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legendary
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January 07, 2024, 01:12:50 PM
#23
It does not work as it sounds the reason is simple, most bookies for online betting are the same. You would not find a big difference in the odds provided by the bookmaker. it works well when you are doing offline betting, I have tried it online for cricket and have not found any casino suitable for it. Whereas when I did it offline it worked with two bookies and the reason is that in my country gambling is banned, we do it in hiding. As cricket is the most sought out sport we bet on it with known bookies who are connected to international book makers.

that's what i also noticed among online bookies, their odds are somewhat close to each other so i don't think it is of your advantage if you will do the betting arbitrage. but for offline bookies, there's a chance that the odds are indeed quite wide in difference.

Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.
For arbitrage betting you won't need to be a genius. You need to give time. It takes a lot of time to find suitable odds. There are also odd comparison sites which can help you.
First you need to have a lot of time, then you need to have accounts with different sportsbook but you need to be aware that these sportsbooks are not using same providers. Once you have these two, arbitrage betting is simple.

Problem is, many sportsbook will not accept you if they find out you are arbitraging. They will not pay you. If the sportsbook is highly reputable then they may return your deposit. At the end you will find, everything was wasted.

I don't suggest anyone to do arbitrage betting.

time and quick decision. because if the game is already starting, the odds can change fast. and as much as possible you already have deposited amount on each sportsbook that you want to place your bets with.

that's the problem over there, they should not have the same provider, else, you're account may be screwed if they found out especially if big amount is involved. for small bets, they may let it pass. but if it is considerable amount, for sure they will do their own investigations. better not to divulge in this activity if it is online bookie. the chance of having the same provider is high, else, your account is at risk.
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January 07, 2024, 11:50:12 AM
#22
It does not work as it sounds the reason is simple, most bookies for online betting are the same. You would not find a big difference in the odds provided by the bookmaker. it works well when you are doing offline betting, I have tried it online for cricket and have not found any casino suitable for it. Whereas when I did it offline it worked with two bookies and the reason is that in my country gambling is banned, we do it in hiding. As cricket is the most sought out sport we bet on it with known bookies who are connected to international book makers.
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January 07, 2024, 11:27:58 AM
#21
You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or lose. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

I'm not talking about making money on roulette, dice or other games of chance. Here, the casino is the opposing party to the transaction (it earns when we lose and loses when we earn) and agrees to it because it has a statistical advantage. In the case of sportbetting, this is not the case, because the casino owner would bear too much risk because it is impossible to perfectly estimate the probability of each match. Therefore, in the case of sportbetting, the casino is only an intermediary between bettors sets the odds based on how others bet, only adding their fees to the formula. A casino is not, or at least should not be, a party to a transaction in which the probability cannot be accurately calculated, because at that point it ceases to be a casino and begins to be a gambler.
Just like playing poker online. Casinos don't ban people who win too much at poker...

Casino is the sports betting operator and every casino will always use a sports betting provider.
The online casino is not acting as the intermediary between bettors, the provider did.

And if the provider detects Arb betting, they will void the bet and the casino definitely will not pay the user.
Arb betting guarantee that the user will always get profits 100% as long as the user pick the right odds.
If Arb betting is legal, then many gamblers will do arb betting instead of placing a normal bet and that means less profits or even a loss for the providers.
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January 07, 2024, 11:13:20 AM
#20
Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.
For arbitrage betting you won't need to be a genius. You need to give time. It takes a lot of time to find suitable odds. There are also odd comparison sites which can help you.
First you need to have a lot of time, then you need to have accounts with different sportsbook but you need to be aware that these sportsbooks are not using same providers. Once you have these two, arbitrage betting is simple.

Problem is, many sportsbook will not accept you if they find out you are arbitraging. They will not pay you. If the sportsbook is highly reputable then they may return your deposit. At the end you will find, everything was wasted.

