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Topic: [SPECULATION] Next big thing in online gambling? - page 2. (Read 2511 times)

legendary
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I was thinking about bet on guitar hero player vs player , is it will be fun ?
I didn't see at the moment there is the game like guitar hero go on betting, would very nice to see it.


That would be pretty neat, but the thing is is that I would think that you would have to run through consoles like Xbox and play station to be able to use their games for gambling... Which would be an obvious headache for legal reasons, not to mention gambling legality.
hero member
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how about gamble games from famous movies, books, comics, manga,...

I believe most of those games will anyways be what really exists. They don't just go about creating new games in directing those shows.
sr. member
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how about gamble games from famous movies, books, comics, manga,...
full member
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Like some people said above that all the ideas have already been implemented..i agree to this,i mean there are many games avaliable to gamble not just dice but the thing is all the games are based on luck and after losing much either people gets bored or they start gambling more and become upset and wonder why they gambled in the first place..I would really appreciate some more skills based games based on bitcoins like Chess,8 ball pool etc so even if people lost they don't become much sad and just need to improve thier skills Wink
hero member
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I believe the concept of having gambling enabled in video games could be a big thing. Instead of gambling it would be more along the lines of PvP, but it hasn't been explored before because of payment processors and not every game developer could add it. But with bitcoin, I am sure it is much easier and convenient. Probably we will have something like that soon.

Nope, although with bitcoin pvp game is still hard to attract people because this game will need many people to play. And I think there are no businessman that want open their gambling site just for one short term so this pvp game will not recommend for big thing in online gambling

It won't exactly be PvP . The gambling businesses don't have to take care of it. The game developers and the API developers will be the people splitting the profits from the rakes of the games. Its the volume that will be the major thing to drive this.
legendary
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I believe the concept of having gambling enabled in video games could be a big thing. Instead of gambling it would be more along the lines of PvP, but it hasn't been explored before because of payment processors and not every game developer could add it. But with bitcoin, I am sure it is much easier and convenient. Probably we will have something like that soon.

Nope, although with bitcoin pvp game is still hard to attract people because this game will need many people to play. And I think there are no businessman that want open their gambling site just for one short term so this pvp game will not recommend for big thing in online gambling
legendary
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I was thinking about bet on guitar hero player vs player , is it will be fun ?
I didn't see at the moment there is the game like guitar hero go on betting, would very nice to see it.
legendary
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There not much gambling ideas nowadays as all has been done. but maybe developers should at least consider looking at gambler vs gambler website to which the house just act as an escrow and will only take certain amount as fees.  I really do hope someone will create such site, I belive I have mentioned this before as I don't want to bet on odds.

What kind of gambler vs gambler game is possible anyway? Isn't this concept really what gambling is, you pick a side and bet at it, if you win you get your money at the expense of another gambler betting on the losing side.

All I can think about are skill games, like chess?

Chess is just one, I do play such but I feel like I'm not that good anymore. Not even close to winning a chess game playing with a kid.
Boxing or MMA match is a good one to which we don't bet against the house. If for instance, we agreed to bet against which athlete will win, our btc will be sent over to the house address and then one of us can receive the whole winnings less the amount for the house who serves as an escrow.
legendary
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Next-Gen Trade Racing Metaverse

There not much gambling ideas nowadays as all has been done. but maybe developers should at least consider looking at gambler vs gambler website to which the house just act as an escrow and will only take certain amount as fees.  I really do hope someone will create such site, I belive I have mentioned this before as I don't want to bet on odds.

What kind of gambler vs gambler game is possible anyway? Isn't this concept really what gambling is, you pick a side and bet at it, if you win you get your money at the expense of another gambler betting on the losing side.

All I can think about are skill games, like chess?
legendary
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There not much gambling ideas nowadays as all has been done. but maybe developers should at least consider looking at gambler vs gambler website to which the house just act as an escrow and will only take certain amount as fees.  I really do hope someone will create such site, I belive I have mentioned this before as I don't want to bet on odds.
hero member
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I want to believe that skill-based games will be a new thing, but it seems like they won't be a big thing because there will always be someone who will have more of an edge. It seems like luck is the main thing gamblers want to see.

I think the next thing in online gambling, however, will most likely be fancier slot/dice machines, or we might see thing like coin pushers become a thing, even though that is far harder to do than is probably worth it.

As it currently stands, the Bitcoin gambling scene is fairly saturated with basic sites, and it'll take someone making something flashier to convince anyone to switch whatever site they're comfortable with.
For skill based gambling games to work you'd need some popular network that hosts different kinds of games.
Something like what Pokerstars is for online poker.

I guess poker and BJ are the skill based games...some company tried to have a live feed showing your face and the other players faces in real time (webcam-based online tables — called “Infinivision) but I don't think it got a lot of traction and the site closed up.

