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Quote from: posi on August 03, 2018, 10:45:25 PM

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

Wow, I never thought someone would say that. That is obvious, sports gambling is a gambling. As long as you are risking you are risking something, that can be considered as a type of gambling.

Gambling and trading is not the same and it don't really have a rule as you've said. Most of the gamblers I know can't stay calm on a casino, winning is what they want, they will definitely be happy with it. Less emotions happen only on games like Poker but most of the gambling games? Not really. Greed? Most of the gamblers want to keep it but they can't, traders is not really greedy, they are doing it because it will be the way to generate a profit. Hope is not be considered in gambling since that will just keep on them to gamble their money and fear, I guess that also applies on traders but gamblers must not control their fear so they can just fear the loss and the effects that gambling can give them.

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Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

What you said about being superstitious regarding the number 3, that's called gamblers fallacy.
You start believing that you're owed a win on that number, while in reality it's entirely possible that that number never hits when you're playing.

Never try to see patterns in the numbers that are hit on the board. That really messes a lot of people up.

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

Sports betting is still gambling in the end, and if you mismanage your bets there is still the chance of losing your money, but it is definitely different from traditional gambling where probabilities are precalculated and the games have built in house edge so you're guaranteed to lose in the long run. As with all gambling, betting has lots of risk involved, but correct management of funds and not gambling what you can't afford to lose could net you a profit. I personally like to invest my crypto and lend for long-term gains as it's safer than betting, however.

Yes, sports betting is also gambling but some people don't really know that. However, gambling and trading have almost the same rules and fever cause they both require stay calm, less emotion and learning to keep greed, hope and fear under control.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 03, 2018, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 20, 2018, 02:32:34 PM

Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.

Yes i guess bringing hard cash whenever you go for shopping or gambling is the best thing to do than bringing your debit cards i guess.You will not spend across from your budget and you will not make any troubles too from your savings cards.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 20, 2018, 02:32:34 PM

Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.

I'm glad to have a responsible woman that knows how much money we can spend and doesn't go crazy with shopping. Being with a lady that doesn't stop spending is like having a dog that occasionally bites you, but you keep it because most of the time he's good and protects the house.
If you have to constantly remember to take cash instead of cards or set limits, maybe it's better not go near a casino at all? Cheesy

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 20, 2018, 02:32:34 PM

Don't go to the ATM. If you don't have the self control to not do that, then leave your bank cards at home. Go out gambling with a set amount of hard cash - if you run out of cash, and have no bank cards on you, then you have no option but to go home.

Very practical suggestion. A friend of mine does the same when they got to shopping with his wife. He leaves the cards at home and carries cash only. Cash is still very much common here and thus he can pay for thing easily. But if he is going to take his cards with him, his bank balance might be emptied completely. So this keeps check on his wife.

Now in case of gambling, it is you who has to keep check on yourself which is much harder. So the same technique can be handy.

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Quote from: hubballi on August 02, 2018, 04:48:29 PM

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

How the income is profitable in the long run when you sportsBet? You literally are playing a predictable dice game and of course your knowledge of a particular sports matter but there are equal risks. I'm glad you have recovered your losses but you were playing with the equal amount of risks as you did while playing dice.

I think you don't know about sports betting as it needs calculation analysis and some old research and you can predict a bet on it. But in dice you are totally playing on luck. If you bet equally amount of value bet in each bet then you're loss chances are less and profit will be high.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 02, 2018, 03:11:59 AM

Drunk + pissed + losing streak + ATM is not a good combination when you are in a casino. The chance of losing a lot of money is very high since you are drunk, your decision making is messed up and that is on top of the losing streak. To control the amount of money you spend in gambling, you just bring only the amount of money you plan to spend. Leave the ATM card at home. If it's possible go to the casino using a cab, much better, there are loan sharks waiting around the casino who accepts cars as collateral for those who wants to win back their money.

This is the worst combinations you'd want to be in before going to or when in a casino. For sure, you're going to lose and being drunk also makes the situation a whole lot worse because you could even bet what you don't even have. Very dangerous and highly not recommended. Good eye opener.

