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August 10, 2016, 01:56:30 PM
#67
If Jeff did the shit he appears to do with other people's money, and did it in the outlaw biker world instead of the liberty world, he'd be buried alive in the desert in an oil barrel.

If he did it in the street drug trade he'd get capped in an alley.

Very true.

In the liberty world, which Bitcoin certainly was in the early days, many have gotten away with worse things than Jeff Berwick did: Mark Karpeles comes to mind. I was so convinced that he'd end up dead in an alley, but even he is still crawling around.


Yup.

Mark Karpeles is safe (?) in prison. Berwick throws an annual party in Mexico and invites everyone. lol.
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In cryptography we trust
August 10, 2016, 01:54:55 PM
#66
If Jeff did the shit he appears to do with other people's money, and did it in the outlaw biker world instead of the liberty world, he'd be buried alive in the desert in an oil barrel.

If he did it in the street drug trade he'd get capped in an alley.

Very true.

In the liberty world, which Bitcoin certainly was in the early days, many have gotten away with worse things than Jeff Berwick did: Mark Karpeles comes to mind. I was so convinced that he'd end up dead in an alley, but even he is still crawling around.
sr. member
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August 10, 2016, 01:49:09 PM
#65
Jeff Berwick always gave me the classic "internet marketer" vibe, that's all. He has no deeper technical knowledge about anything, he just parrots whatever the smarter engineers are saying.

So true.

Yesterday on the radio he said the Steem white paper is "possibly genius." lolz.




Yeah it seems this guy is a great pumper but that's about it. He sometimes gets things right tho.. he was recommending buying Bitcoin when it was like 10 dollars, so if someone listened to him and bought im sure they have good opinion of this guy.


Yeah it seems this guy is a great pumper but that's about it. He sometimes gets things right tho.. he was recommending buying Bitcoin when it was like 10 dollars, so if someone listened to him and bought im sure they have good opinion of this guy.

Exactly. And he still can't even really solidly explain what Bitcoin is. And he certainly can't explain what Steem is. Listen to his interview on Free Talk Live from the other day.
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Check out how when Darryl asks Jeff a tough question it's all "I'm not really sure of the technical details."

In that interview, Jeff also calls the Steemit white paper "possibly genius." lolz.
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August 10, 2016, 01:34:18 PM
#64
PS: Harcore voluntarist here......

Me also. Pretty sure same is true with smooth and iamnotback....

Hi, just a few thoughts. I was given the link to this thread by a steemit user, because I had told him how mad I was and that I was about to go to the German authorities and the press, if I was presented with solid evidence of a scam or fraudulent behavior...... my line for fraud is pretty fat red and rather easy to step on. You don`t even have to cross it. .......because nothing MWD64 has presented so far contains a single shred of evidence regarding Steemit......

No offense MWD64, I really appreciate what seems to be good intentions, but you`ll have to put up some more facts.

I don't have a lot of "proof" either, just evidence and gut feeling. I'm usually right about that too. Unfortunately, I can't tell what will be a winner (if I could, I'd be rich), but I can usually spot the losers. Have a good track record with that.

But for something more than gut feeling go through the last week of this guy's Twitter and read his page-by-page analysis of the Steem white paper:
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT

I also like Jeff Berwick and got to know him a little at Anarchapulco. He might not have a flawless character (not that I noticed anything unusual), but I think he`s honest......

I've met him in person too. He's likely fun to have a beer with, HOWEVER. Libertarians let people get away with so much shit.

If Jeff did the shit he appears to do with other people's money, and did it in the outlaw biker world instead of the liberty world, he'd be buried alive in the desert in an oil barrel.

If he did it in the street drug trade he'd get capped in an alley.

I'm not talking about the $200 bucks he owes me (though that wouldn't stand either) but I'm talking large sums. Like people's life savings.

If he behaved like he has to libertarians but did it in actual finance worlds, he'd be either in prison, or no one would ever deal with him again. Yet here is everyone saying "Jeff is on to something new! He's got such a good track record with money! (he doesn't). Let's jump on his new thing again!

I mean, just the fact that he pretends to be a millionaire but when I ask for the few hundred he owes me, he says he's "practiculy broke" and pays me 2/3 of what he owes me. Jesus.

There was simply too much chatter of "centralized power", "scam", "dan`s big ego", "steem dumping", "bitshare buddies bailout", "envy" and bad behavior even among whales" etc etc etc., so it got me worried, because I had actually turned into a "True Believer"......

It's hard to say what Steem is. The makers of it have layered it in so many wrappings of whatever. They say that's part of the mechanism. I say it's to obscure its true nature.

