When is last day for register?
Well the league starts on the 6th so by then.
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July 25, 2022, 06:17:26 PM
Well the league starts on the 6th so by then.
July 25, 2022, 05:55:04 PM
When is last day for register?
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July 25, 2022, 11:13:42 AM
^^
Good to hear this @hilariousandco that we are near to that 50 player mark in the pool.
I could pay for 2 more new members to only for this pool who has not joined in yet.
Post your requests and I will send the entry fee and post the tx id to you via pm well before the deadline for these payments.
Because now is crunch time with only 12 more days left until the first match starts!
Good to hear this @hilariousandco that we are near to that 50 player mark in the pool.
I could pay for 2 more new members to only for this pool who has not joined in yet.
Post your requests and I will send the entry fee and post the tx id to you via pm well before the deadline for these payments.
Because now is crunch time with only 12 more days left until the first match starts!
Nice one. You should consider only paying for new users or ones that haven't said they will pay already so we can max out users. This will likely be the payouts as it stands at 40 players but I'd like to beef out the lower places a bit:
0.1
0.05
0.04
0.03
0.02
0.015
0.014
0.013
0.012
0.011
= 0.305
Or maybe we could add another one or two consolation prizes for 11th and 12th or something where you just win your money back since this will likely be the biggest pool participation we've had so far.
July 25, 2022, 09:00:17 AM
^^
Good to hear this @hilariousandco that we are near to that 50 player mark in the pool.
I could pay for 2 more new members to only for this pool who has not joined in yet.
Post your requests and I will send the entry fee and post the tx id to you via pm well before the deadline for these payments.
Because now is crunch time with only 12 more days left until the first match starts!
Good to hear this @hilariousandco that we are near to that 50 player mark in the pool.
I could pay for 2 more new members to only for this pool who has not joined in yet.
Post your requests and I will send the entry fee and post the tx id to you via pm well before the deadline for these payments.
Because now is crunch time with only 12 more days left until the first match starts!
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July 25, 2022, 04:28:25 AM
We now have 40 users signed up and a pot of 0.3. Lets aim for at least another ten to get it to 50 people. I will probably set the prizes based on 50 users as I think we should get that as a handful of people have said they will pay.
No. I will compile one today. If people can let me know if they plan to join that would be great.
Is there a list somewhere of the users who have joined the pool? And a list saying who has already paid and who is yet to do it?
No. I will compile one today. If people can let me know if they plan to join that would be great.
July 25, 2022, 01:52:04 AM
Is there a list somewhere of the users who have joined the pool? And a list saying who has already paid and who is yet to do it?
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July 24, 2022, 03:40:05 AM
We need just two more people for 0.3+ in the pot now. I know there's a handful of people that said they would pay so we should have much more than that by the start of the season but please pay ASAP if you can so I can sort the prize places out as. We're still about ten people away from 50 users though as well and I'd really like to get 50 players at least so we've grown the pool every year so so far.
July 22, 2022, 07:30:00 PM
5 more people for 0.3 in the pot now.
Last season I missed few weeks but still managed to get 11th spot. Not sure if I will be able to continue with all rounds but who cares. It's the prestige and fun that counts. Add me to the list hilariousandco. I will send the payment before the season starts.I'm sure those missed weeks last season would have sure got you some points regardless of how little it could have mattered.
So, why not put in your picks for the entire season all at once maybe over the next few days, I think they'd even be carried over automatically when you join the pool so it doesn't matter if put them in before or after joining the pool, then you can adjust the picks as you deem fit as the season progresses.
Liverpool to win the season title this year?
Guardiola is still in charge at Man City you reckon ?
July 22, 2022, 09:44:34 AM
5 more people for 0.3 in the pot now.
Let's make my hand dirty with this shit again. I was in a fence and not considering to join the pool as I do not give 100% commitment for it. Last season I missed few weeks but still managed to get 11th spot. Not sure if I will be able to continue with all rounds but who cares. It's the prestige and fun that counts. Add me to the list hilariousandco. I will send the payment before the season starts.
Liverpool to win the season title this year?
