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Quote from: sunnybeacher on August 05, 2018, 07:51:45 AM

Going with friends is bad. I sometimes gamble all my money and I take loans from them without even being sure I would be able to repay them Sad

It is not right to blame others for our faults. It all depends on individuals because even though you don't go with your friends but you may go back to gambling again next day if your addicted to those games or want to make an easy and fast money from these games. So in gambling self-control is very important to avoid big losses. Once you know your responsibility then you know how much you can spend on these entertaining games otherwise you may through all your earned money on these games and blame to either your friends or someone who has given you money after the losses.

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Quote from: sunnybeacher on August 05, 2018, 07:51:45 AM

Going with friends is bad. I sometimes gamble all my money and I take loans from them without even being sure I would be able to repay them Sad

That's being the worst mindset of playing dude. It is not bad to go with your friends if you have limit in yourself bringing it on gambling. In the scene where you find that you don't have money left it was enough. Bring the money you will spend on gambling thats it but if you have no money then, its better not to go with them than making a loan with you in yourself is pity not sure if you can pay them.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on August 06, 2018, 02:14:15 PM

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Quote from: Rrtt on August 05, 2018, 07:49:11 AM

If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.

True, once we become a gambler, it'll be hard to stop it right away. But by bringing only small part of our money while we gamble, at least we still have time to think whether we want to risk the other money or not. The decision may differ from each person.

I wouldn’t call that a “gambler”, rather a “problem gambler”. Most casino users are gamblers and don’t go so far.

This is the difference with a gambler yet each one of them do have specific level of addiction which either can lead into decisions that is already severed or coming to a point where you arent convinced on the amount you have lost on playing gambling and besides if a certain person do knows that he do still have money left and theres a nearby ATM then the temptation or the provoking feeling would really always arise into those moments.
This is why dont bring out your card and only tend to bring money which is only allocated for such plays and dont tend to go further and call it a day once you all lost those money.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on August 06, 2018, 02:14:15 PM

Quote from: emberbekas on August 05, 2018, 08:57:32 AM

Quote from: Rrtt on August 05, 2018, 07:49:11 AM

If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.

True, once we become a gambler, it'll be hard to stop it right away. But by bringing only small part of our money while we gamble, at least we still have time to think whether we want to risk the other money or not. The decision may differ from each person.

I wouldn’t call that a “gambler”, rather a “problem gambler”. Most casino users are gamblers and don’t go so far.

But still it is a gambler no matter what would be the suffex or prefix. If you are into gambling, chances are you will be facing monetary problem in the future thus causing you to gamble more hoping that it would solve that problem.

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In gambling you lose, you win some. If you lose, you can try to win again, but never risk yourself just for the sake of money. Never risk everything if you just want to win a small amount of profit that will need your entire life time savings. Always think for your future, you cannot depend yourself in gambling if you are careless, because you might end up with nothing. Think of gambling as a past time ONLY not your job.

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Quote from: emberbekas on August 05, 2018, 08:57:32 AM

Quote from: Rrtt on August 05, 2018, 07:49:11 AM

If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.

True, once we become a gambler, it'll be hard to stop it right away. But by bringing only small part of our money while we gamble, at least we still have time to think whether we want to risk the other money or not. The decision may differ from each person.

I wouldn’t call that a “gambler”, rather a “problem gambler”. Most casino users are gamblers and don’t go so far.

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Quote from: rickadone on August 05, 2018, 01:49:23 AM

How is trading not greedy ?
How does traders don't have to greed the gamblers have ?
I mean I feel like its just the opposite if you ask me. If you are gambling yes there are people who want to earn money from gambling however a lot of people like me who gamble just for the entertainment value, just like it was some game to play on your PC.

Nevertheless, the main point of trading is earning money, you do not trade to lose money or have fun, you can gamble for entertainment but you can't trade for entertainment. If you are a gambler and addicted than you can be right but the whole purpose of trading is greed, gambling on the other hand can be just some fun experience.