Regardless, I predict than within about 9 months Steem and Steemit will either:
--be bought out by Facebook or Google and nothing people like about it now will remain, and every non-whale will feel cheated.
--be exposed as a Ponzi and the principles will be headed to prison
--will be exposed as a CIA plot to keep anarchists busy chasing digital nickles.

--The least horrible outcome will be this: it turns out to not be a scam, won't be out of business, but will be the shittiest site in the world. Because the pay model encourages click-bait.

Imagine a social network that has a hundred million articles with spam-email titles like Berwick's "I made 15,000 dollars in a day in my underwear!" or whatever.

MWD
(I'm not anon, three smart clicks and you'd have my full name.)


legendary
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August 10, 2016, 12:07:59 PM
#63
Jeff Berwick always gave me the classic "internet marketer" vibe, that's all. He has no deeper technical knowledge about anything, he just parrots whatever the smarter engineers are saying.

So true.

Yesterday on the radio he said the Steem white paper is "possibly genius." lolz.




Yeah it seems this guy is a great pumper but that's about it. He sometimes gets things right tho.. he was recommending buying Bitcoin when it was like 10 dollars, so if someone listened to him and bought im sure they have good opinion of this guy.
legendary
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August 10, 2016, 06:26:31 AM
#62
Simply wow and thank you so much Sir! Still reading, but it`s already some of the best stuff I`ve read on this Forum (not talking about the coding stuff, I don`t understand everything anyway, but from an ethical point of view).
You have a new follower on Steemit.
sr. member
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August 10, 2016, 05:54:46 AM
#61
@iamnotback:

Are you Anonymous or can one find your name if one wants? Same question for Smooth.

I am not anonymous:

https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@anonymint/anonymint-from-bitcointalk-introducing-myself

Afaik, @smooth is anonymous, but he should be the one to confirm or deny.

I am also a Dashtard and @smooth and @iamnotback and some other Monero guys with their SJW-like ultraorthodoxy have been getting on my nerves quite a few times here, since more than two years now.

Maybe you missed @anonymint's (some people claim I was TPTB_need_war although this remains officially unconfirmed because iamnotback yet[1]) recent mea culpa and move away from being an altcoin sheriff:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15121763
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14869764
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15234366

@smooth also appears to have taken a turn for the more pragmatic side as well:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15228523
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15226165


[1] This monkey business has something to do with a permanent ban but I don't really understand nonsense.
legendary
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August 10, 2016, 05:36:47 AM
#60
Hi, just a few thoughts. I was given the link to this thread by a steemit user, because I had told him how mad I was and that I was about to go to the German authorities and the press, if I was presented with solid evidence of a scam or fraudulent behavior.
There was simply too much chatter of "centralized power", "scam", "dan`s big ego", "steem dumping", "bitshare buddies bailout", "envy" and bad behavior even among whales" etc etc etc., so it got me worried, because I had actually turned into a "True Believer".

Normal crypto-projects are B2B projects for me, so buyer beware rules, but I`m actually so exited about Steemit because this time "we crypto people", invite the moms and pops and little guys and poor africans etc into crypto and with end-users and non-crypto-experts, my line for fraud is pretty fat red and rather easy to step on. You don`t even have to cross it.
I also like Jeff Berwick and got to know him a little at Anarchapulco. He might not have a flawless character (not that I noticed anything unusual), but I think he`s honest.
I also like Synereo and hold some AMPs since ICO.
I am also a Dashtard and @smooth and @iamnotback and some other Monero guys with their SJW-like ultraorthodoxy have been getting on my nerves quite a few times here, since more than two years now.

But I love seeing them here now, because if they are so dead serious about Satoshis principles, I hope they would not fall for a crypto-scam that hurts little guys (as opposed to some bct troll freak, whom I don`t give a shit about).

@iamnotback:

Are you Anonymous or can one find your name if one wants? Same question for Smooth.

I`m asking because I am not anonymous and you can find my name if you want.
I`m also to be found on Steemit: https://steemit.com/@fabio
I`m a finance guy and after being in crypto since 2011, I`m growing tired of the old "oh, I hide my identity because I`m such an idealist" mantra, as in my experience, 95% of the time it`s just a lame excuse for being a coward at best and some criminal at worst.

But I don`t think this applies to smooth and you, iamnotback, it only makes it harder for me to trust you guys.
I don`t know shit about coding and I am not as smart as anyone here in the thread, but I`m an idealist and I`m going to raise hell, if it turns out that people I bring into steemit are being treated like stupid german money one more time by some US salespeople.
(I advise any Noob to not put a single Dime into it, what I do is another story).