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July 22, 2022, 08:12:54 AM
5 more people for 0.3 in the pot now. Just over two weeks until the start so please get the fee in ASAP so I can work out the prizes in advance.
Yeah, I don't buy the luck excuse. It's all luck and educated guesses at the end of the day. BBC one doesn't exist any more. We used it for the very first predictor but they closed it down after the season finished. This was the final table:
I just remembered I think Skybet's SuperSix is also 40 points for the correct score and 10 for the correct outcome. That would probably be the best system for me. I agree that maybe 5 is a bit too much but there really should be a premium for an exact score. Maybe Superbru should offer the chance to change the scoring on the premium version. Anyway, we've probably exhausted the discussion and I wouldn't change from Superbru unless there was a site that was as good anyway.
More points for exact score = more skill involved. I see a lot of you claim that it becomes all about luck but I'd argue it's the exact opposite.
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
Yeah, I don't buy the luck excuse. It's all luck and educated guesses at the end of the day. BBC one doesn't exist any more. We used it for the very first predictor but they closed it down after the season finished. This was the final table:
I just remembered I think Skybet's SuperSix is also 40 points for the correct score and 10 for the correct outcome. That would probably be the best system for me. I agree that maybe 5 is a bit too much but there really should be a premium for an exact score. Maybe Superbru should offer the chance to change the scoring on the premium version. Anyway, we've probably exhausted the discussion and I wouldn't change from Superbru unless there was a site that was as good anyway.
July 20, 2022, 12:46:16 PM
I think we never come to a arrangement because we have a diferents points of view and this its ok its part of the life.
They think its more skill and us think its more luck.
I think we have one good argument in us side, if you see the odds are much higher for exact result if you bet, and that its because you have less in control , in other words you depend more in luck.
As i said that i also said you have a good point in this.
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I see that tactic in some users, but in the PL doesnt fit so good, because we have a ton of goals, but i give to you a point.
As i said before all can have arguments in favour or against. Its a difficult one.
They think its more skill and us think its more luck.
I think we have one good argument in us side, if you see the odds are much higher for exact result if you bet, and that its because you have less in control , in other words you depend more in luck.
As i said that i also said you have a good point in this.
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I see that tactic in some users, but in the PL doesnt fit so good, because we have a ton of goals, but i give to you a point.
As i said before all can have arguments in favour or against. Its a difficult one.
July 20, 2022, 09:28:56 AM
I don't understand why you think being close matters but not being exact. If you think being close matters and should get you extra points then getting the exact score should get you even more. Being close is just luck too. Predicting the correct score is relatively difficult and that should be reflected/rewarded in the points. It doesn't have be 5 but BBC's predictor of 1 and 4 was much better and actually had some diversity in the table.
No, I said that 'exact' should reward the most points. Anything else would be plain stupid.
What I did say is that I feel that if the result is 1-0, the difference in points between 2-1 and 5-0 should be equal or bigger than between 1-0 and 2-1.
More points for exact score = more skill involved. I see a lot of you claim that it becomes all about luck but I'd argue it's the exact opposite.
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
How would that work? What if the game ends 3-0?
What I'm saying here again is that a guy who said it will be 3-0 should get the most points, but in comparison a 4-0 guess is much closer than a 2-1.
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Anyway - we all have our opinions and it's perfectly fine. I will play anyway - I'm just talking about preferences.
And if you want logic behind why we feel that correct results are pure luck, just check this example:
If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
Im with you, its so much x5 in exact score, doesnt make sense. Exact Score its pure luck.
Lets take an example.
Player A: PLAYER B:
TEAM A - TEAM B (2:1) TEAM A - TEAM B (2:5)
TEAM C - TEAM D (3:1) TEAM C - TEAM D (2:1)
TEAM E - TEAM F (1:1) TEAM E - TEAM F (7:2)
TEAM G - TEAM H (3:0) TEAM G - TEAM H (4:0)
Correct results:
Match 1 : TEAM A BEATS 1:0
Match 2 : TEAM C BEATS 4:0
Match 3 : Draw 2-2.
Match 4 : TEAM G BEATS 4:0.
