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legendary
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February 10, 2018, 12:40:51 AM
#50
SpaceX successfully completed its test launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket. In typical Elon fashion, The simulated payload consisted on Elon Musk's own cherry red Tesla roadster with a dummy passenger (named Starman and wearing Tesla's spacesuit).
You gotta fucking love Elon.

The third booster hasn't been accounted for but they re-landed two of the boosters successfully. Its bloody epic to watch the live feed.

Guardian coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2018/feb/06/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-elon-musk-live-updates
Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Every Man, Woman and Child everywhere should watch this... Smiley Smiley


What is the difference between this SpaceX launch and what NASA has been doing over the last few decades?
Sorry, I;m just lazy to watch the video nor read the TheGuardian article.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE???
Seriously, Asking this question after all these years, After Elon Musk was ditched by his NASA heroes is unacceptable. It is akin to treason in the eyes of us SpaceX and Musk zealots. Cool

You have lost credibility today..LOL.
hero member
Activity: 1358
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February 08, 2018, 06:15:25 AM
#49
SpaceX successfully completed its test launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket. In typical Elon fashion, The simulated payload consisted on Elon Musk's own cherry red Tesla roadster with a dummy passenger (named Starman and wearing Tesla's spacesuit).
You gotta fucking love Elon.

The third booster hasn't been accounted for but they re-landed two of the boosters successfully. Its bloody epic to watch the live feed.

Guardian coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2018/feb/06/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-elon-musk-live-updates
Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Every Man, Woman and Child everywhere should watch this... Smiley Smiley


What is the difference between this SpaceX launch and what NASA has been doing over the last few decades?
Sorry, I;m just lazy to watch the video nor read the TheGuardian article.
Falcon Heavy can carry roughly three times the payload of the Space Shuttle and is thus the largest spacecraft in the history of mankind by a large margin. SpaceX is also a private company, while NASA is government funded.
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February 08, 2018, 05:59:40 AM
#48
SpaceX successfully completed its test launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket. In typical Elon fashion, The simulated payload consisted on Elon Musk's own cherry red Tesla roadster with a dummy passenger (named Starman and wearing Tesla's spacesuit).
You gotta fucking love Elon.

The third booster hasn't been accounted for but they re-landed two of the boosters successfully. Its bloody epic to watch the live feed.

Guardian coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2018/feb/06/spacex-falcon-heavy-launch-elon-musk-live-updates
Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Every Man, Woman and Child everywhere should watch this... Smiley Smiley


What is the difference between this SpaceX launch and what NASA has been doing over the last few decades?
Sorry, I;m just lazy to watch the video nor read the TheGuardian article.
hero member
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February 08, 2018, 05:32:26 AM
#47
To say that our current knowledge of conveniently termed "Laws of Physics" is incomplete would be an understatement by large.
Creation of miniature wormholes is currently an impasse but may not be so in near to mid term future - human colony on Mars would need to communicate with Earth in real-time and if microscopic wormholes connect communication centers on both end we would already have faster-than-light (FTL) communication.

Ambition to populate nearby planets is a precursor to acquiring FTL communication capability and Elon Musk is a man symbolizing that whole idea.
Imagine if there is a sort of galactic inter-planetary Internet and we just need to tune in by becoming FTL capable species.
On the other hand all that we call "matter" can be reduced to information, and if you can stream that information it may be recomposed as "matter" on the other end.

Doors of Knowledge are wide open, we just need to be ambitious and brave enough to step through and further promote our own brand "Made in Earth by Humans".

People tend to get extremely offended if you speak out against their holy religion that is science. So I try to be careful with my wording. But yeah, it's safe to say that we know absolutely fuck all about the universe.
hero member
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February 08, 2018, 05:29:16 AM
#46
By that logic, the galaxy should be partly colonized already by civilizations that have been around longer than we have.  We're orbiting a second generation star, so every being that evolved under the first generation stars should be billions of years ahead of us in technology, right?
That would require a civilization to actually have existed for a long enough time to be millions/billions of years ahead of us without having gone extinct. They would also have to exist in sufficient proximity of us.

Who knows how many galaxies (if any) are already partially or even fully colonized, but simply beyond our reach? We can only see as far as the light allows us to. And if the actual, rather than just the observable, universe is actually expanding faster than light that would make it virtually impossible to even attempt reaching some places. Given the potentially infinite size of the universe it seems potentially infinitely improbable for such a civilization not to exist in some place. But we know for fact that we haven't really seen shit yet. Maybe we got lucky and we're the first to get a shot, or maybe we're unlucky and just happened to be dropped in a place with nobody else close by.

The upper speed of light and hence travel for all matter in the forms currently accessible to us means we simply cannot travel to or even observe the expanses of universe. Like Vod said, its sobering and completely disappointing to realize that. But we don't want that right.

We want a scenario where these travels and observations are possible. That leaves one possibility. We as a civilization will need to to exist in a different form. A form where the laws of this "present matter" world don't apply. It becomes almost metaphysical and goes into the realm of spirituality but the more i think of it, the more i am convinced that there needs to be higher "planes of existence" where these physical laws that limit us to "speed of light" won't apply.