So that being said, thanks for the thread, because it actually make me a little bit more condifent again, because nothing MWD64 has presented so far contains a single shred of evidence regarding Steemit (I don`t give a fuck about that Chile thing and yes, entrepreneurs are well allowed to fail). No offense MWD64, I really appreciate what seems to be good intentions, but you`ll have to put up some more facts.

PS: Harcore voluntarist here. You have no idea how much you have to piss me of if I ever threaten with calling the Gov for help.
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
August 10, 2016, 12:36:11 AM
#59
I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.

Hmm. At least they didn't name it Scenario, Cheerios, FruitLoops, or SatoshiCrunch. The porn or locomotive connotation seems to insure people won't confuse it with Synergistic.

Any other examples of them ripping off other ideas?

Anybody who was around during 2013 knows that Bitshares' DPoS algo was a blatant ripoff and perversion of NXT's PoS algo.  I was one of the very first people mining PTS, and BTS was originally going to be pure PoW.  Once the Larimers heard of NXT's revolutionary PoS algo, they copied it and changed it into Delegated PoS, which ensured that they could rig the elections via strategic voting to keep it under their control.
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August 09, 2016, 08:21:28 PM
#58
I am starting to thing that IAMNOTBLACK is a paid shill for Steem.

I see you have dementia from all that heroin you admitted to doing (heard it on your radio broadcast).

Of course the caveat problem is Steem being DPoS (delegated-proof-of-stake) with 19 witnesses (delegates) and most of the stake controlled by a few guys. And Steem's license prevents forking, so if someone brings a legal action that forces Dan and Ned to censor the blockchain, then we the ecosystem are maybe fucked. So this ideal may not be strictly true for Steem.



I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.

Hmm. At least they didn't name it Scenario, Cheerios, FruitLoops, or SatoshiCrunch. The porn or locomotive connotation seems to insure people won't confuse it with Synergistic.

Any other examples of them ripping off other ideas?
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August 09, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
#57
"Steemit: where people who swear by the free market now expect to get free money for their crappy writing." - Michael Jon Barker
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August 09, 2016, 07:12:42 PM
#56
My friend JP just sent me this.

legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
August 09, 2016, 07:05:28 PM
#55
Jeff Berwick always gave me the classic "internet marketer" vibe, that's all. He has no deeper technical knowledge about anything, he just parrots whatever the smarter engineers are saying.

So true.

Yesterday on the radio he said the Steem white paper is "possibly genius." lolz.





The Larimers are scum of the earth and always associate with their peers who are trash.  Not too long ago, they were welcoming with open arms the drug dealing, porno peddling, pigeon racing, internet "get rich quick" guru Mark Lyford.  Birds of a feather.

Am I the only one to notice that STEEMIT, as a word, attempts to not only steal thunder from the Steam platform for games, but mainly REDDIT? The Reddit part just hit me. Damn I'm slow sometimes. Am I the last person to "get" this?

I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.
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August 09, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
#54
Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling

the/e point to make

 to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.

thee/e for uh of whence

(yes, ep0

They're allowing anything now, but give it a while and I'll bet they censor posts damning Steem, Bitshares and Dan Larimer.

I am starting to think that IAMNOTBLACK is a paid shill for Steem. He's a fairly new account, mainly active on two threads (both pro-STEEM), and he's defending Steem HARD on both.

Probably Larimer.

I also think a lot of people have him on ignore.


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August 09, 2016, 06:22:02 PM
#53
Am I the only one to notice that STEEMIT, as a word, attempts to not only steal thunder from the Steam platform for games, but mainly REDDIT? The Reddit part just hit me. Damn I'm slow sometimes. Am I the last person to "get" this?
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
August 09, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
#52
Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling

the/e point to make

 to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.

thee/e for uh of whence

(yes, ep0
sr. member
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August 09, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
#51
Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling point to make to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.
sr. member
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August 09, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
#50
Something Fishy about Steemit and Steem?

The OP nailed it:

Quote from: female user on Steem
Personally, I think the biggest turnoff is the ocean speak. People can probably get over the url, but the ever so popular whale, orca, dolphin, minnow, phytoplankton distinction is too much.
sr. member
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August 09, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
#49
There was another social network that paid users to use it, I cant remember what its called though. It didnt last long.

Tsu.

And of course there's Futurenet  Shocked

+1
 
kek.

Amway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway
needs a social network.

MWD
legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
August 09, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
#48
There was another social network that paid users to use it, I cant remember what its called though. It didnt last long.

Tsu.

And of course there's Futurenet  Shocked
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