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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 02, 2023, 02:12:41 AM

As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.

I can easily post 2 or 3 times in just 5 minutes. It all depends on what topics I'm participating in.
The relevant thing here is the posts we make and not the response time between one or two posts.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 30, 2023, 02:55:42 PM

Quote from: speedy963 on March 30, 2023, 02:56:36 AM

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

Perhaps my example is not the best. Roll Eyes

But giving the example of last week.
Last week I made 102 posts, which is an average of 14~15 posts per day. But there are days when I make less than 10 posts and I have days when I make more than 20 posts.

Honestly, I don't care much if I post a lot in a day or a little, although I like to keep track of the numbers, I just focus on posting on topics that I think I have something to say.

It's true that most of my posts are in the local tab, but my tab mates don't complain and like my participation (at least that's what they say Tongue

), so I think I make posts with some level of quality, within what it is acceptable.

I think there is no problem if you can accumulate a lot of posts in one day, as long as it doesn't become spammy in the topic you enter and you follow the policies of the forum, it's probably okay.

As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.

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Quote from: KingsDen on May 01, 2023, 02:26:00 PM

I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins

I think the OP should be able to jump to conclusions after creating this thread and lock it instead of leaving it open all the time.

Burst posts isn't something against the forum rules, it's just not expected when you're in any kind of campaign. Campaign managers don't like that, and of course they expect participants to have some downtime to create meaningful posts instead of completing their weekly quota in a day or two. Spam tends to have to be reported, it's not expected because it's against the rules, while quality posts have to be maintained even if the duration between one post and another doesn't have more than 5 minutes gap.

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I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins

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Quote from: Agbe on May 01, 2023, 11:47:02 AM

Quote from: skarais on April 28, 2023, 06:08:53 AM

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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

Of course you need to follow the instructions of every manager who recruits you as a participant in the campaign they manage, but they can't prevent you from posting more than the number of posts that are paid for. There's nothing restricting you from posting if you are a high quality poster, so posting bursts will probably be handled on case by case basis by the manager, I mean if you are a high quality poster.

Managers definitely expect you to share quality posts, you also need to pay attention to good visibility, especially between one post and the next, however, you are free to post from any distance as long as it is of high quality.

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Quote from: Agbe on May 01, 2023, 11:47:02 AM

If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

There are no restrictions to the number of posts any member can submit in a day whether the member is in a campaign or not. The campaign manager will not restrict you from posting on any board but the campaign guidelines stipulate the boards that they want participants to post in and the number that will be accepted or counted per day. But you are free to post on any board but you must ensure that you complete your post in the stipulated boards to get your reward.

Campaign managers make these rules because the product or service participants are expected to promote have targeted clients and most of them can be found in large numbers on some specific boards. Also, some sections of the forum don't display signatures, so posting there is needless. Limiting the number of posts per day is to ensure that campaign participants are active on most days of the week. If don't make such rules some participants might decide to complete their weekly quota in one or two days.

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Quote from: Agbe on May 01, 2023, 11:47:02 AM

If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

If any manager said I have to escape posting in any section or not posting as many posts as I have something to say I'd be very angry. But no, no one does so. When they mention some sections that means they will not count posts in those sections for payment, and that's all. I can post in there as much as I want. When they say no more than 4 or 5 posts a day it means the same: if I do more posts they just count not more than the mentioned number a day. It is usually made not to get all posts in a single day from some campaign participant.

I don't remember I ever met any manager that had any restrictions on campaign participants posting. They just don't count some posts and it's okay.

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Quote from: skarais on April 28, 2023, 06:08:53 AM

Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 28, 2023, 05:09:08 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on April 28, 2023, 03:29:33 AM

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.

What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.

If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 28, 2023, 05:09:08 AM

Quote from: OcTradism on April 28, 2023, 03:29:33 AM

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.

What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.

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Quote from: OcTradism on April 28, 2023, 03:29:33 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on April 28, 2023, 03:17:11 AM

If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.

Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

You're all right about this, no matter how fast a person can type on a key board, at least it is expected of such person to first read through a post and understand it before giving a reply or comment on that thread, which on an average takes nothing less than 3 minutes to do so but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.

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Quote from: OcTradism on April 28, 2023, 03:29:33 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on April 28, 2023, 03:17:11 AM

If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.

Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.
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Right, and that's why my second sentence was about whom to check and not whom to blame. If someone posts usually too quickly it can be a reason to check his posts. If posts are okay it is not a problem by itself. It is just a possible marker of a probability of a problem. But it should definitely not be a recomendation how to comminicate on the forum; while in the boundaries of the rules the one can post the way he wishes.

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Quote from: jokers10 on April 28, 2023, 03:17:11 AM

If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.

Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on April 25, 2023, 12:16:33 AM

As far as I understand, burst post basically means posting quickly. A lot of forums are spammed especially by excessive posting. Since you post 15 - 30 minutes between 8 hours and 12 hours every day, you definitely post burst. You should keep a post gap of at least one hour per day and 12 to 13 posts in 12 hours per day will be enough for you. and if you post with this in mind, your posts will not be spam or brust posts.
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable. As this way we can try to indicate whom to check. But when we start talking about which time gaps to make between own posts it is no more discussion about post quality, it is a discussion about how to imitate post quality. Nonsense! If I have something to say I will never look at clock to count if enough time past, I will say it when I have something to say. And if there is nothing to be said at all it is better not to say anything and not just to imitate quality with gaps and quantity and... what else should be there?

