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Topic: Sportsbet.io "Soccer Blackjack" @ 21.00 odds - page 48. (Read 14918 times)

legendary
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Joined today's Serie A edition;)

Re yesterday. I actually stopped watching after HT, also thought it was going to be a solid bust and record-breaking 30+ points. Happy for the push at any rate, should probably thank City for not going for it (don't know didn't watch but assume from low corner count) or this would be the third bust after our second win so quick;)

But Newcastle, seriously, they should have and could have won that one!
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Well, what can I say, today we were very close to Blackjack ... At the end of the first half, 11 points was a clear signal that today we will see a bust, and on the 76th minute of the game, when we reached 19 points, this thought came back to me, (given the very dynamic game). But I never expected that in the remaining 20 minutes we would gain only 1 point!

Called it perfectly in the end even though it looked like a bust early in the second half. We had 19 in 66th minute. Absolutely unbelievable we got only one more point in last 30 minutes.
Edited: Lol, you read my mind! (maybe you are right about 66, since I haven't looked through the statistics from the end of the first half to 76).
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Close, it’s a push with 20
Called it perfectly in the end even though it looked like a bust early in the second half. We had 19 in 66th minute. Absolutely unbelievable we got only one more point in last 30 minutes.


That was so close, nearly at the edge of my seat watching the live score, wasn't expecting this amount of goals from both sides.

On the bright side at least we didn't go over.  Cheesy
I expected goals but not that many yellow cards.
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That was so close, nearly at the edge of my seat watching the live score, wasn't expecting this amount of goals from both sides.

On the bright side at least we didn't go over.  Cheesy
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Newcastle 3-4 Man City

Goals:  7
Cards:  4
Corners:  9

Close, it’s a push with 20
legendary
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I got in on this one for medium stake, have a feeling it will be a close one. Couple of games ago I would predict about 12 points with City winning 2:0. Now, after they already have title in their pocket I am expecting more fireworks. Nothing else to bet on today anyway  Grin

True , there are are few games today to bet and this seems to be the good one but I'm expecting Newcastle to score as City will try a few different styles to test them before the final in UCL. I think this and the reason that they already won the title will make them play without taking risk like having an injury or similar cases so Newcastle could produce a surprise today.

Regarding blackjack I see goals and corners and not so much yellow but you never know when things gets hotter on the pitch.
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I got in on this one for medium stake, have a feeling it will be a close one. Couple of games ago I would predict about 12 points with City winning 2:0. Now, after they already have title in their pocket I am expecting more fireworks. Nothing else to bet on today anyway  Grin
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FT: Granada 1-4 Real Madrid / Goals: 5, Cards: 6, Corners: 5 /  So this is a 16-point push.

Going to be loads of corners and cards, let's see where we go from here eh?
An excellent match that met my expectations in terms of the number of cards and goals, but I never expected to see only 5 corners in the La Liga Match.
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I posted something else here initially, totally imagining that it was going to be Manchester Utd vs Liverpool haha!

But it's just as good a game. Got a nice bet on Granada at about 8/1 and boosted on Sportsbet could have snagged you 9/1 earlier. Going to be loads of corners and cards, let's see where we go from here eh?

Granada vs Real Madrid
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/sportsbet-specials/daily-specials/soccer-blackjack/granada-cf-real-madrid-609d64fe40e07531e5f56d80
legendary
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Tonight's game could be United - Liverpool right ? I mean this is the game that should've played last week and as far as I remembered it was in the offer.

What I'm expecting from this game ?

First of all , I think both teams will score in 1st half and somehow Liverpool will snatch 3 points by the end of the game. Regarding blackjack, this game could really be around 18 with 4 goals , 11 corners and 3 yellow cards ( depends how rough Liverpool will play because United won't come to play rough ). Even if United has nothing to gain if they win, they will try and make the game as hard as possible for Liverpool and I'm counting on this because it will increase the number of corners.
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Chelsea 0-1 Arsenal

Goals:  1
Cards:  1
Corners:  10

It’s a push with 12.
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^Getting a bit offtopic here but since this is sort of small group I don't think anybody will mind. You know that saying that goes something like this: "There is lies, damned lies, and then statistics"? That is absolute truth and statistics is useful tool but it can lead you way off "real stuff".

When betting I am checking stats just as a way to confirm my hunch. I am relaying almost completely on my feeling about the current form of the teams and latest news about line ups. I am betting only on sports that I am watching every day (football, tennis and DOTA) at the moment and it works fine for me. It is important to find what works for you, we are all different and we have different strengths and weakneses.

Why Barca game was high risk for me:
For instance if my team was playing against Barca, I would not mind conceding corners. Do you remember last time when Barca scored from corner? They will almost always play it out which often results with another corner. Then you have a solid possibility for Barca to score 5 or 6 goals if they get going (not so much this season) + their opponents to collect a bunch of yellows. Due to the way Barca is attacking they also get a lot of yellows trying to stop counter attacks. More than enough stuff for me to tone down my stake a little. Now you can probably find some stats and refute what I wrote, it is certainly possible since above is just my feeling about Barca and it is influenced a lot with performances from past seasons and maybe it is not so relevant in this new Koeman Barca.

