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Quote from: ABCbits on April 26, 2024, 05:29:25 AM

Quote from: satscraper on April 25, 2024, 11:52:30 AM

Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0

Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.

Sparrow developer also use major number change (1.8.6 to 1.9.0) even though they only remove CoinJoin feature.

Yeah, they did a great work on refining Sparrow wallet. In fact it has almost all I need to deal with bitcoin. What I would want to have else are WalletConnect interface and the ability to use OP_RETURN when building send transactions. These features and those ones that wallet has already should cover all my needs.

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Quote from: satscraper on April 25, 2024, 11:52:30 AM

Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0

Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.

Based on my memory, the only up-to-date wallet which support CoinJoin are only Wasabi Wallet and Join Market. Sparrow developer also use major number change (1.8.6 to 1.9.0) even though they only remove CoinJoin feature. For average Bitcoiner, we only can see whether someone decide to fork either Sparrow or Samourai Wallet, while preserving it's CoinJoin feature.

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I definitely don't like it that Sparrow has removed mixing. For me it was a nice to have, but I didn't use it very often or all the time. Sad to see that it's handled like something criminal. But OK the devs aren't paid to maintain and develop the software and that alone is likely some hassle. I have to accept that they don't want and need any legal trouble.

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Quote from: satscraper on April 25, 2024, 11:52:30 AM

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

JFC.

I can understand Sparrow Wallet wanting to reduce their liability, but damn, are we going to consider Whirlpool malicious software now?

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Quote from: apogio on April 25, 2024, 12:00:25 PM

Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow

Sure, it is a wise movement to prevent the risk of being caught in the neck by feds, good riddance!

Quote from: apogio on April 25, 2024, 12:00:25 PM

I prefer to lose the whirlpool feature, rather than losing the wallet.

So do I. To be frankly I have never used it because I think such mixing results in the illusion of improved privacy, thus there's no feeling of deprivation.

Sparrow allows PayNym payments, which serve better in this respect.

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Quote from: satscraper on April 25, 2024, 11:52:30 AM

Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.

I prefer to lose the whirlpool feature, rather than losing the wallet.
Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow

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Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0

Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.

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and the next release is out today.
the 1.8.6 version includes the following new features

wallet search improvements
all open wallets summary
mix from postmix
import Samourai backup file

there are numerous other new functions and various bug fixes. you can read all about them under the following link and also find the download files there: https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/1.8.6

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Quote from: cygan on April 11, 2024, 09:18:43 AM

sparrow has published a new release today
version 1.8.5 includes the following new features:

whirlpool over decentralized soroban

--snip--

I didn't expect they'd implement it quickly. After all, Samourai only announce it on their wallet last month[1].

Quote from: zabzob on April 12, 2024, 05:38:42 AM

Another question I have (which I don't see answered on Sparrow site) is whether it's advisable to run the Electrum server on the same laptop that Sparrow (and Bitcoin full node) is running on. I remember reading somewhere (forget where) that doing that can cause security/privacy issues and it's better to run Electrum server on separate hardware. Is this the case?

At least for privacy issue, other people might say that since spying company could find out which node/IP address broadcast certain transaction for first time. In this case, configuring Bitcoin Core to use VPN or Tor should solve the issue.

[1] https://blog.samourai.is/decentralized-whirlpool-stage-1/[/list]

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Quote from: zabzob on April 13, 2024, 08:02:19 AM

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I run a dedicated energy efficient device 24/7 for my personal Electrum server on a Raspi 4B 8GB RAM and a 1TB SSD as storage device. Based on a RaspiBlitz node with little mods my Electrum server is Fulcrum. Basically my RaspiBlitz runs a headless bitcoind (as Core), Fulcrum as Electrum server and LND as Lightning node.

As an experimental playground I have another Raspi 4B which runs an Umbrel node which has electrs as Electrum server component. This Umbrel Electrum server can easily be accessed via local network and Tor from outside if necessary.

I run any wallet software, be it a software wallet or to communicate with hardware wallet devices, on a different dedicated computer in my local network. This Linux box is only for wallet software (Electrum, Sparrow, BitBox app, Trezor suite, Bisq) and not used for daily internet stuff.

No particular recommendation, just my personal setup.

Thanks for sharing, that looks like a robust setup.

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Quote from: zabzob on April 13, 2024, 08:02:19 AM

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I run a dedicated energy efficient device 24/7 for my personal Electrum server on a Raspi 4B 8GB RAM and a 1TB SSD as storage device. Based on a RaspiBlitz node with little mods my Electrum server is Fulcrum. Basically my RaspiBlitz runs a headless bitcoind (as Core), Fulcrum as Electrum server and LND as Lightning node.

As an experimental playground I have another Raspi 4B which runs an Umbrel node which has electrs as Electrum server component. This Umbrel Electrum server can easily be accessed via local network and Tor from outside if necessary.

I run any wallet software, be it a software wallet or to communicate with hardware wallet devices, on a different dedicated computer in my local network. This Linux box is only for wallet software (Electrum, Sparrow, BitBox app, Trezor suite, Bisq) and not used for daily internet stuff.

No particular recommendation, just my personal setup.

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Quote from: Cricktor on April 12, 2024, 02:22:36 PM

Quote from: zabzob on April 12, 2024, 05:38:42 AM

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The setup of an Electrum server is off-topic to this thread regardless if you want to use it specifically for a Sparrow wallet. If you dare to use the forum's search, it doesn't hurt by the way, you will find a few threads that discuss various Electrum servers (let me throw in Fulcrum as another option) and also provide valuable instructions how to setup one.

