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Will be interesting too see which Team is more motivated today.
I personally think that 3rd Place Games are pointless and shouldn't be played anymore like in the European Championships.
I don't think teams in this position would agree because there is a handsome cash prize up for grabs to whoever comes in third place, besides such competitions are based on three tier positions which is gold, silver and bronze.

Really hope Argentina can win this tomorrow anyway was nice joining the pool and will surely join again if there is another competition.
Definitely was a great run till the next round of games, or maybe should I say back to the premier league. As for who should win tomorrow, honestly am neutral on this one.
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Damn, what kind of crazy game is waiting for us today? After Croatia scored such a quick goal I thought it would be much easier for them now as Morocco would have to go ahead and open up but Morocco immediately equalized. I predicted a 2-0 Croatian victory but Morocco quickly broke my prediction.
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I think its a shit game, for me this game doesnt have to exist. Because if you are a player, with how many force do you play this game? Its not at the same level to a competitive one.
Nobody asked you do play and with that attitude you wouldn't be accepted to participate in any village sport competition.
It must be a very good shit game with winner of this match getting bronze medal and extra $27 million reward!
Nobody remembers fourth place but people know first, second and third placed team.

Man, i understand your point but in football doesnt work that way, nobody remember the third place, in olympics yes its important but not in football.

Do you see the game for third position in UCL, in UEL in Libertadores Cup? No, doesnt exist. The third position thing its more a historical one from the amateur era.

I know for Morocco can be important being third, but for the world of football you will be remembered for reach the semifinal, no more.

Im a big fan of football and i dont remember without searching the third place of Mexico 86, Italy 90, USA 94 and go on.

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I think its a shit game, for me this game doesnt have to exist. Because if you are a player, with how many force do you play this game? Its not at the same level to a competitive one.
Nobody asked you do play and with that attitude you wouldn't be accepted to participate in any village sport competition.
It must be a very good shit game with winner of this match getting bronze medal and extra $27 million reward!
Nobody remembers fourth place but people know first, second and third placed team.

I think that croatia has more experience in this kind of matches.They know how to play big games but this one isnt important as much. But still its to be third in the world i think we can expect lots of goals from both sides and i think croatia will take the win aswell
Croatia likes to play against attacking teams and Morocco is very defensive oriented, so this match is mystery for me.
First match between this two teams was without goals, but this is very different conditions.
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Winner will be the team who is more mentally strong, but win for Morocco would be history for all African national teams.
If mental strength to be considered then Croatia to win, if motivation to consider then Morocco is going to win. No African team ever did it to make even a semi. Taking it to the third place will be the greatest of all for the people of the continent. Morocco team knows it. But judging at the type of game Croatia play, I think it could be a match where we will again see a tie breaker. Although in the pool I had different thought LOL. Let's just hope that it's not boring match.

But for Croatia and Morocco 3rd place would be big achievement and I expect that players of both teams will have motivation to fight fo it.
Croatia tasted the third place. For them it's another match but for Morocco it's the best chance to extend their greatness to set a little upper.
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Morocco odds are slowly going down, which doesn't make sense... injuries, tiredness... but I suppose the goalscorers are what bookies think will make the difference. Or maybe rest of the world is betting on Morocco?
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more bets on Morocco is pressing odds down IMO
but, with all seen so far, both teams have similar chances to win this match, and it is a different situation to group stage

and also, Croatia is tired also, not sure about motivation, they have finals and 3rd place in history, for Morocco this is similar to final

from my point of view, Morocco @3 has value to bet, Croatia below @2.6 does not have (not sure what will actually happen)
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Morocco odds are slowly going down, which doesn't make sense... injuries, tiredness... but I suppose the goalscorers are what bookies think will make the difference. Or maybe rest of the world is betting on Morocco?

