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Quote from: Trofo on June 25, 2022, 10:47:03 AM

Quote from: rdbase on June 25, 2022, 05:30:11 AM

^^
But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.

There are usually even greater swings on betting exchanges due to smaller liquidity and no central authority to take part of the risk.

Anyway, as I suspected and wrote before, there has been a mistake from Sportsbet side in regards to outright Wimbledon odds. All taken care off now with the help of my buddy Steve, best forum representative I had the pleasure to meet so far

Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.

Thank you for conveying this problem in the name of us to Steve/Sportsbet.io. I can make my long-term bets by high odds relievedly from now on. I really don't see any other website getting close to the odds on Sportsbet.io when I compare them.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 25, 2022, 10:47:03 AM

Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.

Glad that I waited

I didnt place any bets when I checked the page for the very first time then when I decided to place it, the odds went down so I thought I would skip this since its kinda not EV+ anymore with that low odds. Sweet 1.81 odds with little boost, we now need Djokovic to win the entire tournament then its going to be a great outcome for all of us

Imagine hitting bonus rounds later on with those free spins

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Quote from: rdbase on June 25, 2022, 05:30:11 AM

^^
But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.

There are usually even greater swings on betting exchanges due to smaller liquidity and no central authority to take part of the risk.

Anyway, as I suspected and wrote before, there has been a mistake from Sportsbet side in regards to outright Wimbledon odds. All taken care off now with the help of my buddy Steve, best forum representative I had the pleasure to meet so far

Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.

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^^
But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 24, 2022, 05:09:50 PM

That was an interesting experiment on how the number of bets placed does infact change the odds considerably in this instance.
I remember, if my memory serves me correctly, that there was someone trying to tell players who were betting for a match on their chat this does not in anyway alter the way the odds for the markets are showing up.
Well then how can this be explained if they do not influence them in anyway and vegas bookmakers are the ones who have those odds and post them up just as they are?

Odds get made in following way.
Every bookie uses odds provider, that is a service that issues odds globally, they track global changes and use algorithms to set them in the first place. They also update them from time to time to reflect changes when users find value and bet heavy on one outcome. Means they missed initial odds.

Then the bookie adds their margin to the odds and drop outcomes much faster if they get heavy betting on the favorite. But that drop means that odds on outsider go up which is not the case in this instance of Wimbledon. Something went wrong in this case.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 24, 2022, 02:38:34 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on June 24, 2022, 02:16:00 PM

Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it. Cry

Fair point here, we will not get better odds. Odds adjust with each bet placed on outcome. Sportsbet raised the number of bets on Djoković a lot with this promo and skewed the odds.

I wanted to prove my theory by checking the odds on Stake which uses same odds provider (same odds) and they have 1.67 on Djoković. Actually I just checked the odds and Stake has much better odds on everybody. There is something wrong with this and I'll ask them on live support. As it stands nobody would place a bet on outright on Sportsbet, there must be some mistake here or really big margin cause of the promo.

Usualy odds comparison is in small favor of Stake, but then you turn that boost and Sportsbet gets in the lead by some margin. At least it was like that last time I checked. This will make me check again. Hell FAA pays double on Stake

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That was an interesting experiment on how the number of bets placed does infact change the odds considerably in this instance.
I remember, if my memory serves me correctly, that there was someone trying to tell players who were betting for a match on their chat this does not in anyway alter the way the odds for the markets are showing up.
Well then how can this be explained if they do not influence them in anyway and vegas bookmakers are the ones who have those odds and post them up just as they are?
As I had mentioned in my previous post when I placed my bet for the promotion, I first saw the odds @1.71 then waited a day and placed it @1.73x:

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Quote from: Trofo on June 24, 2022, 02:38:34 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on June 24, 2022, 02:16:00 PM

Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it. Cry

Fair point here, we will not get better odds. Odds adjust with each bet placed on outcome. Sportsbet raised the number of bets on Djoković a lot with this promo and skewed the odds.

I wanted to prove my theory by checking the odds on Stake which uses same odds provider (same odds) and they have 1.67 on Djoković. Actually I just checked the odds and Stake has much better odds on everybody. There is something wrong with this and I'll ask them on live support. As it stands nobody would place a bet on outright on Sportsbet, there must be some mistake here or really big margin cause of the promo.

Usualy odds comparison is in small favor of Stake, but then you turn that boost and Sportsbet gets in the lead by some margin. At least it was like that last time I checked. This will make me check again. Hell FAA pays double on Stake

I would see it as absolutely normal if there was an odd like this only for Djokovic. However as you said there is a really serious difference here for every player. Before making this post I also checked a few gambling websites. By the way this situation is like this only for the Wimbledon. For example, Sportsbet's odds are very close to Stake.com's for the US Open. In fact Sportsbet's odds are better. I think that there is a mistake. I hope we can see these odds at a normal level again.

