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legendary
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And yes, I can confirm that we CAN'T have "best odds" on all events - there are no sportsbooks in the world who can have best odds on all events, otherwise they will need to close their businesses.
As an arbitrage better, I find that mBitCasino's sportsbook and nitrogensports consistently have better odds then you on every event. I never really find an arbitage opportunity between the 2 books, so it is possible for you to offer the best odds and still be +EV for the house. You guys just don't do it.

We are offering higher than average odds on all events and giving additional value by organizing promotions what gives real-money to real people.

Again, higher then average odds isn't the best odds. Would it kill you to change that in your original post? And no, not on all events. For the France vs Switzerland example, you guys had around @5 for Switzerland to win. The average was [email protected]. I found that you guys had higher then average odds for 2 selection, and worse odds for 1 selection for Soccer ML.

Basically I can say (and most of you will agree) that there are no other bitcoin sportsbooks who are doing anything like that for their players. So from my side I will call it "best odds".
Sure. There aren't any other sportsbooks that run promos like you guys do. There also aren't any other sportsbooks that still claim having the best odds and they know it when in reality, they are shit. (except bitgame, who also started advertising the best odds)
hero member
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i just visit the site on https://sportsbet.io/lotteries but i see there is wrong on the leaderboard



why the first rank is ThisCouldBeYou until rank 50 it still him

You just do not understand it imo, "thiscouldbeyou" is not a username. The new leaderboard is not started yet, that's why it is shown like that. Anyone could be on that leaderboard so they use "thiscouldbeyou"



LOL ThisCouldBeYou is very rich guy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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i just visit the site on https://sportsbet.io/lotteries but i see there is wrong on the leaderboard



why the first rank is ThisCouldBeYou until rank 50 it still him

You just do not understand it imo, "thiscouldbeyou" is not a username. The new leaderboard is not started yet, that's why it is shown like that. Anyone could be on that leaderboard so they use "thiscouldbeyou"
copper member
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The odds are slightly higher.
chance of being the 1st winner : 1/198, 2nd : 1/197 and so on till 26th : 1/173 (not 1/198 for every draw, if I understand correctly. Or can a ticket win more than once?)
I'm not completely sure on if you can be a winner multiple times. Nothing is stated in the terms against or for that ruling. In that case, then there need to be some changes that I can't be bothered to do.

Maybe I'll just run a simple program to do 1/n + 1/n-2 * 0.5 + 1/n-3 * 0.2 + 0.1 * (1/n-4 + 1/n-5 +  1/n-6) + [the 0.05 prizes here]

In a village of 1000, 999 have $1 and 1 has $1 billion. We can't say everyone is a millionaire.. (take the big prizes off for more realistic numbers)
But yes, we don't know if that one person has a billion.. and the lottery should be made provably fair.
Of course, I know about this obviously. I'm just applying statistics if everything is fair, even if it's not provable yet. Obviously the average person would not have that, but these are all theoretical numbers.

i just visit the site on https://sportsbet.io/lotteries but i see there is wrong on the leaderboard

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why the first rank is ThisCouldBeYou until rank 50 it still him
I'm pretty sure that's just due to the fact that they update later on. None of the competitions today have even begun yet, so obviously nobody can be on the leaderboard for now.
sr. member
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i just visit the site on https://sportsbet.io/lotteries but i see there is wrong on the leaderboard



why the first rank is ThisCouldBeYou until rank 50 it still him
legendary
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Initially, I also thought that sportsbet isnt fair because I never won any lottery since I joined, but hey, I finally got my lottery money. Thanks sportsbet.io. Yeah it sucks when you see same person win it many times, but do you just gamble to get free money only? I have gambled many times and I dont care about bonus or something else. If their deposit and withdraw are smooth, then its okay. If you just want to get easy money, I advise you to leave gambling. That's simple.
Again, thank you sportsbet.io, your customer service was fast and awesome when handling my issues! Surely will bet on tonight matches Cool
legendary
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Make winning bets on sports with sportsbet.io!
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Guys, the Knockout Stage of Euro 2016 is starting today!

Here are June 25th, 2016 matches (Round of 16) to bet on SportsBet.io:
SWITZERLAND v POLAND (15:00 CET)
WALES v NORTHERN IRELAND (18:00 CET)
CROATIA v PORTUGAL (21:00 CET)



And of course, the time is ripe for our new stage of promotions!