It's football gerrymandering and money...
There is some OK level teams in Asia which currently don't qualify to World Cup and would benefit from expansion of tournament. Uzbekistan, UAE or China for example. They're better than weakest UEFA teams. But they would struggle against mediacore UEFA teams. Kazakhstan example shows it well - they never had real chance to qualify to major tournament through UEFA. Considering extra WC slots for AFC, I wouldn't be surprised if they will consider to return to Asian confederation.

Yeah, it's generally higher-quality when your national players play in better quality clubs, and AFC clubs are very weak in that respect outside of the ones you already know have deals to train with clubs outside, better infrastructure etc. I still think the it's sometimes a different proposition when national teams who play together a lot play against better ones that don't train together a lot.

Also because of formats, shorter tournaments like WC do benefit the underdog more -- a small sample of games, get a team overperforming for 2/3 games and you get out of group stage at the expense of one or two big teams.
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I think that croatia has more experience in this kind of matches.They know how to play big games but this one isnt important as much. But still its to be third in the world i think we can expect lots of goals from both sides and i think croatia will take the win aswell
We have more experience for sure, we actually played 3rd place play off match in 98' and won it, while this is the first time for any African nation to get this far in World Cup. We still have about 8 players that played in final game in last world cup so experience is definitely on our side. But this Morocco side showed a lot and was much more dangerous against France than we were against Argentina. Really though match to call so I will be waiting for line ups and then put some money on team that has less injury problems.
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Will be interesting too see which Team is more motivated today.
I personally think that 3rd Place Games are pointless and shouldn't be played anymore like in the European Championships.

Really hope Argentina can win this tomorrow anyway was nice joining the pool and will surely join again if there is another competition.
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I think its a shit game, for me this game doesnt have to exist. Because if you are a player, with how many force do you play this game? Its not at the same level to a competitive one.

Asides of this i think Croatia will win, for what i said above, Morocco team can go back to the normal, they lose that extra energy bring by make the impossible, or being the cinderella.

It depends a lot. For me, and for I'm sure a lot of people who know they will never live to see their country go far, this is going to be something special.

It's not just about size of country either. Like the press likes to point out, it's about the shit your country's people has to put up with on a daily basis. I know Moroccans if you are a normal guy your life is daily fighting, so sometimes, you have a day to celebrate your football team playing, you love it.

The players will also feel so connected in Morocco's case, but they are too tired and injured to make a difference I agree this is Croatia's day.
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Well yea, I think the same with Croatia but when we take a closer look to Marocco team and what they achieved so far , I think it's fair to say that they deserve 3rd place as well.

For me , it's hard to favorite one of these two , but I would like to see a penalty shootout between them as this is kinda the only way to have a well deserved winner as so far. However, I think Marocco deserves more than Croatia this 3rd spot as they sent home both Spain and Portugal...

While Morocco has been the revelation of this World Cup which surprised everyone which is fan of soccer with their performance I think that Croatia will have a narrow in today and my bet for today since it had a really high odd of 2.12 yesterday when I put it is both teams to score no.

I also think that if Croatia does not win we will most likely be going to penalties which will decide which team will be 3rd and 4th but if we go to penalties we saw that Croatian team never missed one against Brazil so most likely they are going to get the 3rd place if we end up in penalties.
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Well yea, I think the same with Croatia but when we take a closer look to Marocco team and what they achieved so far , I think it's fair to say that they deserve 3rd place as well.

For me , it's hard to favorite one of these two , but I would like to see a penalty shootout between them as this is kinda the only way to have a well deserved winner as so far. However, I think Marocco deserves more than Croatia this 3rd spot as they sent home both Spain and Portugal...
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Guys what are your predictions for tomorrow match Croatia vs Morocco?
Croatia have one day more to rest and prepare tactics and I think both teams are going to miss some players.
Winner will be the team who is more mentally strong, but win for Morocco would be history for all African national teams.

