Topic: [SPECULATION] Next big thing in online gambling? - page 3. (Read 2511 times)

Agree with most of this. Bet King has pivoted a few times in the 2.5+ years and it does look like dice is on the decline, seems some sites fake their stats in this regard.

Even with BK having one of if not the highest betting limits of any Bitcoin site when it comes to roulette it still hasn't seen much wagered. Obviously there could be improvements to the design, features and sounds but it is still better looking than most of the other popular Bitcoin sites roulette game.

In the new year Bet King will get a big update for casino, poker and sports (I'd like to add DFS at some point too) as well as some other ideas I've hinted at before.
 

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.

I would disagree on this. Most gamblers' mind barely can see the difference, but increasing HE on just 0.5% would allow casino to provide much more regular rewards, higher rakebacks and various events with prizes. Which would attract more gamblers even from casinos with lower HE %.

Regards,
Alex.

Daily Fantasy has much bigger potential than season lenght.

Personally I see this as the new big frontier for Bitcoin gambling. There's still a lot of room out there for new types of sports gambling games and sites to be created... Something like fantasy sports for every sport would be a very nice diverse option from the normal sports gambling sites that are out there right now.

I am kind of with a different opinion with you here. While standard games (roulette, BJ, slots, sports betting, poker, etc) are still popular in the bitcoin gambling industry, the most popular game is dice and the bustabit game. The dice game is just another game of chance but the exact way it works (10000 possible outcome from 0.00 to 99.99 and players can choose whatever multipliers they want) is something nonexistence in brick and mortar casinos or traditional online casinos. The BAB game, on the other hand, is completely new AFAIK. With these in mind, I would not be surprised if one day someone invents a new fun game and get a big share of the gambling market.

I doubt that we will see some new game which will take over the market. Standard casino games are known for centuries and people still enjoy them a lot.
I think next big thing in gambling will be linked to esports or gaming industry in general. Potentially we could see some AAA title with gambling mechanic introduced.
And seeing how esports and gaming world is rapidly evolving I think it would be question of 'when' rather than 'if'.

Hmmm i wouldn't actually mind if someone was to make one for bitcoin. It could be pretty cool, same for basketball and hockey also.
This i could see happening because they wouldn't have to "reinvent the wheel" but they could just modify it a bit and accept BTC if it was handled by someone trustworthy it could be very cool.

It's too late now because the football season is underway but some kind of a fantasy football competition would be cool.

Everybody pays to enter 1 team & the winner gets the combined bounty at the end of the season. Not sure if people know what I mean by fantasy football but there are several well known one's online.

I was thinking to start the game of 3 cards.The same one they play in Lock ,Stock and Two Smoking Barrels .This will change the gambling scenario as you won't play against any bots or any provably fair stuff.The cards will be distributed by an escrow who will held all your funds and accordingly two players can bet with each other real time.

Not really sure what the next big thing is because people are so attached to the old games that it is pretty hard to come out with something fresh. Even if new games get some traction the big players still play the games they like and that is unlikely to change.
I guess PVP games will enter the field a bit more but most of the gambling world will remain the same.

I think the biggest thing already exists and is Dice without a doubt but some addition to it which might be the next big thing could be a no house dice or a negligible percentage of house edge.
i don't think people are interested in hundreds of new games anymore they need simplicity with a highest chance to win some coins.

If someone is bored enough movie based video arcade games
Imagines ideas like star wars related pinball etc. Or it could be possible that arcade variants appear, that said the market tends to saturate amongst certain type of games so perhaps more plinko type games may appear as well.

For skill based gambling games to work you'd need some popular network that hosts different kinds of games.
Something like what Pokerstars is for online poker.

I want to believe that skill-based games will be a new thing, but it seems like they won't be a big thing because there will always be someone who will have more of an edge. It seems like luck is the main thing gamblers want to see.

I think the next thing in online gambling, however, will most likely be fancier slot/dice machines, or we might see thing like coin pushers become a thing, even though that is far harder to do than is probably worth it.

As it currently stands, the Bitcoin gambling scene is fairly saturated with basic sites, and it'll take someone making something flashier to convince anyone to switch whatever site they're comfortable with.

My thoughts:

* Provably fair is huge. Why would anyone want to go back to having to trust (and not be sure)? But verifying provably fair is a huge PITA, and almost no one does it. So I think we'll see more automated provably fair checking (e.g. with a browser plugin)

* House edges are going to go down. One of the biggest reasons bustabit gets such huge volumes (i think 2nd, after PD) is just because the house edge is very low. Even if you can't notice it (you really can't) it means you get a shit load more variance, and the same amount of money lasts a lot longer. I have a theory, that if a casino is not bankroll constraint (e.g. can offer the same limits) they'd might make more money with a 0.1% house edge, than a 1% (i.e. they might > x10 their volume). Just a nascent thought though.

* Pure skill games (e.g. chess) will unfortunately never become big in gambling. Even if you can solve the bot problems (which is dubious), just the difference between pro-level and punters will always be too big. And the pro-level people like to make money, not gamble. Skill games with a lot of noise (e.g. poker, or bustabit) will do well though

* We'll see more betting-exchange type stuff

* We'll see some 0-house-edge sites. No sane operator can or will back the other side of bets, but it could be done with efficient match-making, somehow. I guess the site could make money with a commission (e.g. 10% of profits you made) ?


Disclaimer: Don't trust me, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I've completely fucked up and misjudged the market twice with dustdice and pevpot

Thanks!


At it's core a block hash is for all intents and purposes a (very big) random number between 0 and . So all pevpot does is use that to decide who won the lottery. There's some fancy stuff like stretching the block to prevent miners from being able to cheat, but at it's core it's quite nice. The whole point of the blockchain is so we can come to consensus, so with a well-defined lottery procedure, we can unambiguously pick winner.

I think it's pretty cool how pevpot can offer a RTP of >100%  (compared to state lotteries that do 50% or something) but it doesn't offer the instant-feedback that most gamblers want, I think

I think it's safe to say that anyone would really Yahoo, lol. There's a huge market that's available for people that can code this sort of stuff.  A lot of people like "retro-esque" arcade games.

I think it would be even cooler if someone were to make a game like that, where it doesn't necessarily require you to sign up for anything either... I mean, I would think you would want to make it as "life like" as possible, and last time I played pinball at some arcade (or bar for that matter) I don't remember having to give the machine my email address and that sort of thing.  So it would be nice just to be able to send coins "in" the machine, just like you would quarters, and start playing... If you win, that's awesome you can keep playing or withdraw (probably with a fee).

I would like to see a bitcoin pinball game myself. Im sure it would be a coders nightmare to acheive but if someone made a good one id damn sure play it

You bring up a really good point here, and yeah... this is a good place to ask for questions in general about how one would go about getting their ideas to "come to life".  I believe there is so much room for innovation in the gaming experience, and there has to be a realization that not all good coders who can create these games have the best ideas, per se.


I'm not quite sure if I have seen this somewhere before, but I believe there was a site that was promoting itself for doing exactly that. I want to say it was PevPot, and I think one of the more trusted members on this side of the forum, RHavar, created it. It's basically a lottery type system that issues "tickets" out based on how much you bet... after X amount of blocks have been solved, it uses the next block to decide who wins the pot (that part I still don't quite understand).

Not quite sure if there are any other sites that uses the blockchain as a form of gambling, but a neat concept overall. Keep 'em coming!