Trading does not necessarily means that you are a greedy, greed means an excessive desire for something way above your needs, if you invest or trade then it is obvious you want to earn money since no one does it in order to lose, but there are differences, those that invest in icos expecting a return of 100 times their investment are greedy but those that invest in bitcoin and are willing to hold for the long term and expect moderate profits cannot be said to be greedy they are just smart and solid investors and nothing more.

Also trading and investing can be done for fun as well, while it is obvious the main objective is to make money that does not mean that you cannot have fun with it, for example my main investment is in bitcoin and since I invested the price of bitcoin has gone up in a significant way so I am really happy for that situation despite the current bear market in which we find ourselves to be in.

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Quote from: Maricel2017 on August 04, 2018, 07:28:02 AM

Its hard to say that, specially if you are already addicted even you reach your limit you will keep going on until you didnt notice that youve lose lots of money already. For those new at gambling make sure you know your limitation to avoid addiction like op said at the title of this thread enough is enough.

If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.

True, once we become a gambler, it'll be hard to stop it right away. But by bringing only small part of our money while we gamble, at least we still have time to think whether we want to risk the other money or not. The decision may differ from each person.

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Going with friends is bad. I sometimes gamble all my money and I take loans from them without even being sure I would be able to repay them Sad

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Quote from: Maricel2017 on August 04, 2018, 07:28:02 AM

Its hard to say that, specially if you are already addicted even you reach your limit you will keep going on until you didnt notice that youve lose lots of money already. For those new at gambling make sure you know your limitation to avoid addiction like op said at the title of this thread enough is enough.

If you are a gambler, controlling yourself is easier said than done. You will leave your ATM card at home and bring only certain amount to gamble but if you lose you go home and get that ATM card and go back to gamble hoping that you will regain that lost money only to lose more. Have experienced this kind of scenario, self control is very hard when you know that you still have money back home.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 03, 2018, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 20, 2018, 02:32:34 PM

Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.

This is an excellent idea to keep check and balance of the amount spend on Gambling. Since Gambling is sort of emotional game, sometimes one does not stop in case of certain profit or loss and keep on going further which can give loss.

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Quote from: hubballi on August 02, 2018, 04:48:29 PM

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

How the income is profitable in the long run when you sportsBet? You literally are playing a predictable dice game and of course your knowledge of a particular sports matter but there are equal risks. I'm glad you have recovered your losses but you were playing with the equal amount of risks as you did while playing dice.

I think you don't know about sports betting as it needs calculation analysis and some old research and you can predict a bet on it. But in dice you are totally playing on luck. If you bet equally amount of value bet in each bet then you're loss chances are less and profit will be high.

Still applying equally of both the teams in sports be isn' t going to help much because at one side you will Win but at the other side you will lose and eventually the profit will be neglected by the loss.

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Quote from: Janation on August 03, 2018, 11:43:54 PM

Quote from: posi on August 03, 2018, 10:45:25 PM

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.

How is trading not greedy ?
How does traders don't have to greed the gamblers have ?
I mean I feel like its just the opposite if you ask me. If you are gambling yes there are people who want to earn money from gambling however a lot of people like me who gamble just for the entertainment value, just like it was some game to play on your PC.

Nevertheless, the main point of trading is earning money, you do not trade to lose money or have fun, you can gamble for entertainment but you can't trade for entertainment. If you are a gambler and addicted than you can be right but the whole purpose of trading is greed, gambling on the other hand can be just some fun experience.

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Quote from: nidacoinlove on August 04, 2018, 02:20:37 AM

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Quote from: Janation on August 03, 2018, 11:43:54 PM

Quote from: posi on August 03, 2018, 10:45:25 PM

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.

Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.

Everything that involves risk doesn't mean that it is likely gambling. Risk in involved everywhere in our lives, if it is any of the financial activity any other activity. The simple and easy example of risk in our life is that almost everyone need to travel on a daily basis which involves the risk of accident to loose life or serious damage to our body but still a lot of people ignore that risk factor and go for travelling.
So, is the case with the trading but it doesn't mean that involvement of risk makes it gambling. IN case of gambling and betting everyone knows that is a distracting activity.