Good rule of thumb is that Premier League blackjacks will end with lover points then La  Liga ones. Premier league is the league with least yellow cards shown and their clubs give a lot of efforts to prevent corners and free kicks since there was a lot of teams relaying on set pieces to score goals.
legendary
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Used to think 8 or 9 was nice at HT but now maybe better to go max 7, right icopress?
My guess is based on my own observations, (in particular on the basis of 40 past matches in the framework of this event). In the first half, the teams try to stick to the planned strategy, the players are more collected ... while in the second half, fatigue makes itself felt, the players are more likely to make mistakes, which leads to cards and corners, (or to random goals). Yes, I agree with what else you need to take into account the level of the teams that meet [generally accepted standards] since the weaker the team, the more dirty the game.
I am playing all "safe" games for max 5 mBTC while I am playing "risky" bets for 1 mBTC. Safe bet is the one where I am expecting push and therefore I am quite certain I am getting at least my stake back. It actually helped me with Barca game since I placed it in risky group and played for smaller stake.
It will be necessary to somehow try out the tactics you are talking about (at least I will think about what criteria should be used to determine the risk zone). Since I am usually not guided by anything other than simplified statistics, I bet only as much as I am subconsciously ready to lose.

Where are you getting the 20 more games won stat from? Chelsea is 18-10-7 this season while Arsenal is 15-7-13 in EPL and h2h on Fotmob shows Chelsea with 13 wins and Arsenal with 11. The odds look about right to me.
Well, I'm not an expert in betting like you or Trofo, but nevertheless, in this particular case, I look at the statistics of each past match of the team I need.
Using sofascore.com I can see the details of each of the 10 recent Arsenal matches, and by simple counting, I derive the average for myself, (total points "/" number of games) the same can be done with Chelchi, then the average number of points for both teams can be calculated.

Although I admit that I have never calculated the individual average number of points, since such a calculation takes more time (in the format when the number of corners, cards, goals is counted, first for one team, then for another). In this case, based on the results of the last 10 games, the individual average for Arsenal is 8.4 points, while the average for all its opponents is only 5,7 points, (the average value of points in games with the participation of Arsenal "-" the average of Arsenal's individual points in the same games).
legendary
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Live: Chelsea FC - Arsenal FC / Good luck to us today! [matches with the participation of Arsenal gain an average of 14.1 points, 10 last]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/sportsbet-specials/daily-specials/soccer-blackjack/chelsea-fc-arsenal-fc-609bc41740e0757b956108f1

To be honest, I am surprised that bookmakers give a rather low rating to Arsenal's chances of winning, given that Arsenal have won 20 games more than Chelsea.

Where are you getting the 20 more games won stat from? Chelsea is 18-10-7 this season while Arsenal is 15-7-13 in EPL and h2h on Fotmob shows Chelsea with 13 wins and Arsenal with 11. The odds look about right to me.
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[...] I'll even be generous enough and not take any percentage of the win if the bet is a winning one.
This way I am already placing 5 mBTC bet and if BJ hits I would be pissed that I have to share profits [...]
If there was Blackjack, I would insist that you keep 30% for yourself, considering that I did not expect that you would kindly respond to my request to the detriment of yourself, (in the sense that my request was originally addressed to those who usually place bets without approaching the limit of 5 mBTC).
No problem really. I am actually playing a bit with my stake on this promo. I am playing all "safe" games for max 5 mBTC while I am playing "risky" bets for 1 mBTC. Safe bet is the one where I am expecting push and therefore I am quite certain I am getting at least my stake back. It actually helped me with Barca game since I placed it in risky group and played for smaller stake.

I am still undecided for tonight, waiting to see the line ups and then I'll probably forget to actually place the bet Smiley
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Live: Chelsea FC - Arsenal FC / Good luck to us today! [matches with the participation of Arsenal gain an average of 14.1 points, 10 last]

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/sportsbet-specials/daily-specials/soccer-blackjack/chelsea-fc-arsenal-fc-609bc41740e0757b956108f1

To be honest, I am surprised that bookmakers give a rather low rating to Arsenal's chances of winning, given that Arsenal have won 20 games more than Chelsea.
legendary
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[...] I'll even be generous enough and not take any percentage of the win if the bet is a winning one.
This way I am already placing 5 mBTC bet and if BJ hits I would be pissed that I have to share profits [...]
If there was Blackjack, I would insist that you keep 30% for yourself, considering that I did not expect that you would kindly respond to my request to the detriment of yourself, (in the sense that my request was originally addressed to those who usually place bets without approaching the limit of 5 mBTC).

This sounds like a good business for people that keep missing this out lol. Place a bet for that person and take 10% cut if it hits BJ and if it bust you get 100% back. Damn, too bad Im one of those people that keep missing this out lol otherwise I might be tempted to provide this service  Tongue
It was a kind of small service within the scope of our Blackjack party, therefore, if someone from this thread needed to go somewhere or take a day off, then I would also do the same as Trofo. So I see no reason to turn the discussion into a commercial context or a rule-breaking context, (of course, unless someone really tries to cooperate with each other, thereby trying to circumvent the established betting limit).

If I understood correctly, are they doing a third-party betting in a blackjack game? That's an unusual thing to do to be honest especially online where someone has a high possibility of running away with the money that you entrust to them, and they do it with blackjack.
I don't think that any of the regulars of this thread is abusing the trust of Steve or Sportsbet (If I knew that my message would create a precedent or lead to a series of inappropriate questions, I would probably refrain from such a request). In addition, I am sure that for many years the people present here have trusted each other with amounts much larger than 21mBTC or even 100 mBTC, (for this reason, I tend to think that you are either a supporter of stereotypes, or you reason as you yourself would have done if you were in a similar situation).
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If someone does want to turn it into a "business" (heh), just make sure to be really careful. I'm pretty sure placing bets for others is against T&C (see section 17), so doing this consistently probably isn't a great idea. They probably don't mind for a one time thing but you also probably don't want to get your sportsbet.io account banned  Smiley
If I understood correctly, are they doing a third-party betting in a blackjack game? That's an unusual thing to do to be honest especially online where someone has a high possibility of running away with the money that you entrust to them, and they do it with blackjack.
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