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Post bursting differs in some situation, if you are following a discussion on a thread, your posting interval may not be up to 30 minutes. What is considered is how quality the post looks. Post bursting seem like low quality posts published within few time intervals from the previous posts, in other word its spamming the forum for personal gains, not necessarily signature campaign. Members can post as many as they could in a day, and I've observed some quality posters who post multiple amount of posts in a day that's no crime in my view.

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Quote from: speedy963 on March 30, 2023, 02:56:36 AM

I think this question is appropriate in this section. I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

As far as I understand, burst post basically means posting quickly. A lot of forums are spammed especially by excessive posting. Since you post 15 - 30 minutes between 8 hours and 12 hours every day, you definitely post burst. You should keep a post gap of at least one hour per day and 12 to 13 posts in 12 hours per day will be enough for you. and if you post with this in mind, your posts will not be spam or brust posts.

Quote from: speedy963 on March 30, 2023, 02:56:36 AM

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

I keep the post gaffe to a minimum of one hour on the statistics I post daily. and I post my daily post 8-10 so I think my burst post and spamming will not happen. I believe postings following these rules will not be considered spamming or burst posts.

Quote from: speedy963 on March 30, 2023, 02:56:36 AM

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?

It is very important to follow one rule for each thing. It's best to maintain a routine of posting to the forum every day on that regret. Especially if you keep post gap while posting daily then it won't count as spamming for you. So I think it would be best to post a minimum of 1 hour per post every day.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on April 24, 2023, 02:56:35 PM

In addition to what has already been mentioned, as a newbie I have seen some individuals strive to meet the requisite number of posts in a campaign in a short amount of time, which results in them having bad postings and some of them getting abounded.
This is due to their lack of concentration and the fact that they are only here to make money rather than have an influence

As a newbie, I never expected such deep thoughts haha like seriously! At some level, your observations are right about the people who do that or I would like to say the account that posts in such a way is highly possible that they are the alt-accounts to make more money. Not every campaign poster is doing such things some of them really post-natural and quality content. Observations vary from person to person but I would like to recommend spending more time asking questions and answering them it will increase your learning skills. It's not hard to really post 5 to 9 posts a day in a natural way. Now from the last 2 to 3 weeks in the regular section where I post regularly topics getting more likely repeated and reviews are making shit topics, Maximum of the topics posted by the new ones are always nonsense.

Quote from: 348Judah on April 24, 2023, 04:00:07 PM

It's always good to make intervals between posts

I do agree with it but it's not always necessary as some days you start posting in flow which I think should not be considered as burst posting. This a fact that the in best posted posts you can easily identify the count making approach of the posters because he will try to put extra useless words to make it leanghty or starts try to trick somehow to avoid the palgrism and spaming.

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It's always good to make intervals between posts, the first one is to always allow others to make reply on the same thread you posted to before making another post on same thread, this is one of the ways to avoid bursting posts, the second way to avoid it is to always put time intervals between posts, which means you can't just make about 4 to 5 Posts within 4 minutes or less, it could means that your post content is a low quality post or rather such user may be using an artificial bot system in making his post, because before you can make any post, you are expected to have read through and understand the topic content before making your own post under the thread, any off topic post of such related from th above discussed way of postings may be regarded as post bursting ir spamming.

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Quote from: jokers10 on April 24, 2023, 03:18:52 PM

If I'm interested in the topic and have something to say, if the discussion is active, then I see no reason to count number of posts. I guess it was over 50 a day when I was passionate. But usually it is not what will happen every day. If one day I post tens of posts usually I feel myself tired of posting and make much less next. So there is no average posts amount, it depends on topics I read in exact day.

As long as users are making quality posts then I don't think quantity is much of a concern even if they are creating them every 5 minutes per post. I never expected that users would be so guilty when they can make 50 posts per day with good discussion quality. Even if the campaign manager limits the 4-5 posts per day they pay or count, there is no reason why they should stop you from posting more than the amount they pay per day or per week.

Quote from: jokers10 on April 24, 2023, 03:18:52 PM

If there is a signature I can be a little more motivated, but I feel myself much more comfortable with campaigns without minimum quota as I don't like to feel that posting should be done.

Of course, many people would feel the same way about that.

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Quote from: speedy963 on March 30, 2023, 02:56:36 AM

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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
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If I'm interested in the topic and have something to say, if the discussion is active, then I see no reason to count number of posts. I guess it was over 50 a day when I was passionate. But usually it is not what will happen every day. If one day I post tens of posts usually I feel myself tired of posting and make much less next. So there is no average posts amount, it depends on topics I read in exact day.

If there is a signature I can be a little more motivated, but I feel myself much more comfortable with campaigns without minimum quota as I don't like to feel that posting should be done.

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In addition to what has already been mentioned, as a newbie I have seen some individuals strive to meet the requisite number of posts in a campaign in a short amount of time, which results in them having bad postings and some of them getting abounded.
This is due to their lack of concentration and the fact that they are only here to make money rather than have an influence

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