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Quote from: Fiatless on December 30, 2024, 08:57:26 AM

Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

It called my attention to what could be another popular concept of gambling in the future. What do you think? It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

.... But I am scared that the game can be rigged.

Rigged in what manner? the software being righed by any of the parts interested or the player purposely losing in order to pocket money from match fixers?
I personally do not think games of consoles like the super Nintendo or the Playstation could be easily tampered with without someone realizing something is off. There are people on the internet which specialize on detecting when speed-runners cheat with the code to have mild advantages, which they use to break world records.
It would be less likely than some fixers messing with boxing matches or football matches, I believe.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

It called my attention to what could be another popular concept of gambling in the future. What do you think? It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

These days people can gamble on almost anything. I have seen this kind of games where people compete for the highest score and it's great to see that they can compete with players from other parts of the world. I have not considered playing these games because they don't give me pleasure. Betting on individual players will depend on the knowledge you have of the player. If you are a close follower of the games and know their capacity, you can bet on them. But I am scared that the game can be rigged.

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Quote from: vs2014 on December 29, 2024, 05:51:46 AM

It can be their own question and depending on them it can be positive or negative. I've played a few times mortal kombat is an old game that many of us enjoyed growing up and some of us are good at being able to finish the game ahead of time. Other casinos will adopt such games if they generate site traffic in the long run. All these games remind fans of the old days which is why such games can be updated in casinos. The challenge that was sponsored by the stock could lead to better future development.

With this concept, casinos would easily inaugurate video gamers to join the gambling niche, and it'll be an added fresh users to casinos. And they'll build up another niche of gamers who can't wait to earn from their video gaming skills. A lot of them will embrace this, but the fear here is that video gamers consists of young underaged players. And a technique as this places them on the verge of gambling.

Gambling is innovating and I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of none traditional casino and bet games being inputted into casino sites. If political matters like elections can be bet on them there's no stopping anything that concerns competitions not to be included in modern gambling. Although my problem with most none pro sports or entertainment in gambling is that results can be manipulated as a result of game fixings. Another worry as you've noted is if most kids video games makes it to casinos, it might influence underaged gambling. Apart from these observations I think that adding more features into gambling is a welcomed development as it will increase the number of gamblers who are into those games.

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Quote from: vs2014 on December 29, 2024, 05:51:46 AM

It can be their own question and depending on them it can be positive or negative. I've played a few times mortal kombat is an old game that many of us enjoyed growing up and some of us are good at being able to finish the game ahead of time. Other casinos will adopt such games if they generate site traffic in the long run. All these games remind fans of the old days which is why such games can be updated in casinos. The challenge that was sponsored by the stock could lead to better future development.

With this concept, casinos would easily inaugurate video gamers to join the gambling niche, and it'll be an added fresh users to casinos. And they'll build up another niche of gamers who can't wait to earn from their video gaming skills. A lot of them will embrace this, but the fear here is that video gamers consists of young underaged players. And a technique as this places them on the verge of gambling.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on December 29, 2024, 04:19:42 AM

Quote from: uneng on December 26, 2024, 09:30:08 PM

The objective of every of them is to surpass top 1 on the ranking. They are constantly trying it through lives.

You, as a gambler, can predict if you think player A or B is going to break the record of player C during a live of X minutes. If you predict it correctly, you win, otherwise you lose.

After reading some of the replies I think I see it clearly now. So you are betting on the players who take up the "challenge" of speedrunning a game.

Guess this is going to come to which player is known to run the game more often and which maps are known to the players - right? The audience would be those who play that game and the players would also belong to that category too.

Niche, but a nice method to attract specific crowds of gamers into gambling.

Mostly crowds from the old school console games which I believe are in the age of 35-40-ish now. Cheesy

They love those games but the truth is there are very rare popular names in these games. That's because there are just too many players in different countries and it's hard to tell which one is better because they rarely fight against each other due to a lack of tournaments before.
So, to win a bet on who will rank at the top will be difficult unless we first watch some speedruns to tell a player is good at what he is doing and maybe wait until he joins the next speedrun tournament so we can bet for him/her.

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Quote from: sunsilk on December 28, 2024, 05:53:46 PM

That is what I saw with speed runs, they're beating the records they set and it can be a good setup for those speed runners if they're up for fun and gamble.

Beating the records we set is a common thing that we always did because that feels so excited especially when we can break the last records. That is happen over time between me and my cousin and the winner of the money will always change.
And when the money involve, our passion to be the winner will increase because there is a challenge between us about who will be the next winner. Most of time I lost from my cousin as I am not a good player.

Quote from: sunsilk on December 28, 2024, 05:53:46 PM

Yeah, I know but even with the sports that we've grown up. It's already associated with gambling and that's why we can conclude that everything nowadays can be done with gambling.

If the parties involved are agreeing to what they're about to do.

