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legendary
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September 19, 2018, 07:45:45 PM
#30
and marlboroza - asking where to promote his gambling affiliate link so he can earn a few cents from people who are losing serious money, surely he's the one to judge people and their moral standards and services  Wink
Your service is deceiving people with fake comments, fake likes, fake upvotes.

Gambling is still legal in most countries in the world, as for countries with restrictions and/or where online/real gambling is illegal and for countries where bitcoin is illegal, this is irrelevant, as they are not allowed to play/gamble with bitcoin anyway.

Thanks for your opinions, locking this topic because it is spammed with off topic replies.
jr. member
Activity: 112
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September 19, 2018, 07:06:34 PM
#29

Yeah, super legit to sell likes and spam. Roll Eyes and you did it like, now ? This wasn't 3 years ago.. and yes, account sales gradually became controversial, sorry to teach you that fact, kiddo.
Since you are so passionate about watching users, so you can talk about them, what about you ?
What else do you do, except from pumping scams on a massive scale considering the amount of different threads you made, and social media you deal with ?
If I'm full of shit, I wonder what that makes you full of, "mate" ?
This is an open forum. I am free to post whatever opinion I have, it hurts me to know it isn't "valuable" to your eyes.

I'm not sure. Given you know all that stuff, whose alt are you ? Hmm geez I wonder ...

You cannot compare what cannot be compared.

Account sales gradually became controversial? So you only oppose something if the circle jerk gang is against it? You don't have an opinion or moral compass of your own? Also, if you're trying to make a point using the word "kiddo", I don't get it.

Pumping scams on a massive scale? That's a bold statement and I don't see any proof to your claims.

Yes, you are free to post an opinion. But let me remind you:

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Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own.

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you culprit.

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Will be my only reply here.

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and you did it like, now ? This wasn't 3 years ago..

Your 3 years ago might be mine now, but guess I don't deserve that chace, huh? Better call me a culprit, scam supporter and spammer now. You truly have grown over the years  Wink




legendary
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September 19, 2018, 06:16:09 PM
#28
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So now you're all better and ready to accuse other members who make the same mistake? You auctioned it off, you didn't care who you sold it to and that user got negged to the ground later, while you remain clean. Yeah, there were no scams back in the day, everyone was legit lol. You're full of shit mate and I just proved it. You just wait and wait, ready to jump at any new thread about someone, ready to give your "valuable" opinion. At least I never auctioned off a forum acc to the highest bidder.

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This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.

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Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own.

Kind of got you there buddy.

Yeah, super legit to sell likes and spam. Roll Eyes and you did it like, now ? This wasn't 3 years ago.. and yes, account sales gradually became controversial, sorry to teach you that fact, kiddo.
Since you are so passionate about watching users, so you can talk about them, what about you ?
What else do you do, except from pumping scams on a massive scale considering the amount of different threads you made, and social media you deal with ?
If I'm full of shit, I wonder what that makes you full of, "mate" ?
This is an open forum. I am free to post whatever opinion I have, it hurts me to know it isn't "valuable" to your eyes.

I'm not sure. Given you know all that stuff, whose alt are you ? Hmm geez I wonder ...

You cannot compare what cannot be compared.
jr. member
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September 19, 2018, 06:05:47 PM
#27
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So now you're all better and ready to accuse other members who make the same mistake? You auctioned it off, you didn't care who you sold it to and that user got negged to the ground later, while you remain clean. Yeah, there were no scams back in the day, everyone was legit lol. You're full of shit mate and I just proved it. You just wait and wait, ready to jump at any new thread about someone, ready to give your "valuable" opinion. At least I never auctioned off a forum acc to the highest bidder.

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This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.

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Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own.

Kind of got you there buddy.

legendary
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September 19, 2018, 05:53:16 PM
#26
He gave a loan, people defaulted on the loan/loans and he is left with bitcointalk accounts as collateral. Of course he will want to liquidate these accounts in order to get his initial capital back instead of being stuck with accounts that he doesn't need?

He obviously did not sell these accounts knowingly to scammers.

And he's stopping now, and i presume this is something done way back. Why are you picking up on this now?

You are free to read the whole thread this quote is from.
If you look long enough into anybody's history, you'll find probably always find things, as controversial they may be.
Your short lived history is already filled with things, and it isn't like you're saying "Oh okay, I thought I helped, just picked up implications, sorry" and move on.
If you would have been around back in the days, you'd know that trading accounts was pretty common.
It gradually became more and more controversial as the quantity of scams skyrocketed on the board. (Scams that your "service" is helping, by the way...)