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^9/11 is very good too, that's my "good" performance on regular football MM haha.

The last man standing on NFL also I got really far, by picking all the underdogs. American sports magic huh.

Anyway, if you fancy outrighs, always look at Fairlay. It's still 1.9 Djoko, and yeah, Berrettini was over 6/1 on Sportsbet when I put my Novak bet on there (which was very low too maybe 1.35?), so those 2 selections very poor value on SB.

If you're one of those guys who likes to inflict self-harm with longshots, always go Fairlay -- they serve up a big boost on odds over 10/1 usually. Against my better judgment, I put something like $2 on Tsitsipas... but he'll go bye bye early.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 24, 2022, 02:16:00 PM

Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it. Cry

Fair point here, we will not get better odds. Odds adjust with each bet placed on outcome. Sportsbet raised the number of bets on Djoković a lot with this promo and skewed the odds.

I wanted to prove my theory by checking the odds on Stake which uses same odds provider (same odds) and they have 1.67 on Djoković. Actually I just checked the odds and Stake has much better odds on everybody. There is something wrong with this and I'll ask them on live support. As it stands nobody would place a bet on outright on Sportsbet, there must be some mistake here or really big margin cause of the promo.

Usualy odds comparison is in small favor of Stake, but then you turn that boost and Sportsbet gets in the lead by some margin. At least it was like that last time I checked. This will make me check again. Hell FAA pays double on Stake

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 24, 2022, 02:16:00 PM

Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it. Cry

Well kinda expected because instead of betting for outright winners of our own selection as usual, the current promotions has specific details on betting for Djokovic so with everyone betting for him then the odds are expected to gradually goes down. At this rate, I might not even be EV+ anymore but its still decent promotions considering that you have chances of turning all those free spins into cash later

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Quote from: rdbase on June 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it. Cry

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 24, 2022, 04:14:13 AM

So, it turns out going against the grain in the NBA Draft Multimaster ALMOST worked out a treat heh. Went for "any other player" in selections where there was that choice (except Johnny Davis and Ousmane and they were all right wow)... 11/15 in total, not bad for not knowing anything about anything huh?

Only 1 player got 13, 2 got 12, 6 got 11. Damn

These were my WRONG selections:

Draft Position of Walker Kessler
Over 24.5

Draft Position of Jeremy Sochan
Over 11.5

How many Duke players drafted in Top 10
2

What Conference will Kennedy Chandler get Drafted into?
Eastern

Ha, well done man. I also got 9/15 correct which is mind blowing considering I never watched a single NBA or NCAA game in my life, never heard of any of the players and picked out answers on my mobile with little help from google to even understand some of the questions and then peaking at the odds to help me decide.

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^^
You did alot better than most who knew and are obsessed with NBA and their early draft selections.
Well done to you buwaytress man!

I didn't even come close with 6 right at the end of it all. Very disappointed but knew I wouldn't do so well once it started because I had the utmost favorite out of the whole thing to get selected #1 in the draft and he did not.
Paolo Banchero who was a 4-1 was picked overall going to the Orlando magic.
Not many saw that one coming, as from the interview afterwards, he didn't either.

Still have my Novak bet to look forward to for this weekend. Hopefully he makes it to the finals so to get those sweet free spins for everyone of his matches for the next few weeks.

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So, it turns out going against the grain in the NBA Draft Multimaster ALMOST worked out a treat heh. Went for "any other player" in selections where there was that choice (except Johnny Davis and Ousmane and they were all right wow)... 11/15 in total, not bad for not knowing anything about anything huh?

Only 1 player got 13, 2 got 12, 6 got 11. Damn

These were my WRONG selections:

Draft Position of Walker Kessler
Over 24.5

Draft Position of Jeremy Sochan
Over 11.5

How many Duke players drafted in Top 10
2

What Conference will Kennedy Chandler get Drafted into?
Eastern

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2022, 02:14:46 PM

Quote from: rdbase on June 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Yes Wimbledon has started today and the promotion is still eligible to be taken until the 26th so you still have time to opt-in and collection the reward for every win Djokovic has in the tournament:
https://sportsbet.io/promotions/2022-06-wimbledon-promo

Wimbledon has not started today, Wimbledon qualifications finished today and they started on Monday. We still have a couple of days before main thing starts.
Really curious to see if the intensity levels will be same as previous years or if it drop of a little, cause of suspensions and no points for ATP rankings.