First of all some statistics:
- Within the group stage, we held 13 raffles boasting a 3,000 mBTC prize pool each, which means that the total prize of 39,000 mBTC was shared among our bettors;
- We also had 15 winners in our Leaderboard, where 4 lucky players received 8 tickets to semi-final games in France, and 11 other players shared 1.5+ BTC;
- Among all registered users we raffled 2 tickets to the FINAL game of Euro 2016, including the coverage of all flight and accommodation expenses.


From today through July 10th, 2016, we will:
- Hold 3,000 mBTC (and bigger for the final game!) daily raffles among all active bettors
- Run a Leaderboard with the 12,650 mBTC  prize pool for 50 best players.

So, there are really lots of winners coming!

WHO'S A WINNER?
YOU'RE A WINNER!
legendary
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Just because you didn`t win the lottery  does not mean that the lottery is unfair. I know a guy from the forum who won the lottery last week, just like other users posted above. Sportsbet is becoming one of the biggest sportbook and i have a great experience with their site so far.
legendary
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No panic, no panic!

While Euro 2016 had a brake for 2 days, our team also had a small brake - we worked 3 months without weekends to make this product live and needed some rest. But sorry that I didn't answer here for past day! Our live chat is still working for 24/7.

Ok, now let me try to answer and make things clearer. I'm sure there will be people who are complaining, mostly because they didn't win anything in FREE promotions (or sometimes they are just representing other sportsbooks). But, all of us already saw lots of btctalk users who are confirming their winnings. To be honest I don't think we need to prove anything - if you want to bet anywhere else, please do it. Our free promotions are giving additional value, but that's not the main goal of the site. Main goal is to have safe betting platform where we pay winnings fast, have 24/7 support to help with any questions, organize lots of betting options (what we are still doing, more markets coming soon). And there are zero complaints about these major points - we are always paying any amounts, we are always in the live chat to help everyone and we are always looking for any feedback of how to improve experience of our members.

And yes, I can confirm that we CAN'T have "best odds" on all events - there are no sportsbooks in the world who can have best odds on all events, otherwise they will need to close their businesses. We are offering higher than average odds on all events and giving additional value by organizing promotions what gives real-money to real people. Basically I can say (and most of you will agree) that there are no other bitcoin sportsbooks who are doing anything like that for their players. So from my side I will call it "best odds".

Regarding some proves of our fairness:

- Lots of users already wrote here. And we are doing big marketing campaign and getting players not just from btctalk (you can see our advertising on almost all major bitcoin related websites). I can of course ask all winners to register here and ask to prove their winnings, but I'm sure you will complain that they are newbies and can't have a word.
- If it will help, please ask moderators of forum to check IP's (or check user's history of messages) of those users who claimed that they are winning with us. Nobody from these users are somehow connected with us.
- And I already told twice that we are going to implement provably fair into our lotteries, it's just taking time. If we have developers here, they can probably confirm that when you are switching a new product, you have quite a lot of priority tasks. If people have issues with their bets, we need to firstly improve these issues, rather than prove to few persons that our lotteries are fair enough. Once again, if you think like that - choose another betting platform till you will be happy with us.

I won't answer on any other complaints about our raffles from this time. I already tired to answer, while there are still the same questions and I can't add anything new. It is up to you to believe it or not, till provably fair will be switched on.

Some other answers:
1. Regarding first leaderboard - all winners were contacted and from Monday we will organize everything with those who won tickets to semi-finals.
2. Regarding prediction promo on btctalk - all winners will receive their money within next hour (4 BTC in total for 11 users). For those who didn't know, we are sponsors of "official Euro 2016 group" on the forum and giving away 10 BTC for free for forum members. Hopefully there are no scam within free money... Please please please!
3. We are starting new promotions for Knockout stages of Euro 2016 and going to add more prizes. I will write more details in a separate message.