Like Dr. Manhattan from the Watchmen..Smiley

Given that there is a possibility to move to such a plane of existence, any civilization would probably need to exist for millions of years before thats possible. Its clear that we cannot exist on planet earth for millions of years. But maybe if we branch out and terraform enough planetary bodies, we can hope to survive long enough and become the super sentient beings that would be capable of Inter-galactic travel. So Elon is the first pioneer of this endeavour and Mars would be our first stop on this long road.

This all sounds completely mad but I don't see any other way that its possible..

Ohh and I am glad that a topic i started finally got some traction. Thanks to you Vod and BTCMillionaire..👍..I am writing this on a phone. Hope the formatting doesn't come out all trashy.
I'm not sure if we need to go as far as trying to drop into some metaphysical realm (which I don't even really know what it's supposed to encompass). Physics keeps expanding, and if FTL was found to be possible I can almost blindly guarantee you that physicists will just put that into the scope of physics. After all, there's some bodies, or even just information, that is traveling with some assignable speeds, which is basically mechanical in nature.

But naming conventions aside, I don't think that there are any rules that are set in stone for all times. And so far all the evidence points towards that notion as well. So for me there's no reason to assume that FTL won't be possible in the future and it seems more of a question of when. Musk does indeed seem to be one of the first few steps towards that kind of research.
hero member
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February 08, 2018, 05:18:36 AM
#45
Galaxies, solar systems, faster than light travel, other civilizations? You guys are swimming in shit, it's up to your eyeballs!



Research Flat Earth
I tried, was full of shit and fallacies. Have seen worse sources of entertainment though.
legendary
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February 08, 2018, 04:32:05 AM
#44
Galaxies, solar systems, faster than light travel, other civilizations? You guys are swimming in shit, it's up to your eyeballs!



Research Flat Earth
Fine! I'll research. But its not interesting enough,

I first want to hear the conspiracy theory give me some background as to why scientists and textbooks everywhere would like us to believe that the earth is round and not flat??
legendary
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February 08, 2018, 04:26:52 AM
#43
To say that our current knowledge of conveniently termed "Laws of Physics" is incomplete would be an understatement by large.

Umm. It won't be an understatement if the known laws are the only ones we can observe and experience in the present form. For example, Does a duck know that there's a Newton's law. Surely it applies to her but she has no knowledge of it nor the capability to use it to her advantage.

We go inside matter and we get lost in more particles and more fields. We look upto the sky and there is no limit as to what can be observed and yet, we don't know what to make of that knowledge. What I mean is that we are essentially ducks as of now. We would really need to evolve ourselves to be able to observe or understand the higher phenomena.

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Imagine if there is a sort of galactic inter-planetary Internet and we just need to tune in by becoming FTL capable species.
On the other hand all that we call "matter" can be reduced to information, and if you can stream that information it may be recomposed as "matter" on the other end.
Right. We would need to evolve as a species. FTL communication and matter getting transported as information is a possibility.

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Doors of Knowledge are wide open, we just need to be ambitious and brave enough to step through and further promote our own brand "Made in Earth by Humans".

That PCB chip was fucking cool man..!
legendary
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February 08, 2018, 04:23:03 AM
#42
Galaxies, solar systems, faster than light travel, other civilizations? You guys are swimming in shit, it's up to your eyeballs!



Research Flat Earth
legendary
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February 08, 2018, 04:17:13 AM
#41

That being said, if a civilization was even 200 years ahead of us, they would have moved past waves for communication (like we do now with fibre) and would be silent and invisible to us.   Chances are, if at least one civilization like this exists, they are a lot more than 200 years ahead of us. 

We could have intelligent neighbours less than a dozen years away, who communicate in the way our internet does - point to point.

If indeed such a civilization exists within say 30 Light years, they would be looking out for anomalies. Anomalies like a strange non-planetary object circling around the major Solar systems. Like The Starman. We could be in for a major surprise soon enough if they notice the Tesla.

But if there was such a civilization, wouldn't they have contacted us by now? Its just that the time-frame to develop such a technology should be small enough for those beings to remember their history. They surely must be aware of the archaic forms of communication (waves in this case) to be able to talk to the lesser civilizations like ours.
The fact that we haven't heard from anybody despite around 30 years of SETI means they are nowhere within those 30 Light years. Even if they are, they aren't very ahead of us in technology.

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February 08, 2018, 03:50:06 AM
#40

That would require a civilization to actually have existed for a long enough time to be millions/billions of years ahead of us without having gone extinct. They would also have to exist in sufficient proximity of us...The upper speed of light and hence travel for all matter in the forms currently accessible to us means we simply cannot travel to or even observe the expanses of universe...physical laws that limit us to "speed of light" won't apply...
Given that there is a possibility to move to such a plane of existence, any civilization would probably need to exist for millions of years before thats possible...
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To say that our current knowledge of conveniently termed "Laws of Physics" is incomplete would be an understatement by large.
Creation of miniature wormholes is currently an impasse but may not be so in near to mid term future - human colony on Mars would need to communicate with Earth in real-time and if microscopic wormholes connect communication centers on both end we would already have faster-than-light (FTL) communication.