I don't suggest anyone to do arbitrage betting.
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January 07, 2024, 11:03:46 AM
#19
From what I know of arbitrage, most of the casinos do not support it. I have seen many scam accusations and complaints of users accounts being closed due to arbitrage. I wouldn't risk my account to try and profit a small amount of $$$.
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January 07, 2024, 10:38:57 AM
#18
I have seen gamblers who do arbitrage gambling but they still lose their bets. Bookmakers understand this business more and won't allow easy means to winning, they know gamblers use arbitrage to try to win and so they also tighten up the odds not to allow that "easy" or sometimes you find out that certain option is not available for a certain game, that is what's happening. They remove certain option that would have made arbitrage winning possible.

And if they can not check it or prevent the easy arbitrage winning then they explicitly state it in their terms and conditions that they don't accept it.
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January 07, 2024, 10:09:12 AM
#17
I've tried this a couple of years back in the days of nitrogensports and directbet, and it was hard. First, you need to be very keen on taking note of the games and the odds as this is the most important factor in arbing. The moment you miscalculated the odds, chances are you are playing for a loss no matter the outcome. The essence of arbing is to make sure that you are making even a little profit off of your bets no matter the outcome of the event, thus removing the element of 'luck' in your bets. Thing is, I'm not a coder and I cannot really create something that will help me keep track of the odd changes in both of these platforms at the same time, hence there are lots of times when I've locked in my bet and never noticed that it will result to a negative profit for me no matter the outcome, so I decided to just quit it and focus on just entertaining myself on casino games for the next couple of years.

Casinos hate this because this removes any profit-making opportunity from their hands. If a lot of people do this, they technically just served as a platform for people to profit and not to lose.
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January 07, 2024, 09:56:46 AM
#16
This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage.
Basic principles are like Arbitrage Trading but with more risk factors.

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From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.
With Arbitrage Trading, cryptocurrency exchanges are not against it and they won't suspend or terminate your accounts if you use your exchange account for Arbitrage Trading. Exchanges only ban your account if they detect that you use it for money laundering or make deposits from sanctioned addresses.

With Arbitrage Gambling, in sports betting, risk is bigger. You can win, get profit in your account but you might not be approved for withdrawals. You can withdraw successfully with your first or few first withdrawals but after all, they will see something suspicious and investigate your accounts.
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January 07, 2024, 09:17:55 AM
#15
This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage. From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.

This really advanced mode of betting before but there’s already arbitrage betting calculator online for free which anyone can use by themselves by manually entering the odds of the game to calculate the potential profit.

This method is very popular because it gives guaranteed profit but the only challenge is on how to spot a match with odds error. Arbitrage bet is only possible if bookmaker provides an error odds on one sportsbook. I try to do this on crypto casino but it’s very hard to spot manually.
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 09:08:19 AM
#14
What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this?
not me since I rarely do sports betting but I've seen gamblers post here on the forum complaining about getting banned/blocked from sportsbooks for arbitrage betting.

Why does it bother them anyway?
probably because it gives the bettor an advantage. think about card counting, casinos banned it because it gives the gambler an advantage over the casino.

I don't think it would bother that much the bookmakers as you are not always winning from the only one,you are getting advantage by different bookmakers with sports betting arbitrage so I doubt anyone had problems with this strategy.
from what I have seen and read, a lot of sportsbooks don't like arbitrage betting/bettors much, so yeah, they are bothered by it. that being said, I am not saying that every sportsbook is bothered by arbitrage bettors/betting.
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January 07, 2024, 07:48:10 AM
#13
This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage. From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.
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January 07, 2024, 07:37:30 AM
#12
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

I have tried once but found out soon enough that you need a complete department like in a business to deal with that,you needed to have huge starting capital spread across many sport betting site to take advantage of these loopholes and unfortunately it can't be done alone as you simply lack the physical time and resources to implement such thing only by yourself.

I don't think it would bother that much the bookmakers as you are not always winning from the only one,you are getting advantage by different bookmakers with sports betting arbitrage so I doubt anyone had problems with this strategy.
hero member
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January 07, 2024, 06:49:13 AM
#11
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

This is not allowed to do on casino sportsbook. They consider it as exploit on their odds so your account will just be restricted or worst ban to play in the casino by doing this. Casinos odds provider is just the same so your account will be connected even if you are using different casino to this method.

