply of 'dots' in the game gradually diminish, so the game can't go on forever. Eventually everyone will starve to death, but the last one standing wins.

Then you can add 'bounties', 're-buys', etc. Lots of the ideas you see on poker sites seem to carry over pretty well.

For the ring game idea, it is likely that some users will just buy in, eat some food cells, quit (after 60s) and repeat the process over and over, especially with the help of some bots like the one in Stunna's post.

The tournament idea sounds great, but would the small blobs be cooperating at the very last moment to create a big one and share the pot? It would ruin the game then.

You could adjust the parameters to suit each game varient.  For the ring game idea you make it so blob size must be say 250+ or 500+ before any cash out is possible.  The operators would have to keep a close eye on things and adapt many rules when it first started.  People playing this for money would make the games play different.

Again make it with the tournament idea so "cheating" doesn't really profit - many ways to adjust payouts/rules.  People making teams/alliances in individual games is very fun so would be good to keep it that way but just make it so everyone can potentailly be beat.

Something i notice on the team version of agar is once a colour establish a huge lead they are very difficult to overcome, infact if the team with the huge lead play even somewhat close to optimum  i would say they are impossible to overcome, that should change.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Exhausted
But I don't know how might this work,
You could go out the game and cash out in any moment? every point would have a value in bitcoin?

I guess it's comparable to poker: you could have ring games, a tournament schedule, and sit-n-go games.

The ring game is where you can buy in at any point, and it costs a fixed amount for your basic tiny starting blob, and you can 'cash out' (self-destruct) whenever you like, and get paid according to how much you've grown. Maybe the self-destruct takes 60 seconds to activate, so you can't do it just as you're about to be eaten.

Tournaments would have a fixed duration. The biggest N blobs at the end of the game get paid out. Or make it last-man-standing, where you get paid according to your placement. Maybe you have the supply of 'dots' in the game gradually diminish, so the game can't go on forever. Eventually everyone will starve to death, but the last one standing wins.

Then you can add 'bounties', 're-buys', etc. Lots of the ideas you see on poker sites seem to carry over pretty well.

For the ring game idea, it is likely that some users will just buy in, eat some food cells, quit (after 60s) and repeat the process over and over, especially with the help of some bots like the one in Stunna's post.

The tournament idea sounds great, but would the small blobs be cooperating at the very last moment to create a big one and share the pot? It would ruin the game then.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Agar can't be turned into a skill based gambling game. The major issue is bots/hackers.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13H5Pgx7mk

If anyone has a smart solution to this, our team would like to make a polished group skill based game.

fwiw in that example that person could have been killed when playing as the bot - at least twice it moved him too close to other blobs.  I would have to test it out fully but it seems like it was only helpful to pick up food when no other blobs were around you.  I've got pretty sick at this game and that bot wouldnt help me.  

I guess the example was showing what is possible? If the bots could be made to a much higher standard they might help.  The game is pretty complex though no? seems like it would be hard to make automated bots which were impossible to beat.  

A bot with just a guideline of who can kill you from what distance would be an advantage, but you'd still need to be in control - maybe this is similar to pokertracker when playing poker.

Would be cool if the primedice team did this game though then you know its going to be done right Smiley

Does anyone have a video example of any other bots?


Edit: So yeah i think that bot does show a kill range or ive now seen another that does.  Its not a problem to creating a skill gambling game of this.  The biggest variable is still human skill/incompetence from what im seeing.

When you get to a high rank the things which normally kill you are seperating at the wrong time/getting eaten by a bigger ball/getting hit by a virus (those green spikey things).  Automated bot wont stop you dying.

If you charge per go people must play decent each go. (cant leave automated bot on and only take over when its done well etc)

full member
Activity: 189
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Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins. Have a low entry fee per game or something, 0.0001 each time you start a new game etc. Take a small rake, make it possible to earn.

Idea: You could have it so the higher you got up the leaderboard the bigger the prize but you only win it if you cash.... then you start over.

The game is pretty simple & awesome imo.
I have just tried agar.io out, it's very fun. Maybe in the bitcoin version luck and skill could be balanced so that a new player has a chance of winning against a pro but the pro has slightly higher odds(like in poker). The thing is that if you have an entrance fee there might be no or only one player playing at times which would enable that player to simply "level up", wait for someone to join and just eat them instantly. The general idea is cool but the bitcoin game would have to be very well thought through and a bit different than the original version.

Maybe you could play in teams(you can't eat your teammates) to solve the bot problem. Since bots are very predictable you could trap them and eat them. Overall there would be a lot more strategy involved if you're playing in teams.
sr. member
Activity: 262
Merit: 250
Dubs Get
http://crimedice.mybluemix.net/

that source is public, you could add a time based round system, every player has to deposit like 0.001 to join one round, the winner gets like 99% with 1% house edge.
Maybe ill play around with this today Smiley very addictive game
nice idea but it is very laggy, i recommend a new host
member
Activity: 72
Merit: 10
http://crimedice.mybluemix.net/

that source is public, you could add a time based round system, every player has to deposit like 0.001 to join one round, the winner gets like 99% with 1% house edge.
Maybe ill play around with this today Smiley very addictive game
newbie
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Merit: 0
So i'm making this a reality.. fixed up an old PC from the basement that should be able to handle a decent amount of users.
Put ubuntu on it and got an identical agar.io clone running smoothly locally. Now I have to incorporate btc and a payment system.

Bought the domain BtcBlobs.com for future reference. Will keep you guys posted on my progress.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 905
Merit: 1000
Put agar.io in a custom bootable linux operating system that won't let anything else run with it.
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