Indeed, I agree with you said. With involving gambling inside the games will make the game more interesting and more challenging. Besides that, with the money involves, the players will try to use his best skill to beats the opponent. Usually, they use money in that game because they want to make the games more thrill and there is a challenge inside the game. That depends on the players when they wants to use money as the bet.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

Isn't the Speedrun.com platform often used in action for video games, by many video game lovers to make it easier to complete games quickly, I thought Speedrun only works for video games, speedrun does not work in slot games, sports, poker, roulette and so on.

As far as I know, to become a top and reliable speedrunner user, it is not as easy as we imagine, it requires some understanding to do several things, such as choosing a suitable game, speedrunner community and a lot of things to learn, I think speedrun has a record for video game lovers, not in online casinos.

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It can be their own question and depending on them it can be positive or negative. I've played a few times mortal kombat is an old game that many of us enjoyed growing up and some of us are good at being able to finish the game ahead of time. Other casinos will adopt such games if they generate site traffic in the long run. All these games remind fans of the old days which is why such games can be updated in casinos. The challenge that was sponsored by the stock could lead to better future development.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

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Interesting, never encountered such betting on gambles. ^{It seems to be like the betting on the horse race, correct?} The only drawback ^{as I see it} is that the competition between those who are trying to break l^{et's say Mortal Kombat} present record may last too long comparing with the horse race. The latter may also spring a surprise on ^{with the race won by a rank outsider} which allows to snatch a large sum of money. I'm not sure is this would be possible at the bet on determined gamers.

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Quote from: uneng on December 26, 2024, 09:30:08 PM

The objective of every of them is to surpass top 1 on the ranking. They are constantly trying it through lives.

You, as a gambler, can predict if you think player A or B is going to break the record of player C during a live of X minutes. If you predict it correctly, you win, otherwise you lose.

After reading some of the replies I think I see it clearly now. So you are betting on the players who take up the "challenge" of speedrunning a game.

Guess this is going to come to which player is known to run the game more often and which maps are known to the players - right? The audience would be those who play that game and the players would also belong to that category too.

Niche, but a nice method to attract specific crowds of gamers into gambling.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on December 22, 2024, 04:28:30 AM

Speedrunning to get paid? Where is the gamble in that? Its more like a gaming "challenge accepted" thing.

The question would be why stake is even sponsoring such an event? There is no risk in such games, it is just a matter of practice - back in the old days when internet was not so easy or cheap to get access to, people would master speedrunning the entire games for months.

Maybe it can be made "risky" and worth the money, but it will need some sort of things factored it.

Bro, you're saying this like your don't know stake marketing team has gone brrrrrr with their marketing budget but that's by the way.

The only way this "speedrun" thing would be considered gambling is if the players get to pay an entry fee that gets added to the prize pool if they fail to reach or break the high score. Otherwise, it'd just be gaming without any gambling.

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Quote from: moneystery on December 27, 2024, 11:41:34 AM

I don't think it will be a new category in gambling because it's too hard to beat other people's records and also not many people are interested in this type of betting. but maybe it can be posted on polymarket because the betting system there is different compared to the usual ones in online casinos. or it can also be held in online casinos, but it is limited to limited events only, that's also possible, to attract people's attention and bet together on their favorite influencers or streamers to beat other people's records or make new records.

Polymarket or futuur can list this type of betting line. But for a regular bookie, would be hard to get bettors. This is not a popular sports so only specific audience is interested on betting this actuvity.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

For gamers the term speedrun is well known. It consists in finishing a game from the beginning to the end in the fastest possible time interval. There are global rankings where gamers compete among themselves for the best positions.

Coincidentally, yesterday I was scrolling through Youtube, when a live challenge appeared, where the youtuber was trying to break the world record in Mortal Kombat. If he managed doing so, the prize to be received was 1000 units of my local currency (about 164 dollars). He also mentioned the challenge was sponsored by Stake.

It called my attention to what could be another popular concept of gambling in the future. What do you think? It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

I saw this challenge too. Was it by any chance a Brazilian YouTuber? This content has been delivered to me quite frequently. I even followed him a little yesterday. He was trying to break the world record for the Mortal Kombat Trilogy game, and his live stream was sponsored by Stake.

It seems to me that casino companies are entering this business with a certain force. This is very good because it generates a very high level of engagement. This community of speed runners has been growing at an alarming rate lately.

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Quote from: jcojci on December 27, 2024, 07:00:35 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 27, 2024, 05:02:10 AM

I've seen this with super Mario players but that's it, there's no bet and no other gambling on the side. But I think it will be like that in the future. When popular streamers trying to beat records after records.

And that's the possibility in there, it's very likely that we'd see more people getting engaged in speed runs and it can be not-so-typical esporting event.

To be honest, I am enjoying watching these players do that but to collaborate it with gambling. I haven't thought of that yet.

Super Mario game is just for fun for two players but you can gamble if you want. Who will be the first that can beat the boss will receive the win money. That is what I did with my cousins but don't tell my moms hehehe.