If you dislike the built-in forum's search, try https://ninjastic.space/search instead...

Thanks for the reply and info--Fulcrum looks like the way to go. Didn't mean to be off-topic, I'll look elsewhere for info on setting up an Electrum server. I don't think my second question is off-topic though, since it's asking a specific question about how best to set up a server for use with Sparrow (i.e. is it safe to install both on a single device). But I will search for answers to this question as well.

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Quote from: zabzob on April 12, 2024, 05:38:42 AM

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The setup of an Electrum server is off-topic to this thread regardless if you want to use it specifically for a Sparrow wallet. If you dare to use the forum's search, it doesn't hurt by the way, you will find a few threads that discuss various Electrum servers (let me throw in Fulcrum as another option) and also provide valuable instructions how to setup one.

If you dislike the built-in forum's search, try https://ninjastic.space/search instead...

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Is there a good tutorial out there on how to set up an Electrum server to use with a Sparrow wallet? There's a guide on the Sparrow website for setting up a server with ElectrumX, but I'm wondering whether that's the best option? Is there any reason to use ElectrumX instead of other options like Electrum-Server or Electrs?

Another question I have (which I don't see answered on Sparrow site) is whether it's advisable to run the Electrum server on the same laptop that Sparrow (and Bitcoin full node) is running on. I remember reading somewhere (forget where) that doing that can cause security/privacy issues and it's better to run Electrum server on separate hardware. Is this the case?

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sparrow has published a new release today
version 1.8.5 includes the following new features:

whirlpool over decentralized soroban
faster initial server connections
restart in a different home folder
upgrade to hwi 3.0.0

the complete changelog can be found in the github link: https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/1.8.5
you can also download the new version for your os there as well as on the official website: https://sparrowwallet.com/download/

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Quote from: shield132 on April 09, 2024, 10:49:23 AM

Today I tried to download Sparrow Wallet again and the speed was improved but there were limits on download. There is definitely a problem on their side. I'll try to contact them and let them know about this issue.

If you are the only one reporting this problem than issue can't be on their side.
Download is working fine for me, and it's not the first time I did that, but you can always use alternative option and download Sparrow from their official github page:
https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases

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Quote from: shield132 on April 09, 2024, 10:49:23 AM

Quote from: Cricktor on April 07, 2024, 06:02:42 PM

Maybe you experienced some temporary or local Github connectivity issues. And nobody except you can know what's going on in your local network.

20min for the download of ~100MB doesn't sound any fast either, but Eleutheria didn't mention any details of personal internet connection. Such a download time could happen when you only have something like 1MBit/s downstream.

Today I tried to download Sparrow Wallet again and the speed was improved but there were limits on download. There is definitely a problem on their side. I'll try to contact them and let them know about this issue.

I tried download it just now, but it use my maximum internet speed. It's likely their server was overloaded, although there's small chance your ISP throttle your connection. Next time you experience this problem, you might want to use VPN and see whether you still experience slow download speed.

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Quote from: Eleutheria on April 07, 2024, 09:17:30 AM

Quote from: shield132 on April 07, 2024, 06:12:49 AM

Now the problem is that it takes almost one day to download the wallet while filesize is up to 98 MB. For some reasons, their servers don't let me to download it with normal internet speed and limit my download speed significantly.

I just downloaded it now and it took roughly 20 minutes to download with my personal internet connection. I do not think it is their server limiting your download speed and surely not intentionally. Could be an overload on available connections on the web server or some other reason.
Try clearing your cache and try again.

20 minutes is too much for 98 MB file unless you are using a cheap DSL internet with low speed and I personally use fiber optic and my speed is 100 Mbps. It should be downloaded in seconds instead of hours.
I finally managed to download it in one hour instead of a day. Thanks god, speed improved a little.

Quote from: Cricktor on April 07, 2024, 06:02:42 PM

Maybe you experienced some temporary or local Github connectivity issues. And nobody except you can know what's going on in your local network.

20min for the download of ~100MB doesn't sound any fast either, but Eleutheria didn't mention any details of personal internet connection. Such a download time could happen when you only have something like 1MBit/s downstream.

Today I tried to download Sparrow Wallet again and the speed was improved but there were limits on download. There is definitely a problem on their side. I'll try to contact them and let them know about this issue.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 07, 2024, 06:12:49 AM

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All download links at https://sparrowwallet.com/download/ point to Github links like https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/download//. I just checked the Windows Installer download file link and it took me only 10+ seconds to download the file (download was finished after I chose the save file location as my browser is setup to always ask where to save a download file; I have a stable 100MBit/s downstream internet speed).

Maybe you experienced some temporary or local Github connectivity issues. And nobody except you can know what's going on in your local network.

20min for the download of ~100MB doesn't sound any fast either, but Eleutheria didn't mention any details of personal internet connection. Such a download time could happen when you only have something like 1MBit/s downstream.

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Quote from: shield132 on April 07, 2024, 06:12:49 AM

Now the problem is that it takes almost one day to download the wallet while filesize is up to 98 MB. For some reasons, their servers don't let me to download it with normal internet speed and limit my download speed significantly.

I just downloaded it now and it took roughly 20 minutes to download with my personal internet connection. I do not think it is their server limiting your download speed and surely not intentionally. Could be an overload on available connections on the web server or some other reason.
Try clearing your cache and try again.

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