In conclusion:
All public issues are coming only regarding our free promotions. It is clearly showing that we need to stop doing them and focus on quality of sportsbook. So I can confirm already right now that we will reduce amount of free money what we are giving away. Thanks for all feedback and thanks for competitors - we won't step out and will continue doing the best possible bitcoin sportsbook for loyal customers.



legendary
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It is funny to see people are being so hostile here just because they dont win the raffle. Greed it seems could make people turn into hostile  Roll Eyes . Perhaps they should just stop the raffles and stop giving away free money to stop all the fuss in this thread, I dont see any sign of the account being shill though
Are you one of their shill accounts ? People are not being hostile ,they're just not being idiots.Buying everything what advertisers sell you.Aren't you the type of guy who invests money in return 500% in 4 hours Ponzi schemes ? You seem like that.The fuss is not about the lottery or the website.Hey I just placed another bet for the knockouts.The question is about delivering the "quoted" product.They can't just run fake advertisements to lure people into using the service.Infact,directbet.eu has better odds and better in terms of functionality,people are betting here with a hope they might just hit the lottery too.Where as,merely they're aware they're being cheated by the fake giveaways.Don't argue,give me proofs that the lottery is fair.

There is no way to tell the lottery is fair and neither there is a proof from you saying the lottery is not fair either. Stop showing your stupidity here, I can totally see that you are whining because you dont win the lottery . About me being a shill, I never win anything from the lottery either but I dont whine like you because I know its a game of chances, period
legendary
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I don't really care about the lottery as long as the site is not a scam per se. I have been winning on their site lately with only a 0.005 btc bankroll. They might not have the best odds as they advertise but still it's a nice site (not because I have their signature, lol). Just a suggestion, can you add a large pool of sports to bet with especially on esports?
legendary
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You can't know if a newbie is a shill account just because he is a newbie? Come on, everyone of us was a newbie at some point of time. Cheesy

The lottery is not provably fair. So we won't know if the lottery is really run as it is said. Well there are at least some people winning prizes usually the 50 mBTC one.

In addition to making the lottery provably fair, distributing 30 * 100 mBTC will be a really better prize structure. Grin



Statistically speaking,I bet everyday on at least a single match but I have won only once.I should win more right ?

Nope. With 100-200 tickets, the variance is high.

Bet amount/ wagered has no relevance. All the three times I won 50 was on 5 mBTC bets iirc, and the time I bet more, I didn't win.


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However, since there are 26 prizes, you have a 26/entries chance of winning the raffles.
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22.06 raffle has a 13.13% chance of winning

The odds are slightly higher.
chance of being the 1st winner : 1/198, 2nd : 1/197 and so on till 26th : 1/173 (not 1/198 for every draw, if I understand correctly. Or can a ticket win more than once?)



    
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On average that is 0.11528 each time you get a prize. [Theoretically speaking]

Which means that the average person (betting 0.005 per game) would see at this point [statistically] a profit of 0.197481032 [if they had lost their 0.005 every single time]

In a village of 1000, 999 have $1 and 1 has $1 billion. We can't say everyone is a millionaire.. (take the big prizes off for more realistic numbers)


But yes, we don't know if that one person has a billion.. and the lottery should be made provably fair.
legendary
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I don't think they give fake lottery, because i've won 3 time in different period. Maybe this people jealous just because they dont win the raffle. I think you must see and read the terms and condition to participate in the lotteries. And tips for you to get chance win lottery the ticket or your bet must be won.

Do you fuckin understand the definition of a damn lottery ? You have won three times ,great.All previous claims about people winning lotteries multiple times are more evident now.You seen to have staked a lot of cash right ? Or sportsbet.op likes you generously ?

Needless to respond everyone has their own opinion those who have already won some sweepstakes lottery considers fair
there are also some people want to see how the admin pick lottery winners   we should wait admin explain it all
legendary
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I don't think they give fake lottery, because i've won 3 time in different period. Maybe this people jealous just because they dont win the raffle. I think you must see and read the terms and condition to participate in the lotteries. And tips for you to get chance win lottery the ticket or your bet must be won.