Since then, never touched another account than mine (and my alt that I have tagued with a neutral from my main account, that I use from my phone).
I trade, I help around, I do stuff that makes people happy around me in an ethical way.

Can't really say the same about you, heh ?
Stop seeing the mote in other's eyes and look at the beam in your own. Trying to bring the focus from you and your spam service to other's won't work.
jr. member
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September 19, 2018, 04:15:05 PM
#25

Nice work on avoiding the point that's painful to you, you culprit.
Keep up the work. You're gonna go far, kid.

Whatever makes you sleep better, buddy. Culprit? Kid?

You're a joke, the same is this forum. You attack me, but I just posted a thread where Legendary and Hero members do the same. Cowards and keyboard warriors, that's what the bunch of you are. Stroke your e-penis somewhere else loser.

EDIT: Hey yogg, so you were an account seller back in the day huh?  Roll Eyes Very nice!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14465685

I am selling a Full Member account created back in March 2014.
Proof of ownership is available for this account. I got this account as collateral from a defaulted loan.

For more details about the account, please check :
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=3en1426v

Posts: 140+
Activity: 140+ (Full Member)
Potential Activity: 240+ (Potential Sr. Member)
Post Quality: Very Poor
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.057

The bidding starts at 0.01 BTC
Bid increments : 0.01 BTC

The auction lasts 48 hours from the moment this thread was posted on the forum.
Escrow is welcome if buyer finds someone trusted to do that. Buyer pays escrow fees.

PS : I know I didn't follow up on a previous auction I started.
This was due to unforeseen personal events and is not likely to happen again.
legendary
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September 19, 2018, 03:41:51 PM
#24
It actually is. I don't know where you got that picture, maybe it helps you sleep at night since you also advertise them. The damage gambling does is horrific, maybe you'll learn that someday. Addicts are sick and you are fueling their addiction for a couple of bucks? "He'll gamble anyway" is not a valid argument. It's very possible for an addict to see your signature and relapse, believe it or not, so stop hiding behind statements like those.

Same can be said for drugs, you know what you're doing, nothing is hidden, "it's the player with himself only"?  Roll Eyes See the resemblance?

Nice work on avoiding the point that's painful to you, you culprit.
Keep up the work. You're gonna go far, kid.
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
September 19, 2018, 06:41:55 AM
#23
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.
That's a non-argument. At any given point in time, there is an overwhelming amount of users that need to be tagged (but still aren't). If you have free time and are willing to, compile a list and post it here.

You're a joke Lauda, your deflecting and avoiding any real answers has been brought to perfection. There's nothing to compile, all you have to do is type followers in the search bar. Your behavior is outright disgraceful and just shows how you long for authority and power. I'm glad I wasn't around when you were a staff member, that must have been a pain to watch.

Will be my only reply here.

Gambling (and advertising it) isn't considered immoral. Everything is clear, and known in advance. Players expect to lose, some can win.
It's the player with himself only, really. Most (if not all) of crypto-related gambling websites, are provably fair.

Fake followers give a wrong, falsely boosted, picture of the project, and hence this is a deceitful strategy.
This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.  Roll Eyes


It actually is. I don't know where you got that picture, maybe it helps you sleep at night since you also advertise them. The damage gambling does is horrific, maybe you'll learn that someday. Addicts are sick and you are fueling their addiction for a couple of bucks? "He'll gamble anyway" is not a valid argument. It's very possible for an addict to see your signature and relapse, believe it or not, so stop hiding behind statements like those.

Same can be said for drugs, you know what you're doing, nothing is hidden, "it's the player with himself only"?  Roll Eyes See the resemblance?

Selling other people's personal details (in this case, their email address), without their knowledge or consent is inherently untrustworthy.

Fake views/likes/upvotes are exactly that - fake. Their only purpose is to deceive other users, which is again inherently untrustworthy.

Other users deserve a warning about this before conducting business with Ludji. The red trust is warranted IMO.


I really wanted to be a valuable member for your information

You still can be. You are not being banned.

It's called marketing. Every fucking brand in the world has fake followers, but that's wrong it seems. I'm not to be trusted because I run a legit business, never scammed anyone, don't have negative reviews. Sure. What's the point of contributing when a wild DT member can piss on you whenever they want. Should I run an escrow service like Lauda? Should I join a gambling signature campaign if I want to earn money? This forum is a joke, the real cancer here are the power-hungry DT members, who can't stand anyone else with an opinion.


