Very nice to see Sparrow wallet fixing many bugs and adding full support for SLIP39 format and for Trezor 5 hardware wallet.
Few days ago I created a topic with all bitcoin wallets supporting SLIP39 and Sparrow wallet is also included there.
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Definitely all new features brought by the newest 2.0.0 release are valuable but among all of them I would highlight the following:
Sighash none (which signs all inputs in relevant transaction but no outputs) is a very dangerous flag which (when selected) may result in the wrong fund destination. Thus a pertaining warning is more than welcomed.
Warning about fee rate that is beyond its maximum limit (established by Sparrow) is also of great importance as it mitigates the risk of loosing funds for inattentive users. The last case seems to be happened recently when user payed 0.7BTC as a fee
- "Show a warning dialog when sighash none is selected"
- "Show a warning dialog on broadcast if a transaction has a fee rate beyond the range slider maximum"
Sighash none (which signs all inputs in relevant transaction but no outputs) is a very dangerous flag which (when selected) may result in the wrong fund destination. Thus a pertaining warning is more than welcomed.
Warning about fee rate that is beyond its maximum limit (established by Sparrow) is also of great importance as it mitigates the risk of loosing funds for inattentive users. The last case seems to be happened recently when user payed 0.7BTC as a fee
Quote from: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5509073
version 2.0.0 of the Sparrow wallet has been released today!
there is now support for the hardware wallets Trezor safe 5 and for Ledger stax and flex and there are also the following new features/updates:
the complete changelog as well as the download files for the new version can be found in the github link
https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/2.0.0
there is now support for the hardware wallets Trezor safe 5 and for Ledger stax and flex and there are also the following new features/updates:
- slip39 shares recovery
- update to java and javafx 22
the complete changelog as well as the download files for the new version can be found in the github link
https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/2.0.0
New release after 3 weeks slack period and retreat from wirlpool
I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and Samourai have it, which ones else?
Besides Sparrow and Samourai wallets, it's apparently also used by Stack Wallet. Also, Blue Wallet uses it partially, only to receive payments. This is the data I see in The Bitcoin Hole's software wallet reviews. 
Sparrow and Samourai have it, which ones else?
The more wallets add PayNyms the faster adoption of this payment scheme within Bitcoin community.
The more wallets add PayNyms the faster adoption of this payment scheme within Bitcoin community.
According to my research, only these 2 support paynyms.
I think Sparrow has always been innovative with new features.
Craig Raw said in a podcast that they try to incorporate the features that they think are beneficial for the great majority of Bitcoiners.
But, then, it's on the user to actually use them!
I have tried paynyms and it worked smoothly, but it was more like a feature experiment to use them, rather than to actually get paid.
That's another reason why I run my own node for my wallets and for my own Electrum server. I know what going on with my node and I don't need to rely on foreign and unknown other nodes to submit a transaction from my wallet or when my Electrum or Sparrow wallet has to inquire transaction history and transaction updates.
I know, my own Electrum server doesn't collect my wallet's addresses for nefarious address analysis purposes.
I value my privacy.
Running your own node is the most underrated thing in Bitcoin world. Everyone talks about using a mixer, coinjoin, etc but people rarely talk about the importance of running your own node (or at least using a proxy when you are connected to other node).I know, my own Electrum server doesn't collect my wallet's addresses for nefarious address analysis purposes.
I value my privacy.
But if government seriously wants to stop something and make it look bad, they will do it one way or another.
It's easy to manipulate, especially for governments, that owns all the media resources and collects data about each people. No one talks about JP Morgan and other banks where billions of money is laundered but somehow Bitcoin becomes the major source of illegal money. Just ask anyone who isn't in cryptos, what they think about Bitcoin and majority of them will tell you that it's used for money laundering and illegal purchases while ask them about JP Morgan or Deutsche Bank and they'll tell you that these are official, government regulated banks. They completely ignore that these big banks are the main source of money laundering. I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and Samourai have it, which ones else?
Maybe it's not popular enough. I came up with a conclusion that privacy doesn't matter much for many people and for those whom matters, use Monero instead of Bitcoin. On common sense and wisdom rather on fear. Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good feature, namely PayNym, that allows to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature rather than the whole wallet.
PayNyms exist for years but I still don't know anyone who is using them for any payments 
This fact proves that PayNyms is indeed very good for privacy - no one (even dkbit98
), except contractors themselves, can identify who use it and who behind it because those reusable codes do not publicly glued to addresses. I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and Samourai have it, which ones else?The more wallets add PayNyms the faster adoption of this payment scheme within Bitcoin community.
On common sense and wisdom rather on fear. Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good feature, namely PayNym, that allows to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature rather than the whole wallet.