Do you fuckin understand the definition of a damn lottery ? You have won three times ,great.All previous claims about people winning lotteries multiple times are more evident now.You seen to have staked a lot of cash right ? Or sportsbet.op likes you generously ?
legendary
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It is funny to see people are being so hostile here just because they dont win the raffle. Greed it seems could make people turn into hostile  Roll Eyes . Perhaps they should just stop the raffles and stop giving away free money to stop all the fuss in this thread, I dont see any sign of the account being shill though
Are you one of their shill accounts ? People are not being hostile ,they're just not being idiots.Buying everything what advertisers sell you.Aren't you the type of guy who invests money in return 500% in 4 hours Ponzi schemes ? You seem like that.The fuss is not about the lottery or the website.Hey I just placed another bet for the knockouts.The question is about delivering the "quoted" product.They can't just run fake advertisements to lure people into using the service.Infact,directbet.eu has better odds and better in terms of functionality,people are betting here with a hope they might just hit the lottery too.Where as,merely they're aware they're being cheated by the fake giveaways.Don't argue,give me proofs that the lottery is fair.
legendary
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Here is my ticket Cheesy
http://prntscr.com/bko5ik
Another shill account winning 500 Mbits twice.Any explanations from your side Sportsbet.io ? We have been waiting here since day 1 and sad to see no reply from your side.Making shill accounts to show your Raffle is fair won't help you earn any reputation here.Please respond to the accusations..

It is funny to see people are being so hostile here just because they dont win the raffle. Greed it seems could make people turn into hostile  Roll Eyes . Perhaps they should just stop the raffles and stop giving away free money to stop all the fuss in this thread, I dont see any sign of the account being shill though
legendary
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Here is my ticket Cheesy
http://prntscr.com/bko5ik
Another shill account winning 500 Mbits twice.Any explanations from your side Sportsbet.io ? We have been waiting here since day 1 and sad to see no reply from your side.Making shill accounts to show your Raffle is fair won't help you earn any reputation here.Please respond to the accusations..

Sportsbet.io/Coingaming.io/Bitcasino.io/Vegascasino.io, have you considered what will happen once the raffles stop? I'm betting that you will lose a lot of volume, as your book will become very -EV afterward. Yes, the raffles cause you to have the best value right now, but you can't run those forever. Also, you still haven't named an event where you actually offer the best odds in. Guess your words were empty.
Yes,I later figured that out all of them are owner/run by the same agency.This all looks like a big scam to me.All of the mentioned sites have had similar raffles in the past which means no one actually won the jackpots but their shill accounts.People are being fooled big time over here.Definitely not a trust worthy behavior.
legendary
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Still no changes in the original post. Please respond and prove that you have the best possible odds by naming a few major events or change it to something like best possible value/odds usually above average.

Does this thing eve matter anyway? Alot of sites claiming that they are the best casino around but they are not, alot of sotes claiming that they reward their user the most but they dont. Alot of other sportsbook including those in fiats claiming that they habe the best odds as well but they dont really have it, so it doesnt really matter though
Uh, yes it matters? I don't really count fiat sportsbooks in this one, since most fiat books have rapidly changing odds, and with a larger volume, they need to adjust their odds often based on what people pick, to balance the books. Here, changes are pretty rare and the odds stay similar through out the betting day. The biggest thing is that they lied, and basically admitted to lying by saying that they have only above average odds (again, not 100% true). If they lie about something like this, who knows what else they lie about. Possibly the raffles, which others have complained about already. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people actually believe they have the best odds. Erkallys is an example of someone who does, when they clearly don't.


Would you really trust your money who pays but makes fake Promise's and says hey look we are giving away 300 btc
Hey! Finally someone who understands that. The raffle thing is pretty serious, but don't forgot the "best odds" lie that they had, even before the launched.

Sportsbet.io/Coingaming.io/Bitcasino.io/Vegascasino.io, have you considered what will happen once the raffles stop? I'm betting that you will lose a lot of volume, as your book will become very -EV afterward. Yes, the raffles cause you to have the best value right now, but you can't run those forever. Also, you still haven't named an event where you actually offer the best odds in. Guess your words were empty.
legendary
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Sportsbet is good betting sport with big promotions
I hope will win prize in the future.



Indeed they have big promotions but there are some issues on their promotions :
1. The daily 3000mbt raffle : some users asked the fairness of the raffle.
2. The Euro Leaderboard : differrent leaderboards on mobile with on PC
3. The prediction promo, no winners announced yet and I smell something not good as Gianluca claiming as one of the winners with his edited post. In fact he said that members who edited their post are disqualified.

I hope sportsbet come here now to say something about the above issues.
hero member
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Sportsbet is good betting sport with big promotions
I hope will win prize in the future.
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