There’s still some user that manage to earn decent profit on this strategy but they are gambling with a risk to seize all their profit so this method is not worth it in ling term use. Your best chance to make this kind of strategy long term is to combine your local sportsbook to international sportsbook so that your account will not be connected but it’s very hard to find a match that has +EV to do an arbitrage bet.
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January 07, 2024, 05:54:18 AM
#10
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.

They must be very experienced to smell chances to get profit and must do their bets very quickly and cleverly. Even so, they will have big risk that casinos, bookmakers will sooner or later, recognize it and react consequently.

The bad risk is Sportsbet bookmakers usually have Terms in their Terms of service that they are against Arbitrage betting. They are not tolerate for this betting type and if it is detected, they will have strict punishment on abused accounts.

In forum, I read some invalid scam accusations with Arbitrage bets, and not happy ending for users.
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 05:25:47 AM
#9
doing arbitrage in reality requires "cash ready" on the various gaming accounts, being registered on many websites including know their ToS and market rules, free time to be able to play the bets correctly... and risking that a winning bet is not paid (no one likes the arbitrage). Are you sure it's really worth it?
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January 07, 2024, 04:32:28 AM
#8
Not in sports betting precisely, but I tried arbitrage in trading long time ago. It didn't work as I expected and never tried again, although I think that with the proper knowledge and well done it can be very profitable, but I didn't have the patience needed, and the way I did it there was still a risk factor.

Is it the same with sports betting arbitrage? or it doesn't have any risks? I suppose that if it is not risky more and more people will eventually try it and in the end odds in different sportsbooks will end being similar. Does it make sense?
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January 07, 2024, 04:30:24 AM
#7
You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or lose. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

I'm not talking about making money on roulette, dice or other games of chance. Here, the casino is the opposing party to the transaction (it earns when we lose and loses when we earn) and agrees to it because it has a statistical advantage. In the case of sportbetting, this is not the case, because the casino owner would bear too much risk because it is impossible to perfectly estimate the probability of each match. Therefore, in the case of sportbetting, the casino is only an intermediary between bettors sets the odds based on how others bet, only adding their fees to the formula. A casino is not, or at least should not be, a party to a transaction in which the probability cannot be accurately calculated, because at that point it ceases to be a casino and begins to be a gambler.
Just like playing poker online. Casinos don't ban people who win too much at poker...
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January 07, 2024, 04:21:03 AM
#6
but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?
You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or not. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

Let us say you have $50 to trade. If an exchange is charging 0.05% and you trade, the exchange will charge you $0.025 which is 0.05% of $50 to open a position and another 0.05% of the money when you close a position. The exchange does not care about your profit or loss. On exchanges, traders are losing to other traders and making money from the loss of other traders and not the exchange.

But if it is gambling site, they charge you nothing but to win or lose the $50 while gambling. If you win, the gambling site will use the money they have profit from other gamblers to pay you. That is why gambling sites can not like arbitrary in gambling.
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January 07, 2024, 04:14:04 AM
#5
Arbitrage requires huge deposit to be profitable since you are guaranteed to lose of the game played and it gets tricky when playing games that the odds are far off.

This is against the rules of many casinos so it should be avoided if at all, only done when the website explicitly allows it.

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January 07, 2024, 04:02:46 AM
#4
That bothers the gambling site? How can someone bet on all the odd category like team 1 win, draw and team 2 win and still win some money. No bookmarker will want that.

but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?




I have tried sport arbitrage several times. It's really a way to make money from odd comparison. Although this doesn't come easy. If measures are not taken you may end up losing your money. Most bookmarkers hate arbers. They do all measures to go against them. I remembered I lose some funds when I started arbitrage then. But with time, I get to know which bookmarkers are arbitrage friendly. And these are site I used till today. Arbitrage involves huge money to make profit from it and there are some rules to follow in other not to lose your money.
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