Yeah the draws and qualification are still in progress.
Bet on a few matches and the special (djokovic was @1.73x) some of the top seeds were beaten in their first matches but are still being settled.
Watched a commercial a few days ago and thought it said June 23rd. But it was quite late at night and must of read it with blurry eyes as June 26th makes more sense (matches start late at night on the schedule I am viewing from) since it beings officially on the 27th of June.
Anyways, here are the exact dates from the venue sponsors IBM who are incharge of all these times for each and every timezone:
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/dates.html

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 21, 2022, 07:04:48 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on June 21, 2022, 03:34:26 PM

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Four rounds minimum should be doable, it'd be interesting if he goes all the way and wins it all. I'm more curious on how many free spins would it take for me to break even and get at least 1mbtc. Cheesy

Oh yeah I kinda forgot that its a slot free spins and yeah most of those spins are going to be trash so you'll need to land bonus round through those spins. Imo it could be 25 spins at $0.2 bet each for every time he wins because 0.25 mbtc is around $5 as of now.

I hope those spins are going to be stackable because I think its easier to land those bonus rounds if we have alot more spins rather than spinning with only 25 spins each day. Yeah it feels like fallacy at this point Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2022, 02:14:46 PM

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Really curious to see if the intensity levels will be same as previous years or if it drop of a little, cause of suspensions and no points for ATP rankings.

what to do you mean by intensity level?
I think that there will be fire, and fight for the title, neverminded no points taken for it

and there is a few contenders that can break a sweat and pass into second week, where it can get interesting (Norrie, Hurkacz)
with Berrettini in great form, and Novak as well (according to smash over FAA on exhibition), there is enough to expect good fight

Nadal is without chances here, IMO

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Quote from: rdbase on June 23, 2022, 05:50:13 AM

Yes Wimbledon has started today and the promotion is still eligible to be taken until the 26th so you still have time to opt-in and collection the reward for every win Djokovic has in the tournament:
https://sportsbet.io/promotions/2022-06-wimbledon-promo

Wimbledon has not started today, Wimbledon qualifications finished today and they started on Monday. We still have a couple of days before main thing starts.

Really curious to see if the intensity levels will be same as previous years or if it drop of a little, cause of suspensions and no points for ATP rankings.

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Yes Wimbledon has started today and the promotion is still eligible to be taken until the 26th so you still have time to opt-in and collection the reward for every win Djokovic has in the tournament:
https://sportsbet.io/promotions/2022-06-wimbledon-promo

Even though Novak is 1.71x odds it is still great to take the favorite to win this tournament compared to others listed:

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/tennis/atp/wimbledon-men-singles/wimbledon-men-singles-2022-60eb52b5febae447c8aee0da

I remember the last time they held this promotion with Osaka and Djokovic.
Really good way to get some freebets and now freespins!

Remember now is your last chance to enter in your selections for the free 4-3 promotions because the NBA draft is later on tonight.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 22, 2022, 08:17:53 AM

It would be even better promo if we could pick our own outright and then collect free spins on his wins. Berettinni would be my choice for sure then.

On the other hand there is nobody better than Djoković to collect wins against weaker opponents and we all know top seeds have easy rounds in the beginning.

Absolutely, that was how it used to be I think, even with Afcon (I remember, as picked Senegal, that was an absolute blast, won the outright and got all the freebets). Still, as you say, should be easy first 4 rounds and sounds like money back at least.

Quote from: morvillz7z on June 22, 2022, 09:31:30 AM

Does anyone remember the 2021 Australian Open Special? Great times! Both outright bets on Djokovic and Osaka won, plus 14x 1mBTC in free bets. It was one of their better promos in recent memory, not to mention BTC was shooting up towards $50k at that time. Then they lowered it to 0.25 mBTC per win at Wimbledon (2021) but it was still paid in free bets. I see it's now free spins instead... i really wish sportsbook-related promos, which kinda took a hit this past year in favor of the casino promos, would be paid out in free bets still.

Sure I do! Think Trofo also took both. I was just mentioning it in reply to him and then I saw YOUR comment Wink

Not only was it special for that, I also took home a 15/1 Djoko special in the same tourney, can't remember what exactly it was... not easy to look up bet history on Sportsbet but I also hit a 30/1 special on the same guy maybe in the same year or in 2020. I always saw great value in those, usually it's straight set win, something like more aces, and more break points, that sort of thing. Those were the days you plop down 1 mbtc on those specials just for fun haha.

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