Dont forget to make your predictions in one more Sportsbet competition for final match Argentina vs France:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-world-cup-final-argentina-vs-france-sunday-5429483

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Good luck everyone.

I think that croatia has more experience in this kind of matches.They know how to play big games but this one isnt important as much. But still its to be third in the world i think we can expect lots of goals from both sides and i think croatia will take the win aswell
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@casperBGD Also definitely agree Asia getting 33% more slots than S America does seem a bit overrated -- but at the same time, this is AFC slots, I believe, which actually includes almost the entire Middle East (and Australasia). I've been saying for a while there are some Central Asian club outfits just a tick below the likes of Iran and Saudi who probably are at least as good as some UEFA and Concacaf teams (and the fact UEFA actually admitting Kazakhstan who left AFC).

And then apparently Russia is seriously considering to join AFC from UEFA, they'll probably take an extra spot.

It's football gerrymandering and money...
There is some OK level teams in Asia which currently don't qualify to World Cup and would benefit from expansion of tournament. Uzbekistan, UAE or China for example. They're better than weakest UEFA teams. But they would struggle against mediacore UEFA teams. Kazakhstan example shows it well - they never had real chance to qualify to major tournament through UEFA. Considering extra WC slots for AFC, I wouldn't be surprised if they will consider to return to Asian confederation.

I think its a shit game, for me this game doesnt have to exist. Because if you are a player, with how many force do you play this game? Its not at the same level to a competitive one.

Asides of this i think Croatia will win, for what i said above, Morocco team can go back to the normal, they lose that extra energy bring by make the impossible, or being the cinderella.
If we would have France and Argentina fighting for 3rd place, then I think that such game isn't needed at all. I doubt that they would be very interested to fight for it. But for Croatia and Morocco 3rd place would be big achievement and I expect that players of both teams will have motivation to fight fo it.
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Guys what are your predictions for tomorrow match Croatia vs Morocco?
Croatia have one day more to rest and prepare tactics and I think both teams are going to miss some players.
Winner will be the team who is more mentally strong, but win for Morocco would be history for all African national teams.

Dont forget to make your predictions in one more Sportsbet competition for final match Argentina vs France:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-world-cup-final-argentina-vs-france-sunday-5429483

Superbru standing changed and now sam00 is in first place.
Good luck everyone.

I think its a shit game, for me this game doesnt have to exist. Because if you are a player, with how many force do you play this game? Its not at the same level to a competitive one.

Asides of this i think Croatia will win, for what i said above, Morocco team can go back to the normal, they lose that extra energy bring by make the impossible, or being the cinderella.
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Guys what are your predictions for tomorrow match Croatia vs Morocco?
Croatia have one day more to rest and prepare tactics and I think both teams are going to miss some players.
Winner will be the team who is more mentally strong, but win for Morocco would be history for all African national teams.

Dont forget to make your predictions in one more Sportsbet competition for final match Argentina vs France:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-world-cup-final-argentina-vs-france-sunday-5429483

Superbru standing changed and now sam00 is in first place.
Good luck everyone.
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Maybe you dont know how or when this start to happen, but i know exactly. All this shit start with the argentinian Julio Humberto Grondona, he was the president of Argentinian association of football (1979/2014) and Vicepresident of the FIFA from 1988 to his dead in 2014.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio_Grondona

He was in fact the president of the FIFA and he was the man behind all the moneylaundry and a lot more of tricks.
He install a system in FIFA, to make all this possible, in the past the vote of the federation doesnt equal the same. For example the vote of the Argentinia, Brasil Germany etc counts for 10 and the votes of minor federations like Seychelles count 0.5.

So.... Grondona comes with his system (one probed in AFA) and say, look this its more democratic bla bla bla, and now all the votes are equals, so the big federations have one vote and the minors have the same 1 vote.
Then you can make all you need, its simply, you want a WC with 48 participants? EASY, i come to Burkina faso, Seychelles Kuwait, etc with a little bribery and say to you, took this and when the elections comes you voted in favor. So the big federations who doesnt want the format cant do anything against this.