That literally is not a feature that anyone is probably looking for. + No ones interested in showing their face online only for a game, specially for bj.
No wonder they closed.
sr. member
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there is the game Dragon's Tale contains dozens of gamble game
hero member
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I believe the concept of having gambling enabled in video games could be a big thing. Instead of gambling it would be more along the lines of PvP, but it hasn't been explored before because of payment processors and not every game developer could add it. But with bitcoin, I am sure it is much easier and convenient. Probably we will have something like that soon.
full member
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Augur prediction market is going to launch in Beta in just a few weeks - think Intrade but decentralized with cryptocurrency. Going to be exciting I think, and open up all types of possibilities along the lines of gambling on most anything.
legendary
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I want to see browser or part of player's software plugin for provably fair poker card dealing.
Because there are always speculations about poker sites RNGs. Including PokerStars.
There is just two problems: First, poker is lesser revenue venture of all gambling sites (dice,casino,sportbook and even bingo). This exclude PokerStars. Second, is BTC price fluctuation. Till there are +/- 50-100 in a months, serious players will stay stick to fiat. Aldo all gambling sites are winning from recreational players mainly.
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
I've got a few ideas, but like some other not-so-rich people, my own site isn't making enough money (for me anyway) to fund the other ideas waiting. And it took me a couple of years before I could start my own site. The years before that, I attempted a few forum-based games, more as an experiment.

I tried to make a provably fair poker game. The idea works. But the players didn't want to play.

I tried to make a lotto game, which lasted about a year. (Mr. RHavar, you could pick some ideas from that thread if you want.)

I've got a few more couple of ideas for casinos, that I believe would be big, but selfishly don't want to share it, hahahaha, so like that other guy, it will just be an idea in my little notebook. I'm thinking, I'll be in a better position in another couple of years to actually try it out, and I'm betting no one else has the same idea. (This is a gamble in itself. Can you imagine if you invented SatoshiDice when it started?)

And since the dawn of investable bitcoin casinos, I've found one way to make gambling provably fair for non-owner investors; at the cost of time. Slow games aren't as exciting as fast games. That's true for sports, for real life, for war, and anything that has some sort of competition.

I mean, no one wants to be a cockroach even if you could survive a nuclear bomb. No one wants to be a plant that can't move. (That's why there's a non-gambling game that has moving plants that fight against slow moving zombies, haha.)

For everyone else, if you have an idea, let me give you an idea of what it would cost to make your game. You would need to spend anywhere between 10 to 20 to 30 BTC (or fiat equivalent) to hire your coder, unless you can code it yourself. When you start out, you will need to buy a few things like your domain ($10 a year), maybe a SSL cert ($5 a year unless you want Extended Validation), and decent hosting ($50 a month for a VPS type of thing, to $100's for a dedicated server or cloud solution or gaming something.)

And then there's marketing.

On top of all that, if it's gambling, either you have to fly under the radar (or be anonymous), or you get the proper licenses, or just be able to run it with some sort of impunity or protection. (Like me, no one is going to hunt me down for my little dice game.)

Here's an experiment, can I invite the readers of this thread to look at my site? It's been out for several months, but if you have never seen it until today, then, well, that's my poor marketing skills (or maybe I really just don't have the time to spend on it like I should be doing.)

When you run a bitcoin game site, it has to be a full time job for you. It's not for me, that's why I'm not making money on it. It's like catch-22, I will run it full time if I make money, but since I'm not making money, I can't run it full time. LOL.

For you people who do have the money to try something, but don't have your own ideas, would you like to take a gamble on my ideas? I've handled money as escrow, and as part of my real life job. I just don't have my own money to do it right now. Honesty system, take my ideas, make it a website, and we'll talk. But to weed out the wannabes, I will need proof (easy, just sign a bitcoin address right?) or reputation or, something else that convinces me.
legendary
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I want to believe that skill-based games will be a new thing, but it seems like they won't be a big thing because there will always be someone who will have more of an edge. It seems like luck is the main thing gamblers want to see.

I think the next thing in online gambling, however, will most likely be fancier slot/dice machines, or we might see thing like coin pushers become a thing, even though that is far harder to do than is probably worth it.

As it currently stands, the Bitcoin gambling scene is fairly saturated with basic sites, and it'll take someone making something flashier to convince anyone to switch whatever site they're comfortable with.
For skill based gambling games to work you'd need some popular network that hosts different kinds of games.
Something like what Pokerstars is for online poker.

This is something I would like to see also.  I think Dragon tale is nice game how would it be to make something nicer, and bigger with more game's? I would like to see some other card games in bitcoin gambling. And what about racing car games, and some other sport games? Well i hope someone will make it soo.
legendary
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My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.


Yes I would add that bringing the mobile game apps monetization system into gambling would be great. People are paying to get weapon upgrades and virtual clothes and stupid things like that, so there must be a way to introduce gambling into cool games. However there is plenty of restrictions in this business in many countries so I know how hard it is (I've worked for many casino and gambling sites as a UI designer).

There are actually apps where you can web browse through tor on any smart phone device.  So essentially, people who live in countries who are restricted by laws to gamble can gamble online either on laptops, desktops, or even on phone now by using apps that run tor. 

I don't know how safe these apps are and if they can make the IP address going through LTE devices show up on another IP address, but as of right now, I think this is the safest and most realistic alternative than trying to make apps for phones that allow you to gamble.  I don't think apple or android would ever allow actual gambling apps that's run through online gambling sites (especially with bitcoin) because of the legal consequences that follow them.
legendary
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My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.


Yes I would add that bringing the mobile game apps monetization system into gambling would be great. People are paying to get weapon upgrades and virtual clothes and stupid things like that, so there must be a way to introduce gambling into cool games. However there is plenty of restrictions in this business in many countries so I know how hard it is (I've worked for many casino and gambling sites as a UI designer).
hero member
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My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

Totally agree with that. I only gamble on my phone because im too lazy to turn my computer on just to open a gamble website Tongue
If the game doesnt fit my screen or doesnt work on my phone I wouldnt play that game at all. The first impression on my mobile phone tells me if I will play it in the future.
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