PayNyms exist for years but I still don't know anyone who is using them for any payments I don't think Sparrow developers took any earnings from whirlpool integration and they didn't charge any fees for this, unlike samourai developers, so they should not be in any danger.
But if government seriously wants to stop something and make it look bad, they will do it one way or another.
is the remove whirlpool client on the release version 1.9.0 based on fear?
On common sense and wisdom rather on fear. Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good feature, namely PayNym, that allows to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature rather than the whole wallet.
Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
I know that whirlpool is used to help prevent people from tracking transaction movements[1]. I know that Whirlpool was made by the Samourai Wallet Development Team and was an implementation of Zerolink coinjoin[2].
When the party who has the power to make a decision as was done on Samourai, Sparrow also moved to remove the whirlpool client in the release version 1.9.0. I think this is an attempt to be made to avoid the desired thing. In addition, is the remove whirlpool client on the release version 1.9.0 based on fear?
[1]. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/how-to-whirlpool-bitcoin-sparrow-wallet
[2]. https://bitcoiner.guide/whirlpool/
It's like, losing a hand vs losing a life.
Well, kind of exaggeration, but I agree it would be a loss to lose Sparrow wallet forever.
However, luckily, Bitcoin is open-source, just like most of the reputable wallets that you can use.
So, I am certain that there will be other wallets in the future that will gain significant popularity.
Don't forget that most people don't even use self-custodial wallets... So...
That's another reason why I run my own node for my wallets and for my own Electrum server. I know what going on with my node and I don't need to rely on foreign and unknown other nodes to submit a transaction from my wallet or when my Electrum or Sparrow wallet has to inquire transaction history and transaction updates.
I know, my own Electrum server doesn't collect my wallet's addresses for nefarious address analysis purposes.
I value my privacy.
I know, my own Electrum server doesn't collect my wallet's addresses for nefarious address analysis purposes.
I value my privacy.
Can anyone tell me why did that happen? Why Sparrow didn't broadcast my transaction? It showed me that it did. Btw Electrum has never failed me.
To broadcast transaction Sparrow must be connected to node, either yours or public one.
Probably in your setup Sparrow was connected to public node, sent to this node your transaction but there was a problem with that node, so the transaction has actually not been broadcast to net.
I prefer to lose the whirlpool feature, rather than losing the wallet.
Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow
It's better to have something compared to having nothing. It would be a big loss if we didn't have Sparrow wallet, so losing the whirlpool feature was better than losing the whole wallet. It's like, losing a hand vs losing a life.Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow
I definitely don't like it that Sparrow has removed mixing. For me it was a nice to have, but I didn't use it very often or all the time.
Like you, I haven't used the mixing feature but it was really a great feature for privacy seekers. A few hours ago I signed and broadcasted a transaction with Sparrow but for some reasons, it wasn't really broadcasted but Sparrow was showing me that it was. I waited an hour, but nothing, the transaction wasn't searchable in the blockchain. Then I input a raw Bitcoin transaction in hex format on Blockchain.com and broadcasted the transaction that way. Then within minutes, my transaction appeared in every blockchain explorer and I also got a confirmation within minutes.
Can anyone tell me why did that happen? Why Sparrow didn't broadcast my transaction? It showed me that it did. Btw Electrum has never failed me.
I prefer to lose the whirlpool feature, rather than losing the wallet.
Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow
I dont think whirlpool is going to survive in the form it worked in last few years, so yes it was only reasonable decision they could do to avoid the same destiny as another wallet with Japanese name Do you think it was a wise choice? The question obviously goes to everyone who have been using Sparrow
However, that doesn't mean that we should now all give up the fight for more privacy on bitcoin just because it's hard and dangerous thing to do.
Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
Sparrow developer also use major number change (1.8.6 to 1.9.0) even though they only remove CoinJoin feature.
Yeah, they did a great work on refining Sparrow wallet. In fact it has almost all I need to deal with bitcoin. What I would want to have else are WalletConnect interface and the ability to use OP_RETURN when building send transactions. These features and those ones that wallet has already should cover all my needs.
Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.
"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".
They also removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.
Based on my memory, the only up-to-date wallet which support CoinJoin are only Wasabi Wallet and Join Market. Sparrow developer also use major number change (1.8.6 to 1.9.0) even though they only remove CoinJoin feature. For average Bitcoiner, we only can see whether someone decide to fork either Sparrow or Samourai Wallet, while preserving it's CoinJoin feature.
I definitely don't like it that Sparrow has removed mixing. For me it was a nice to have, but I didn't use it very often or all the time. Sad to see that it's handled like something criminal. But OK the devs aren't paid to maintain and develop the software and that alone is likely some hassle. I have to accept that they don't want and need any legal trouble.
JFC.
I can understand Sparrow Wallet wanting to reduce their liability, but damn, are we going to consider Whirlpool malicious software now?
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