Ambition to populate nearby planets is a precursor to acquiring FTL communication capability and Elon Musk is a man symbolizing that whole idea.
Imagine if there is a sort of galactic inter-planetary Internet and we just need to tune in by becoming FTL capable species.
On the other hand all that we call "matter" can be reduced to information, and if you can stream that information it may be recomposed as "matter" on the other end.

Doors of Knowledge are wide open, we just need to be ambitious and brave enough to step through and further promote our own brand "Made in Earth by Humans".
legendary
Activity: 1904
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February 08, 2018, 01:26:49 AM
#39
By that logic, the galaxy should be partly colonized already by civilizations that have been around longer than we have.  We're orbiting a second generation star, so every being that evolved under the first generation stars should be billions of years ahead of us in technology, right?
That would require a civilization to actually have existed for a long enough time to be millions/billions of years ahead of us without having gone extinct. They would also have to exist in sufficient proximity of us.

Who knows how many galaxies (if any) are already partially or even fully colonized, but simply beyond our reach? We can only see as far as the light allows us to. And if the actual, rather than just the observable, universe is actually expanding faster than light that would make it virtually impossible to even attempt reaching some places. Given the potentially infinite size of the universe it seems potentially infinitely improbable for such a civilization not to exist in some place. But we know for fact that we haven't really seen shit yet. Maybe we got lucky and we're the first to get a shot, or maybe we're unlucky and just happened to be dropped in a place with nobody else close by.

The upper speed of light and hence travel for all matter in the forms currently accessible to us means we simply cannot travel to or even observe the expanses of universe. Like Vod said, its sobering and completely disappointing to realize that. But we don't want that right.

We want a scenario where these travels and observations are possible. That leaves one possibility. We as a civilization will need to to exist in a different form. A form where the laws of this "present matter" world don't apply. It becomes almost metaphysical and goes into the realm of spirituality but the more i think of it, the more i am convinced that there needs to be higher "planes of existence" where these physical laws that limit us to "speed of light" won't apply.

Like Dr. Manhattan from the Watchmen..Smiley

Given that there is a possibility to move to such a plane of existence, any civilization would probably need to exist for millions of years before thats possible. Its clear that we cannot exist on planet earth for millions of years. But maybe if we branch out and terraform enough planetary bodies, we can hope to survive long enough and become the super sentient beings that would be capable of Inter-galactic travel. So Elon is the first pioneer of this endeavour and Mars would be our first stop on this long road.

This all sounds completely mad but I don't see any other way that its possible..

Ohh and I am glad that a topic i started finally got some traction. Thanks to you Vod and BTCMillionaire..👍..I am writing this on a phone. Hope the formatting doesn't come out all trashy.
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February 07, 2018, 08:40:17 PM
#38
I love this man. Can't wait to retire on Mars in a few decades. Hope the internet will be figured out to keep a realtime supply of earth memes.

Yes, we just need to figure out instantaneous communication like in Speaker for the Dead.
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February 07, 2018, 08:35:36 PM
#37
One thing it proved to the naysayers that the earth is indeed round, and not flat...

If there was anyone who legitimately believed the earth was flat, this wouldn't change their mind  Cheesy
newbie
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February 07, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
#36
Oh my god, what a landing. They programmed all that so nicely. The future is here Cheesy.
Thanks for sharing.

Not all.  One of the rockets (a NEW one!) did not return to the landing pad.  Sad

It's a great technology that rockets are reusable with SpaceX.
jr. member
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February 07, 2018, 03:24:20 PM
#35
I like the way this is put by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

It really explains how tough it would be for us to find intelligent life in the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sDtbTsmJcE

Excellent video.  Thank you!

Now I have to watch his 11:00 video on UFOs.  Sad

Yeah, that is an awesome video.

But, it definitely puts stuff into perspective.
jr. member
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February 07, 2018, 03:11:44 PM
#34
Why is everybody talking about Elon Musk, like he built his rocket alone by himself. He sure is a great guy, but SpaceX is company with over 60 000 people.

The same reason people talk about Bill Gates instead of Microsoft.

It takes a leader to make anything happen.

Case and point.

You need the Vision to get the company where it needs to go.
Vod
legendary
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February 07, 2018, 03:09:29 PM
#33
Why is everybody talking about Elon Musk, like he built his rocket alone by himself. He sure is a great guy, but SpaceX is company with over 60 000 people.

The same reason people talk about Bill Gates instead of Microsoft.

It takes a leader to make anything happen.
newbie
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February 07, 2018, 03:05:19 PM
#32
Why is everybody talking about Elon Musk, like he built his rocket alone by himself. He sure is a great guy, but SpaceX is company with over 60 000 people.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
February 07, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
#31
I like the way this is put by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

It really explains how tough it would be for us to find intelligent life in the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sDtbTsmJcE

Excellent video.  Thank you!

Now I have to watch his 11:00 video on UFOs.  Sad
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