That is what I saw with speed runs, they're beating the records they set and it can be a good setup for those speed runners if they're up for fun and gamble.

Quote from: jcojci on December 27, 2024, 07:00:35 AM

Maybe that can be interesting if collaborate it with gambling because we know that gamblers can use many things to keep gambling. But it is better that game is not collaborate with gambling as that can makes young generation gamble with their money. But that game can trigger to young generation to use violence to their friends.

Yeah, I know but even with the sports that we've grown up. It's already associated with gambling and that's why we can conclude that everything nowadays can be done with gambling.

If the parties involved are agreeing to what they're about to do.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

For gamers the term speedrun is well known. It consists in finishing a game from the beginning to the end in the fastest possible time interval. There are global rankings where gamers compete among themselves for the best positions.

Coincidentally, yesterday I was scrolling through Youtube, when a live challenge appeared, where the youtuber was trying to break the world record in Mortal Kombat. If he managed doing so, the prize to be received was 1000 units of my local currency (about 164 dollars). He also mentioned the challenge was sponsored by Stake.

It called my attention to what could be another popular concept of gambling in the future. What do you think? It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

Mortal Kombat in gambling? What is it? You choose the bet that you think will win? I'm just not sure if my thinking and understanding of the op's post is correct, please correct me if there is a mistake in my understanding, my friends here in this forum section.

Then I also can't think of any other categories of gambling that can be added in the future, because the only ones I'm used to seeing often in gambling are slots games, poker,
card games and other games. I just don't know if arcade and adventure games will be added to the casino in gambling casinos.

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Quote from: uneng on December 20, 2024, 01:14:48 PM

For gamers the term speedrun is well known. It consists in finishing a game from the beginning to the end in the fastest possible time interval. There are global rankings where gamers compete among themselves for the best positions.

Coincidentally, yesterday I was scrolling through Youtube, when a live challenge appeared, where the youtuber was trying to break the world record in Mortal Kombat. If he managed doing so, the prize to be received was 1000 units of my local currency (about 164 dollars). He also mentioned the challenge was sponsored by Stake.

It called my attention to what could be another popular concept of gambling in the future. What do you think? It's totally possible to bet on determined gamers in an attempt to predict if they can break such world records or not.

I'm just getting to know about speedrun for the first time and it seems to me like a gambling category that is or will be very risky for gamblers who would want to take part in it. Someone can prove me wrong if I am not getting these whole idea about speedruns. Imagine playing through a gaming session quickly, without careful thoughts and within a very short time given just to reach a specific goal. This kind of game can make one lose faster than they can imagine because the gambler would definitely be acting out of pressure which is not a good way to gamble. It would have been exciting if this kind of game can be played with friends without much financial involvement, just fun.

I am not in doubt that this category will soon be a trend in the nearest future because people are ever willing to do anything for financial rewards, speedrun is not just popular now.

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I don't think it will be a new category in gambling because it's too hard to beat other people's records and also not many people are interested in this type of betting. but maybe it can be posted on polymarket because the betting system there is different compared to the usual ones in online casinos. or it can also be held in online casinos, but it is limited to limited events only, that's also possible, to attract people's attention and bet together on their favorite influencers or streamers to beat other people's records or make new records.

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Quote from: Yucky on December 27, 2024, 11:26:18 AM

Betting on speed runs or related games could be an interesting and fresh experience for gamblers. For instance, imagine betting on a Guinness Book of Records attempt, such as someone trying to beat the record for the longest cooking time.

Though, I believe you are going a little bit off the original concept of the thread/discussion, trying to beat an original guinness record is rather uninteresting market for bettors, in my opinion, because all the preparation it takes and all the time it takes for a single person to try to beat a guinness record. On the other hand, if you limit yourself to videogames and speedrunning, then it becomes more dynamic, it becomes faster and more appealing to bettors and gamblers in general. We all know how crucial it is for gamblers to be able to wager their money at a reasonable pace, not too low, otherwise they go away and seek for other alternatives which suit them the best.

Think for example of the original game Mario Bros for the Nintendo Entertainment system, the current world record is about 5 minutes. That means each attempt to beat the record would be about 5 minutes, before the next attempt, 5 minutes is rather a reasonable time for bettors. In contrast, there are world records (unrelated to videogames) which could take months to carry out.

There is much potential on it, and I believe it will be just matter of time before a gambling provider realizes it and start to sponsor.

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Betting on speed runs or related games could be an interesting and fresh experience for gamblers. For instance, imagine betting on a Guinness Book of Records attempt, such as someone trying to beat the record for the longest cooking time.

This type of betting would be different from traditional forms, as it might take several days to determine the outcome. However, it would be engaging, as you would need to follow the event and the person attempting the record.

I believe this concept has potential, but it would require more sponsors to get on board. If executed well, it could attract a new audience and increase hype around record attempts.

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