Lol, talk about tripple yathzee. Drunk, pissed, losing Cheesy

You can't get any worse than that, you really can't. I think anytime you mix gambling with drinking the results will not be good at all. I know they serve free drinks at casinos but obviously as we all know that is because they want you drunk so you lose more and don't care until next morning.

Casinos are designed perfectly for you to get loss inside and make it harder to leave the casino itself so you would spend an extra couple bucks before you leave. The colors, the no windows, the entertainment all of that just so you can spend a bit more time. Don't fall for that and don't drink when you are gambling.

Feeling of "not enough" is the crying out of greed. If you start listening to that then probably you will start collapsing your own plans of gambling. Limiting ourselves will be possible only when we have no room for emotions. If we start deviating from that then disaster may happen at any moments. Not just sometimes, always enough is enough with respect to gambling. Because at least that way, we may leave off some of our hard earned money unspent.

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Quote from: JanpriX on August 02, 2018, 10:16:14 PM

Good read mate. And this is really happening out there to many people who got buddies that are degenerate gamblers as well. But as we all know, if we'll gonna learn something from life, that is you need to learn things first by your OWN experience for you to really ponder what's the lesson that you really need to learn. You need to experience utter defeat and loss to value your money more. Thanks for sharing the very important experience that you have as a gambler and hopefully, many will get something out of it. Wink

The essence of reading is to learned and use it as basis, though own experiences is far differ from what we read, as we can easily say that it can never happen as we won't allow it, but the reality is we can't avoid it if you are already in this situations, nice share mate for more inexperience gamblers
should learn from this thread.

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Good read mate. And this is really happening out there to many people who got buddies that are degenerate gamblers as well. But as we all know, if we'll gonna learn something from life, that is you need to learn things first by your OWN experience for you to really ponder what's the lesson that you really need to learn. You need to experience utter defeat and loss to value your money more. Thanks for sharing the very important experience that you have as a gambler and hopefully, many will get something out of it. Wink

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Quote from: hubballi on August 02, 2018, 04:48:29 PM

Quote from: eternalgloom on August 02, 2018, 03:53:34 PM

Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

What you said about being superstitious regarding the number 3, that's called gamblers fallacy.
You start believing that you're owed a win on that number, while in reality it's entirely possible that that number never hits when you're playing.

Never try to see patterns in the numbers that are hit on the board. That really messes a lot of people up.

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

Sports betting is still gambling in the end, and if you mismanage your bets there is still the chance of losing your money, but it is definitely different from traditional gambling where probabilities are precalculated and the games have built in house edge so you're guaranteed to lose in the long run. As with all gambling, betting has lots of risk involved, but correct management of funds and not gambling what you can't afford to lose could net you a profit. I personally like to invest my crypto and lend for long-term gains as it's safer than betting, however.

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Well for those cases you really needed a sort of exterior help for controlling yourself Roll Eyes

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Quote from: hubballi on August 02, 2018, 04:48:29 PM

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

How the income is profitable in the long run when you sportsBet? You literally are playing a predictable dice game and of course your knowledge of a particular sports matter but there are equal risks. I'm glad you have recovered your losses but you were playing with the equal amount of risks as you did while playing dice.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on August 02, 2018, 03:53:34 PM

Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

What you said about being superstitious regarding the number 3, that's called gamblers fallacy.
You start believing that you're owed a win on that number, while in reality it's entirely possible that that number never hits when you're playing.

Never try to see patterns in the numbers that are hit on the board. That really messes a lot of people up.

that is why it is better to gamble in sports betting where winning is small but in long term ROI you will be in good profit. I have lost lot of my wealth when was playing casino and dice but thank god I joined sports betting and almost recovered my loss

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Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money.

Dice is probably fair so mixing it with your own superstition belief with leave you with nothing on your play wallet. Cheesy

There are some cases tho that your intuition is right and the next roll you get is correct.
I still believe that winning a gamble is a mixture of good luck and math.

Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

That is an example of a bad case of gambling addiction. NO one in the right would even think of selling their apartment just to have the money to gamble with. Those are the cases were the gambler needs psychological intervention. Borrowing money on the other hand is much more common than you think. I've seen people borrowing money directly in a gambling site chatbox, asking/begging for someone to lend them some money.