EDIT: Even the mods deleted my question to Lauda and marloboroza in this thread. It seems I stepped on someone toes here.

Here's a thread where a few Hero and Legendary members buy or ask about SMM services: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buy-followerslikessharesviews-4-facebook-twitter-instagram-and-youtube-1937884


When will you tag them?
legendary
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Merit: 18509
September 19, 2018, 05:35:13 AM
#22
Selling other people's personal details (in this case, their email address), without their knowledge or consent is inherently untrustworthy.

Fake views/likes/upvotes are exactly that - fake. Their only purpose is to deceive other users, which is again inherently untrustworthy.

Other users deserve a warning about this before conducting business with Ludji. The red trust is warranted IMO.


I really wanted to be a valuable member for your information

You still can be. You are not being banned.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3158
September 19, 2018, 04:55:04 AM
#21
I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.
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How is advertising gambling sites for money moral(since it's not legal in some places), but fake followers are not?

EDIT: Ah, thanks Lauda. I see you are the first to tag me. Good job losing another member.

Will be my only reply here.

Gambling (and advertising it) isn't considered immoral. Everything is clear, and known in advance. Players expect to lose, some can win.
It's the player with himself only, really. Most (if not all) of crypto-related gambling websites, are provably fair.

Fake followers give a wrong, falsely boosted, picture of the project, and hence this is a deceitful strategy.
This is what crooks do, really. Deceive people.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Terminated.
September 19, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
#20
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.
That's a non-argument. At any given point in time, there is an overwhelming amount of users that need to be tagged (but still aren't). If you have free time and are willing to, compile a list and post it here.
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 06:18:17 PM
#19
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.

Because they don't even know what they are doing. Let them have their power trip in peace since they don't even bother answering my question. This forum is going downhill for sure.
legendary
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Get your game girl
September 18, 2018, 05:54:26 PM
#18
I'm not sure why a thread was opened against this specific user but there are tons of similar threads in the Digital Goods/Services sections which offer exact same services. @Op, you should probably check them out and get them tagged as well.
legendary
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Terminated.
September 18, 2018, 04:40:14 PM
#17
I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.
Relative privation fallacy, false equivalence fallacy, appeal to emotion; you name it. Roll Eyes

What is difference between seller and buyer in this case?
There really isn't; buying or selling fraudulent market should face similar consequences.
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 04:39:29 PM
#16
I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.
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Yeah, I'm asking you to answer me, not anyone else. Nothing needs moving in another direction, members can say what they want about my case I can't stop them lol. I'm just interested in your answer? How is advertising gambling sites for money moral(since it's not legal in some places), but fake followers are not?

EDIT: Ah, thanks Lauda. I see you are the first to tag me. Good job losing another member.
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
#15
I would suggest everyone not to respond to Ludji's post, as they are trying to move this topic in other direction.

Do you know of any accounts tagged for any of the listed services?
Well, for something similar.

Before I opened this topic I looked something in my trust wall and I have found this account poutintsev which was tagged for buying such service(well, not by me, i tagged them for something similar...).

Reference(3 out of 4) is pointing to this thread:

I'm looking for a person who can upvote posts on different subreddits.
I also need you to make the post as I don't have an account with enough karma.
Will also buy Reddit account with karma.
Contact me with your price-list and terms.
Skype: filip.poutintsev
Telegram: @poutintsev

It seems Ludji sold this service to poutintsev(account isn't mentioned):

This service is legit. Seller is honest.

Thank you for the review. This user received 200 reddit upvotes in less then 24 hours. Anyone interested message me on Telegram @najludji

I've found this post:
Contact me on @najludji Telegram, I can provide anything reddit related: comments/upvotes/subscribers

And also, Ludji is selling reddit accounts(it is somewhere in links provided in first post):

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Like the title says, I'm providing tons of Reddit accounts from brand new, up to 8 years old!. I have accounts with both high and low karma, so hit me up with a message and tell me what you need.
I'm constantly renewing my stock, so if I lack something today, it doesn't mean I won't have it tomorrow.
Also, feel free to message me if you need something posted to certain subreddits.
I also offer upvotes and Reddit subscribers

What is difference between seller and buyer in this case?
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 04:29:29 PM
#14
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I answered all of your questions in the above posts. Actually, there is a very big difference between selling and wanting to sell if you are already bringing that point up, but it's not important now. I've said what I had to say if someone really thinks this deserves a neg, so be it. Meanwhile, still waiting for the OP to answer me since he believes he's the right person to go around accusing people..
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 03:48:59 PM
#13

Obviously his service consider spam for me. Especially selling email list. Question is from where  he got list. He is permitted to sold others email ? Usually email form any ICO or crypto related website. Email collected from scam ICO or hacked database. And it's not really a decent service.