So in this example we can clearly see one player knows about football (player A) he put a totally nearby results as you can see, but with the new rules he still lose agains player B who puts a totally no sense results and only win because in one match and for pure luck he put a 4-0.
As you can see Player A make a good analysis also, because he put a clearly win to team G.
So i think its completly unfair give so much point for exact score.
Yes i know, if we give 3 points for nearby score, Player A can win in this example, but he doesnt make a huge gap against a player who play like a troll. And with only one exact score he can catch a "good player".
July 20, 2022, 07:33:23 AM
More points for exact score = more skill involved. I see a lot of you claim that it becomes all about luck but I'd argue it's the exact opposite.
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
If the table is close you can sort of "abuse" the fact that close results/results give by just doing 1-0, 0-1, 0-0 down the stretch of any season = boring.
I never tried BBC's predictor but 1/4 sounds fantastic!
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July 20, 2022, 06:05:43 AM
8 more users now for 0.3.
For me, close scores should be more relevant. Agreed on the 'City will win' argument, but it really matters whether you put 2-1 or 4-0. If it ends 5-1, means that the 1st player was wide off the mark, and the 2nd one was close.
I don't understand why you think being close matters but not being exact. If you think being close matters and should get you extra points then getting the exact score should get you even more. Being close is just luck too. Predicting the correct score is relatively difficult and that should be reflected/rewarded in the points. It doesn't have be 5 but BBC's predictor of 1 and 4 was much better and actually had some diversity in the table.
That's even worse than Superbru and the table would be even closer. It's far too close already and there's only mere points between winners, often only being ten or twenty points halfway down the table. This is a correct score predictor after all.
In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).
For me, close scores should be more relevant. Agreed on the 'City will win' argument, but it really matters whether you put 2-1 or 4-0. If it ends 5-1, means that the 1st player was wide off the mark, and the 2nd one was close.
I don't understand why you think being close matters but not being exact. If you think being close matters and should get you extra points then getting the exact score should get you even more. Being close is just luck too. Predicting the correct score is relatively difficult and that should be reflected/rewarded in the points. It doesn't have be 5 but BBC's predictor of 1 and 4 was much better and actually had some diversity in the table.
I'm not saying 'ditch correct score bonus' though - I'd just like if it was smaller. 1 point for guessing the outcome, 2 for close result and 2,5 for correct one would be perfect IMO.
That's even worse than Superbru and the table would be even closer. It's far too close already and there's only mere points between winners, often only being ten or twenty points halfway down the table. This is a correct score predictor after all.
July 19, 2022, 09:49:37 AM
In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).
For me, close scores should be more relevant. Agreed on the 'City will win' argument, but it really matters whether you put 2-1 or 4-0. If it ends 5-1, means that the 1st player was wide off the mark, and the 2nd one was close.
I like the example from darxiaomi - shows just how powerful luck can be.
I'm not saying 'ditch correct score bonus' though - I'd just like if it was smaller. 1 point for guessing the outcome, 2 for close result and 2,5 for correct one would be perfect IMO.
July 19, 2022, 09:18:10 AM
If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
Im with you, its so much x5 in exact score, doesnt make sense. Exact Score its pure luck.
Lets take an example.
Player A: PLAYER B:
TEAM A - TEAM B (2:1) TEAM A - TEAM B (2:5)
TEAM C - TEAM D (3:1) TEAM C - TEAM D (2:1)
TEAM E - TEAM F (1:1) TEAM E - TEAM F (7:2)
TEAM G - TEAM H (3:0) TEAM G - TEAM H (4:0)
Correct results:
Match 1 : TEAM A BEATS 1:0
Match 2 : TEAM C BEATS 4:0
Match 3 : Draw 2-2.
Match 4 : TEAM G BEATS 4:0.
So in this example we can clearly see one player knows about football (player A) he put a totally nearby results as you can see, but with the new rules he still lose agains player B who puts a totally no sense results and only win because in one match and for pure luck he put a 4-0.
As you can see Player A make a good analysis also, because he put a clearly win to team G.
So i think its completly unfair give so much point for exact score.
Yes i know, if we give 3 points for nearby score, Player A can win in this example, but he doesnt make a huge gap against a player who play like a troll. And with only one exact score he can catch a "good player".