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Quote from: just_Alice on August 02, 2018, 03:01:14 PM

Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

What you said about being superstitious regarding the number 3, that's called gamblers fallacy.
You start believing that you're owed a win on that number, while in reality it's entirely possible that that number never hits when you're playing.

Never try to see patterns in the numbers that are hit on the board. That really messes a lot of people up.

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Wow, that's quite a story! I've made some new conclusions in relation to gambling. First: you shouldn't be superstitious when your money is on, that what really can make you lose money. Once I was crazy about number 3 so I did everything for three times in dice (don't mean just betting, a whole set of bets with particular numbers) hoping that for the third time I'll win. It didn't last for long, however made me lose some money. Second: you should never ever go beyond planned expenditure amounts for a day. Selling phone - sounds crazy, but not as crazy as a fact that gamblers can go as far as selling their apartments and borrowing money. And the last but not least: if you are hazardous and going out for a play you need to hire an authorised delegate to control your expenses.

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Quote from: krach on July 20, 2018, 09:14:28 AM

This is a story of one of those nights. This is a tale of a complete and utter degenerate gambling night, one in which there was lots of beer, coffee, comp meals, and visits to the ATM involved.

This story didn't begin well. Maybe no spot for a car was a good sign not to go there. The real mistake imo was to go to the atm when you lost everything you planned to lose. The day was just really unlucky with all those Jacks, zeros and nines you mentioned. Even if you are a good player, you can't make sure such things don't ruin the game.
You got extremely lucky in the end, though, and your article looks as if you learned the lesson. Good for you that you can analyze what's happening and managed to return the money eventually, while still regretting the overall experience.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on July 20, 2018, 05:38:27 PM

Wow it was a good read. I liked the emotions in the story. You really want the author to succeed as he's so miserable the whole time.
I have to say that I would've given up after the blackjack part. Maybe he should quit BJ for good and play roulette. He seems to be doing much better there.
Morale of the story? Don't drink and bet! I hope he remembered to wipe the phone before he threw it into that kiosk.

To avoid drinking while gambling should be one of the first rules for any gambler whether you are a professional or you are looking to have some fun, why do you think that physical casinos gives free drinks to the players that are betting a lot of money regardless if they are winning or losing? Because they want you to bet in a more reckless way and to bet more money since it is known that alcohol takes away inhibitions from people, another important thing is to never carry anything valuable with you like credit cards or jewelry since you could try to use them to keep playing or it could simply be stolen from you if you are not careful.

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Quote from: krach on July 20, 2018, 09:14:28 AM

If you are a true degenerate, than you are definitely familiar with the concept of “burning out” when it comes to gambling. We’ve all been there before, but for some of us the experiences are much more eye opening than for others. This is a tale about a time where wagered amounts that were way beyond what anyone would consider an “acceptable” gambling budget based on the amount of money I had at the time. Nevertheless, I will begin by telling you that sometimes you are just forced to go to a casino because that’s where your friends just so happen to be meeting up.

This is a story of one of those nights. This is a tale of a complete and utter degenerate gambling night, one in which there was lots of beer, coffee, comp meals, and visits to the ATM involved.

https://degenbet.com/sometimes-enough-is-enough/

In gambling controlling our selves is very important because we will lose everything if we didn’t. Try to set up everything especially about your money you need to do it in order to not lose everything.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on August 02, 2018, 06:59:44 AM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 02, 2018, 03:11:59 AM

Drunk + pissed + losing streak + ATM is not a good combination when you are in a casino. The chance of losing a lot of money is very high since you are drunk, your decision making is messed up and that is on top of the losing streak. To control the amount of money you spend in gambling, you just bring only the amount of money you plan to spend. Leave the ATM card at home. If it's possible go to the casino using a cab, much better, there are loan sharks waiting around the casino who accepts cars as collateral for those who wants to win back their money.

This is the worst combinations you'd want to be in before going to or when in a casino. For sure, you're going to lose and being drunk also makes the situation a whole lot worse because you could even bet what you don't even have. Very dangerous and highly not recommended. Good eye opener.

yeah it would be better if he didnt got tilted about his loss, since he is drunk he wouldn't be able to control himself good thing he put a limit on his atm, overall he was up after everything what happen but that was really dangerous.

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