Janation and Nidacoinlove, I understand your point but I want you to know that I pretty know what I'm saying when I said trading and gamble are the same because they both have to do with risk. However, have you ever googling the mean of gamble ? "take risky action in the hope of a desired result."

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Its hard to say that, specially if you are already addicted even you reach your limit you will keep going on until you didnt notice that youve lose lots of money already. For those new at gambling make sure you know your limitation to avoid addiction like op said at the title of this thread enough is enough.

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It's a great story, but OP need to have a better control when gamble, many people become bankrupt because they were consume by greed and anger, and keep on curious to win back the money,it's very lucky that this story got a happy ending, not all of the gambler story is as lucky as OP , usually when you lose then your bad luck will continue

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Yeah, control can be very hard to sustain especially on one of those messed up nights when a gambler drinks as well. Rather not to go to any casino on those nights. Occasionally it can be OK bachelorette party for instance, but regularly it is very against the odds

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Quote from: just_Alice on August 04, 2018, 04:47:34 AM

Some gamblers just really need to watch "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" movie to see what borrowing can lead to.

Is that movie really about gambling? Roll Eyes

Quote from: just_Alice on August 04, 2018, 04:47:34 AM

Long story short if you haven't seen that one - a guy who was really good at poker borrowed money from all of his friends and some gangsters too and lost the game (the main problem was that he was kinda good at reading people's faces and so he usually knew what cards they had on hands, but this time his opponent was cheating). Eventually, not only he has set up all his friends and owed LOTS OF MONEY to gangsters, but he was also threatened that if he doesn't return his debt he and his friends will be killed. Cheesy

I don't know how realistic this situation is, but every gambler just has to keep in mind that owing someone may end up very bad, so it's better to be left with nothing.

That's just a dramatic movie man and not a real-life scenario! There are no "thugs" to extort money out here, you simply come crawling to the house to try your luck! No one forces you to bet or no one threatens you from taking home the winnings.

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Quote from: jacee on August 02, 2018, 04:21:42 PM

Borrowing money on the other hand is much more common than you think. I've seen people borrowing money directly in a gambling site chatbox, asking/begging for someone to lend them some money.

Some gamblers just really need to watch "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" movie to see what borrowing can lead to. Long story short if you haven't seen that one - a guy who was really good at poker borrowed money from all of his friends and some gangsters too and lost the game (the main problem was that he was kinda good at reading people's faces and so he usually knew what cards they had on hands, but this time his opponent was cheating). Eventually, not only he has set up all his friends and owed LOTS OF MONEY to gangsters, but he was also threatened that if he doesn't return his debt he and his friends will be killed. Cheesy

I don't know how realistic this situation is, but every gambler just have to keep in mind that owing someone may end up very bad, so it's better to be left with nothing.

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Quote from: crwth on August 04, 2018, 01:25:52 AM

Quote from: Janation on August 03, 2018, 11:43:54 PM

Quote from: posi on August 03, 2018, 10:45:25 PM

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.

Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.

Everything that involves risk doesn't mean that it is likely gambling. Risk in involved everywhere in our lives, if it is any of the financial activity any other activity. The simple and easy example of risk in our life is that almost everyone need to travel on a daily basis which involves the risk of accident to loose life or serious damage to our body but still a lot of people ignore that risk factor and go for travelling.
So, is the case with the trading but it doesn't mean that involvement of risk makes it gambling. IN case of gambling and betting everyone knows that is a distracting activity.

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Quote from: Janation on August 03, 2018, 11:43:54 PM

Quote from: posi on August 03, 2018, 10:45:25 PM

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.

Well it’s just how it is here. We need to point out on something obvious but definitely just common sense. I think it has a different approach with trading and gambling. And people should treat it differently because if you dont, you are just going to do things rash and may not result well. We all have to take risks in order to move.

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