Its easy and also cheap for the FIFA.
Now they collect all the money from massives events, destroy the players and big federations, and plus for all the world they sell the images of democratic and inclusive/diverse shit.

"Ohhh yes look now we have 558545 africans teams, 5448458 trillions minorities of Asia, and whatever you want." And all the press (paid) clapping.

This its the hard truth, i hope this stop, because i see this shit daily in Argentinian league now we have a tournament of 28/30 teams in first division, its a shit and this was installed trought the same method, and yes it was invented here. The excuses here was "to make the tournament more federal" because the mayority of teams are from Buenos Aires and Rosario. And now we have a low level tournament and we cant keep fighting against brasilian teams in Libertadores Cup, this plus the economic sittuation.

EDIT: i forgot one little and precious hint, Julio Humberto Grondona never learn ONE word of english...... imagine his power. A man who cant talk in english managing the world football in the dark.
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Only good thing? More matches to see to bet, and surely more people in the cities who host the tournament.
More money too. Big nations like India, China and many others will bring new cash-flow to FIFA.

They are even considering 12 groups with 4 teams and another one is to divide tournament in half and then winners of each half play in final.
8 groups with 6 teams in each group will do the calculation easier. There will be more matches in the group stage though. Each team will play 5 matches where they are playing 3 matches in the current format.
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I think you are wrong here. Businessmen just want such nonsense - after all, the more victories 8-0, the more shows and updates of records, when not just some historical Klose is the record holder, but the current player who successfully performed in the group stage  Grin It is clear that all this development goes from bad to worse, but what can we do.
Yes, but that only make more right our posture, we are the one who loves football, they only loves busines, and they are gonna kill the football if keep doing shits. (football its inmortal, but you know what i mean)

Also for the records, its a shit seeing records broken because you can score a ton of goals against shit teams, if one thing we have in the World Cup its you dont have so many chances to do things, and that make the WC unique.

By the way, do you remember that Infantino dreams (and tries to organize) of holding the World Cup every two years? Imagine this nonsense when, given the change in the format of the competition and the timing, the new average players will have 30 goals scored in the World Cups, while the rare legends of the past have more than 10.
They are really trying to kill football and I don't like it. But I see that the clubs are trying to resist this nonsense - most recently Infantino did not make voting on the new (naturally crazy) format of the Club World Championship - he knew that the clubs would not support it.

The problem with Infantino is that most of his decisions are often based on misplaced priorities and/or just a grand revenue generating scheme, that's the only thing I could think of with the World Cup being hosted every two years, there are far too many problems with the sports that needs tackling first before any form of proposed transformation or reorganization, for instance the main reason for hosting a world cup in a not so socially accommodating environment needs to be investigate first and from my perception and the level of restrictions the travelers had in the venue is absurd that the justification I could think of with the country level of social exposure is that FIFA were only financially motivated and not the sake of supposed general inclusion or indiscrimination.
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I know its not ended yet this World Cup but you realized, this its the last World Cup with this format?

Yeah, think I was pondering that very point just before we kicked off this one.

Then, I was saying the 3-team group format was laying the groundwork for all kinds of nonsense by the second game, though I've now learnt that this particular method is not finalised (I honestly can't see how it could work, just too many ways to collude).

@casperBGD Also definitely agree Asia getting 33% more slots than S America does seem a bit overrated -- but at the same time, this is AFC slots, I believe, which actually includes almost the entire Middle East (and Australasia). I've been saying for a while there are some Central Asian club outfits just a tick below the likes of Iran and Saudi who probably are at least as good as some UEFA and Concacaf teams (and the fact UEFA actually admitting Kazakhstan who left AFC).

And then apparently Russia is seriously considering to join AFC from UEFA, they'll probably take an extra spot.

It's football gerrymandering and money...
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