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July 19, 2022, 08:37:44 AM
If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
In my opinion it's the opposite. It's much easier to guess the outcome correctly but very difficult to get the score right and that should be rewarded accordingly. If Liverpool or City are playing then you can safely assume that they're likely to win. That's no surprise. However, there's much more skill or knowledge involved in getting the exact score right and that should be reflected in the points. Superbru's scoring leads to a table that is far too close for me, especially when you get half a point for a close score. If I was going to score my own I would probably do 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 for the score. I believe this is what the BBC Predictor scored (though they gave 100 and 400 points).
Maybe we can do a test run of the other site and get a handful of users to join into both pools and we can see how the tables differ or which site we prefer.
I played a bit around with the kicktipp.com website and found this:
Thanks. I will try it later.
July 19, 2022, 08:12:11 AM
If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
Fair point, I'd be fine either way. What I put in were just examples to demonstrate that changes would be possible if the community desires to do so.
July 19, 2022, 07:35:12 AM
If I may offer my 2 cents here - I really dislike heavy focus on correct scores. It mostly comes down to luck and I hope we won't take a path in which a correct score carries 5x points than the correct outcome.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
I hate that shit with passion and I actually feel Superbru has a fair system for it - you also get rewarded for close scores. I'd just make it 1; 2; 3 instead of 1; 1.5; 3.
July 19, 2022, 06:58:04 AM
We need 7 more people now until we have 0.3 in the pot.
Thanks for the link. I checked it out but I'm not sure where you get to change the points awarded. It seems to mention a standard 2 points for the outcome, 3 for a close and 4 for the correct score and the 'Rule or Nine':
Whilst I think I would prefer something along the lines of 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 or 5 for the exact score the site seems a little basic and laggy. Do you have previous experience using the site?
Hey guys,
was reading up on the thread and found that you can't change the parameters. I do believe it should be possible with this provider. That is what we are going to use for the German Bundesliga prediction game. Checked whether there is an English version of it and this is what I found. Hope this might still be of help!
https://www.kicktipp.co.uk
I am onboard as well, tx-id was sent to @hilariousandco.
Cheers!
MV
was reading up on the thread and found that you can't change the parameters. I do believe it should be possible with this provider. That is what we are going to use for the German Bundesliga prediction game. Checked whether there is an English version of it and this is what I found. Hope this might still be of help!
https://www.kicktipp.co.uk
I am onboard as well, tx-id was sent to @hilariousandco.
Cheers!
MV
Thanks for the link. I checked it out but I'm not sure where you get to change the points awarded. It seems to mention a standard 2 points for the outcome, 3 for a close and 4 for the correct score and the 'Rule or Nine':
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For the rule "Example "Rule of nine"", the following score results:
Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-2" -> 0 Points (wrong tendency)
Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-0" -> 3 Points (Home win goal difference)
Result: "1-1" - Tip: "0-0" -> 3 Points (Draw tendency)
Results: "1-2" - Tip: "1-2" -> 5 Points (Away win result)
Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-2" -> 0 Points (wrong tendency)
Result: "2-1" - Tip: "1-0" -> 3 Points (Home win goal difference)
Result: "1-1" - Tip: "0-0" -> 3 Points (Draw tendency)
Results: "1-2" - Tip: "1-2" -> 5 Points (Away win result)
Whilst I think I would prefer something along the lines of 1 point for a correct outcome and 4 or 5 for the exact score the site seems a little basic and laggy. Do you have previous experience using the site?
I played a bit around with the kicktipp.com website and found this:
I guess that is what we are looking for? You can tweak the parameters any way you want, but you can't set the goal difference to zero as it then says "value can't be lower than tendency". I find the interpretation of the table a bit confusing this way, but I guess it pans out to 1 point vs 4 points in any case of success (not 1 point vs 2 points vs 4 points). This way it looks a bit like you could score two points with tendency + goal difference while you are at an automatic disadvantage when you select draw because of the implied goal difference being zero anyway. I am sure that's taken care of.
I don't know about the performance though. It doesn't seem to be laggy to me so far, but no real experience with it thus far.
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