I haven't sold it to anyone, 0 sales. It was obtained from a marketing agency, has nothing to do with this forum. Also, as I've said, feel free to tag me, I'm done here. Huge disappointment.

There is not different sold and seeking for sold. You are advertising your service for sale. Where you buy from but question what is the source. It's can be handover. Just like you bought form others than you are seeking for sale. Do you have writing permission from that agency to sale email list ? Than same question will goes to agency. Eventually question goes to end user, I mean owner of email. Than obviously answers will no. Someone will never give permission to sale his email. On the other hand how you confirm that all email user is crypto user ?
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 01:35:38 PM
#12
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I think you are a very aggressive and rude person. I've seen your other posts, you can't stand not calling someone names. Just because the "forum is brutal" doesn't mean you shouldn't have manners, which you obviously don't, at least on this forum. Still, I appreciate you typing this out and understand your message. I already wrote in the reply above that I locked the thread recently and am sorry for selling it here. Also, I wasn't just called out for the e-mails, so I still think this is a total joke.

Also, you say this is not the dark market(followers are not sold on the dark market lol, neither are mailing lists for advertising purposes), but still you advertise a mixer in your signature? Hillarious. You realize very well for what that's used mainly since normal users do not require that level of "privacy". Like I've said, don't be hypocrites guys.

But please, I'd like an answer from the OP regarding what I told him about gambling and about his moral compass or am I not allowed to question his behaviour?  Roll Eyes

Still waiting for the response.

legendary
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Cashback 15%
September 18, 2018, 01:25:37 PM
#11
You outright insult me and that's okay with everyone?
Man, this forum is brutal.  A couple years ago I was on the receiving end of a smackdown by some senior members (though I don't have a link for it) and in addition I had TECSHARE chasing me all over the forum--including on my trust page--after some disagreement, the details of which I don't even recall.  

You either roll with it and grow or you give up.  I chose not to give up.  So far I don't think you've done anything that would irreparably damage your reputation here, but you have to realize that bitcointalk isn't the dark market where people appreciate e-mail lists being sold or spam services being offered.  It might not be against the rules, but it goes against the etiquette of the forum.  This could change, of course, just like account selling used to be A-OK, but right now the stuff you're trying to sell is frowned upon.

The troll comment was for that other thread with you arguing with Lauda.  

This thread is not about me but I want to tell you, I started off here in kind of the same fashion:

If you think I was making fun of autistics, you need to get out more.  I was expressing an honest opinion, and autistics don't get a free pass in life where they're immune from criticism, especially on the internet.  Nor do Jews or Puerto Ricans or anyone else.  If you don't like my opinion, please stick five fingers in your mouth until you turn colors.  Six fingers if you're autistic.
Oh, cry me a river.  I read so much garbage on this forum by idiots who 1) Don't speak English, and 2) Write nonsense for their signature campaigns.  More bans are needed here.  Seriously, the quality of posts is atrocious and this whole forum is like the tower of Babel with retards encircling it.  
Holy mother of Christ, your post made absolutely no sense.  Read it, and read it again there, Mr. umaOuma.  I don't mean any offense, but I see this bottom-feeding, t-shirt dribbling nonsense all over bitcointalk and it makes me wonder what the major demographic is here.  16-28 year old tard-blaster from a country where the roads aren't paved and executions are carried out in the town square, I believe.  Am I warm?

....then I mellowed out over time and stopped the trolling behavior after I got a clear picture of what bitcointalk is all about.  In my early days I had quite a few posts being deleted, too.  In your case, though, I would advise you not to try to sell stuff that could be looked at as having even the hint of being shady.  

It might seem like an oppressive place, but many members here are just trying to clean it up and not have it be spammy or scammy.

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I think you are a very aggressive and rude person. I've seen your other posts, you can't stand not calling someone names.
Fair enough.  And the only reason I took the time to write the above post was because I don't think you're beyond what this forum considers redemption--and you're not a typical shitposter, either.
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