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jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 01:10:05 PM
#10
This type of list is never obtained with the consent of the email owner. It's not even something hidden and everyone knows this. You have to be naive to believe in something else. Such lists are usually collected by scrapers, hacked accounts lists, or bought from another business.
Most of the agencies online use such methods

I understand and already acknowledged my mistake in another thread. But by all means, is this a reason to outright insult me and start a thread? If you notice I've also already locked the e-mail thread. I made 0 sales and I'm glad I did, it was a mistake. I have a marketing background and saw nothing wrong in the act of selling them as it's quite common.

But why are people being hypocrites? Everyone here is so moral and perfect, yet everyone has advertised gambling, which they seem to think is great, including the OP. It's illegal in some states, why is nobody talking about it? Yeah, it's much easier to attack me(a Jr. Member) than one of the higher ranking guys, I totally agree. So enjoy, insult me like Pharmacist or call me out like marloboroza, I'm fine with both. I have my moral compass straight and I'm sure of that. The OP, on the other hand, might want to rethink his life seeing as he enjoys advertising gambling sites so he can earn a few bucks of commission from them.

copper member
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September 18, 2018, 01:03:00 PM
#9
This type of list is never obtained with the consent of the email owner. It's not even something hidden and everyone knows this. You have to be naive to believe in something else. Such lists are usually collected by scrapers, hacked accounts lists, or bought from another business.
Most of the agencies online use such methods
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
September 18, 2018, 12:26:32 PM
#8

But then where did they get the list from? You probably have no idea where the emails originally came from and it's very likely the were collected/collated without the users consent. The agency probably got it from either some dodgy crypto site or ICO that required emails and sold them on or the hacked forum database or any of the other multiple bitcoin sites or exchanges that have been hacked or breached in the past.

I don't know how they got them, but I doubt it's anything hacked or they would go out of business pretty soon, as everyone has those lists.

Also, what is this supposed to mean?

Ludji is kind of a miserable little troll, looking to do the easiest job in life behind a keyboard--very much like bounty spammers do.

You outright insult me and that's okay with everyone?
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 12:19:35 PM
#7
It was obtained from a marketing agency, has nothing to do with this forum.

But then where did they get the list from? You probably have no idea where the emails originally came from and it's very likely the were collected/collated without the users consent. The agency probably got it from either some dodgy crypto site or ICO that required emails and sold them on or the hacked forum database or any of the other multiple bitcoin sites or exchanges that have been hacked or breached in the past.
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
#6

Well where have these email addresses come from and how were they obtained? I'd say there's a very good chance they were obtained in some nefarious and shady way and the users on them probably didn't consent to them being sold on to anyone who is willing to pay for them. If they did consent then I guess that's on them.

It is unclear whether there is precedence here. Do you know of any accounts tagged for any of the listed services?

I've tagged plenty that have spammed my email address with ICO offers as they have clearly bought the hacked account email dump from this forum from somewhere.

Does anyone have the list he was selling? If my email from this forum is on there I would certainly leave negative feedback.

I haven't sold it to anyone, 0 sales. It was obtained from a marketing agency, has nothing to do with this forum. Also, as I've said, feel free to tag me, I'm done here. Huge disappointment.
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 12:11:39 PM
#5
Like the title says, I'm selling an e-mail list to which you can promote your projects/ICOs. The list is only targeted crypto enthusiasts, so if you know how to promote your product, you will get high conversion. Message me on Telegram @najludji for any questions. Price is negotiable depending on how much e-mails you want delivered.

Well where have these email addresses come from and how were they obtained? I'd say there's a very good chance they were obtained in some nefarious and shady way and the users on them probably didn't consent to them being sold on to anyone who is willing to pay for them. If they did consent then I guess that's on them.

It is unclear whether there is precedence here. Do you know of any accounts tagged for any of the listed services?

I've tagged plenty that have spammed my email address with ICO offers as they have clearly bought the hacked account email dump from this forum from somewhere.

Does anyone have the list he was selling? If my email from this forum is on there I would certainly leave negative feedback.
jr. member
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September 18, 2018, 11:50:56 AM
#4
So selling anything is bad here? I try to help the forum as much as I can and you accuse me of selling spam services? These are services any internet marketer needs and I see no reason to not offer them. Fuck you guys honestly. I haven't cheated anyone, haven't done anything dishonest, haven't claimed anything that's not true in my threads and you decide to make a thread about me? Well done, this forum is really going places.

I really wanted to be a valuable member for your information, but now I don't care anymore. Give me neg trust if you want, I don't plan on contributing anymore. Good luck with having a forum of 10 people if that's what you want.

Also, half the high ranking members have gambling sites in their signature and everybody is fine with that. I'm a hard opposer of gambling, but I don't fcking make threads about those members, even though it's not moral at all and illegal in some states!. So it's better to advertise gambling than Social Media Services?

I see marlboroza also likes gambling, thread from 2017 where he is looking for the best way to promote a gambling site:

I need best ad network for gambling site

Fucking loser, people lose homes to gambling and that's okay with you. But fake followers are not?

legendary
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September 18, 2018, 11:50:04 AM
#3
It is unclear whether there is precedence here. Do you know of any accounts tagged for any of the listed services?
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 11:43:08 AM
#2
I got asked about him, and yeah he's basically offering spam and other dishonest services, in so far as fake likes and views are dishonest.

I don't think what he's offering here rises to the level of deserving a negative, though.  If he did indeed offer something like an ICO bumping brigade, then it'd be a different story.  That's my opinion, but I certainly would respect someone who didn't view it that way.  Ludji is kind of a miserable little troll, looking to do the easiest job in life behind a keyboard--very much like bounty spammers do.

Everyone should be wary of these things that can be manipulated online, like product reviews, likes, eBay trust, and all of that.  I tend to be very skeptical, but I'm sure lots of people take things at face value.
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