Topic: Speedruns: a new gambling category? - page 2. (Read 381 times)

If the speed-runner is the same person who happens to have a wager on whether he will be able to break some record or not, then it would not be gambling, as the result of the game would completely depend on the skill of the speed-runner to break his record or the record of other speed-runners. Though, the gambling part would be to have other people (who do not have anything to do with speedrunning) to have a wager on whether any particular player would be able to break a record or not or whether that player would be able to reach some time-mark in their next run or not. That is legitimate betting on something which is very similar to a e-sport, though, the competitiveness within the established e-sports like Dota and League of legends is more obvious than having different speed-runners to battle for a world record.

Its actually a good one and a way of further expanding the gambling spectrum for many as there use to be very limited things to gamble on as it has to do with certain persons preferences but now gamers now have a chance to also participate fully while in their own category, there are many games out there for which they can actually participate and would want to attempt breaking records such as CODM, and other games.

This could get really popular since people loves playing games and breaking records.  But the thing is, is this really be considered gambling?  As far as I know this one is just a contest unless the player stakes something to have a chance of breaking the record.  If somehow some gambling platform implements this kind of promotion/challenge, and implements an entrance fee to participate in breaking the world records of certain game speed runs,  I believe even those people who don't usually participate in this event will be attracted due to the possible winning a huge amount of money.



I can be a gamble if there is an entrance fee for participating, same concept of buying ticket to win the lottery, except this one involves a skill.

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gambling is evolving rapidly based on interest earlier before this moment, if people were told that a time will come when we place a bet on who will win at the presidency, it will look unreal, but we have seen how with time that has become a norm. we can't really point out things that will get really big into the gambling space in the future but anything that gets really popular and has the tendency of attracting a lot of bettors will eventually be included in the future. local street fighting and some beach soccer games are increasingly gaining popularity and if more people get interested in them, then they might get incorporated into betting options.

left for me, as long as they won't be demo gambling that doesn't require money, i don't think we should have a lot of gambling options since addiction is still a major threat that a lot of people are facing at the moment and having multiple gambling options will only make them rotate among all these available options and at the end might end up spending too much in the process of gambling. some games should never be allowed money to be used for and for a thing like speed run or even virtual gambling, it is one area that needs serious regulation cause the tendency of users getting addicted is far worse than what is the case with even sports betting or casinos.

Speed runs have been popular since video games came out.  I remember seeing people in the 80's recording their gameplay on beta tapes to show off to others.  I myself believe even as a child I had a beta tape of me completing Super Mario Bros without ever getting touched by an enemy.  There was nobody to show them to back then so it was mostly for self-respect, but it happened.  Seeing that kids can make money doing this sort of stuff live makes me jealous.  I think if I were a kid today I'd be a multi-millionaire from streaming video games before I was 18.  Maybe my next trick will be becoming a video game streamer. 

yeah, looks like there is no way of knowing whether he is being sponsored by Stake unless he shows proof. anyway, good for him if he is actually being sponsored by stake.com.

The OP is talking about people betting on Speedrunner and whether the player can finish the game and set a new record or not, that's the gambling factor OP is talking about.

virtual games that are played by group have been in existence for a long time for example is wii games where you can play with multiplayer mode with your family and friends by your television and the remote controller but that is not the same as that of in the gambling sector where its casino games that you can play with a group i think it can be interesting and would ignite competitiveness among your friends or family and could serve as a more entertaining gambling activity

That makes us slowly leave this games and choose the other games that attract us. Sometimes I miss to play that games with my bro and sis but that will not easy as we are busy and can not always meet. When we meet each other, we don't play the game but only talk and discuss about many things including share what we experienced. But sometimes I watched my kids and nephew when they play a game together and that reminds me about the past when I was kids.

Having free time is really a problem when we reach a certain point in adult life, we have to divide the little time we have with other essential priorities. And the tendency is only to get worse, because adult life is extremely competitive and those who do not continue studying will fall behind... and in the end there is very little time left to really dedicate to games.

I also used to play certain games with my family, and I want to say that this is how love for a certain game begins. After that, if you have free time, you can meet up to watching eSports for this game. Of course, I'm not talking about single games, but about those where several people can play. And that's cool.
Of course, in eSports there is excitement and a desire to show yourself, and of course, big money. It's a pity that I, like you, have fewer and fewer free hours in my life lately.

I've never seen anywhere where it was possible to place bets on Street Fighter 6 tournaments. Some time ago I saw casinos where it was possible to place bets on the game Injustice 2, but fighting games I believe are still a very small niche to attract big companies supporting betting... And yes, I follow the best players in the world, MenaRD, tokido, Daigo, Punk, EndingWalker, Kusanagi... all very good.

Age really matters in competitive games, I'm almost 40 and my reflexes aren't the same as those of a 20-year-old boy, not to mention the time needed to dedicate myself, with family and work, it gets increasingly difficult...

Oh that's nice to be honest because gambling and gaming is integrating more, a lot of us loves playing games and this is one of the s tier entertainments. Betting on which speedrun time is cool but could be more a thing in the future, a lot will try to speedrun and because of this a lot of gamblers will try to get in. Eventually, they will try to learn the game too and get invested, this is where a community will be build and more progress in the gambling industry will grow.

I am very familiar with the term Speedrun and often watch them because I am a fan of video games. I really like watching speedruns because they contain a lot of interesting things: from finding glitches to using bugs. Speedrunners also show insanely fast reaction, which can only be innate. That's why they are all so unique, and of course I hope that casinos like Stake will develop this betting section, it will be interesting for all gamers.

I experienced played that similar game in PS and I admitted that is exciting to beat the opponents. I am often played the game with my brothers and sisters and cousin. Although I am not too good playing that game but that is fun especially if there is a prizes for the winners. I also experienced played that with my friends and of course, there is a small amount of money to bet

But I don't play the game now and don't have the new PS machine. We already busy with our routine days and not too often to meet.

Perhaps you're right, but even if they considered that staying in their niche is safer and don't open the door to this kind of bets in the future, I think that they've identified a target audience in these speedruns and that the investment for this sponsorship will pay them good returns.

Gambling is evolving from only the regular casino games and popular sports like football, into accommodating anything that involves competition. If we can bet on presidential elections that has nothing to do with casino games and sports, I wouldn't be surprised if Speedrun, will be bet on in casinos. We need to accept innovations and additions into gambling to accommodate different categories of bettors that enjoys other types of sports and fun activities that involves competitions. If a casino like stake is sponsoring Speedrun, that means that it has a chance of being listed as a casino game in the future.

It's more likely the event will be listed on polymarket because the option is only yes or no.

Will this player beat the world record? yes or no.
Will someone able to beat the world record? yes or no.

Personally I don't like this kind gambling because it's hard to predict, except I personally know the participant in personal, so I can know how fastest he/she can finish the game.

It is a challenge, to beat the time or a race from start to finish, but since we can bet on racing sports like Monaco racing cars or even hurdles then it is still a form of gambling.

Moreover the definition of gambling is an act of predicting what will end a challenge or match, it doesn't matter if it is a fight or a rat race, money is involved and we currently don't know who the winner will be, applying money to this makes it a gamble.

Even to invest in crypto meme coins and altcoins this days are considered a gamble because many of them are scam and it is hard to know which one will do well and which one will fail, it is a gamble.

Speedrunning to get paid? Where is the gamble in that? Its more like a gaming "challenge accepted" thing.

The question would be why stake is even sponsoring such an event? There is no risk in such games, it is just a matter of practice - back in the old days when internet was not so easy or cheap to get access to, people would master speedrunning the entire games for months.

Maybe it can be made "risky" and worth the money, but it will need some sort of things factored it.

This will gain a lot of attention from players of SNES, Nintendo, and old-school consoles like PS1. I have seen a lot of experienced players of Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and other fighting games who could easily finish the fight without even using up the whole default allotted time of the game.
They did this before but not a speedrun, it's a tournament and I was really amazed at how many arcade players are still good at what they do even though they look old now.
I watched this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uZBDqiy44o
I think it's going to be quite addictive for old-school console lovers out there and I wish they could add more games. Maybe more will go back to practicing those games and try new moves that will make the games popular again.