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This has escalated so quickly - if I understand you correctly, you're accusing the Cro2 team of changing your answers in the spreadsheet, and how is that even helpful to anyone? This isn't something that can be manipulated behind the scenes; it's a real-life sport, and no one knows what the outcome will be.

For goodness sake, this type of discussion is not helpful for the competition. The Cro2 team are doing an excellent job, and the rules are being enforced on a level playing field for all. These individuals aren't receiving the credit they deserve for being part of a team that spends hours every week cracking and writing questions for us while also updating a spreadsheet after every fucking game. They did not deserve that.

So, I guess I already eliminated from cup. I'm down 0:3, 2 questions remaining and only one of it is different from my opponent. Well, shity seasons continues...

I don't mind having futsal questions, but there isn't many games that would be really big. As said, maybe final 4 of CL or EURO/World Cup. I watch local league games sometimes, it's quite interesting. What is downside that lot of time ball isn't in play, though, clock is stopped then, not like in big football.
I heard about Kings league, it have quite big interest in Spain, but I don't look very seriously in such league, it's more entertainment than sports. Something similar like boxing or MMA between Youtubers.

This first sentence really bothers me since I am quite sure I never said or acted in that way. Unless maybe in some joke but I am trying to be extra careful when writing that stuff because there is always someone who doesn't get it. This is gambling section and I treat it like a pub place, meaning safe place for me and I am not choosing my words carefully. I leave that for situations when I have to speak with my wife or mother    

We are really having so much problems to enforce the rules fairly for all concerned that it is starting to get real bothersome. Do you think we enjoy giving penalty points for late submission or plain nonsense answers? That is just extra work which we would rather skip. Is it that difficult to spend a few seconds to at least google the teams competing in some question? Or that we enjoy sending reminders to people that don't submit on time? Hell it is the same deadline every week from the start of it.

This league is intended for true sports fanatics and it demands some dedication from all participants. I am quite sure we will get more strict with time. Probably baby wheels off from next season. No reminders and direct 3:0 without fight for late submitters. But then we get to the problem of regularity if somebody is late often so that probably means we have to start to kick out people which we did not want to do.

This situation is perfectly clear. You submitted on time and got all answers wrong. If I had 7 correct, it would have been 7-0. I got 3 correct, so it's 3-0.

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There's a lot of stuff that has been said, some of it incorrect, but I really don't want to play ping-pong with you around this.
Also - please don't pinpoint one of us out. What Trofo writes I concur with, what I write he concurs with.
We never run any campaign or competition in a way that you described how Trofo does it and I really don't appreciate that kind of talk. It is untrue and childish.

Basically, it all comes down to this:


And it is correct.
I purposely crossed out the idiotic part of it. If you really think that there's a personal incentive behind awarding someone a bigger goal difference, then you live in a world that I'm unable to comprehend.

Now let's discuss the important part - why it isn't rule based and is subjective.

Considering that we had 16 new members joining, from which a lot is from Clubhouse and don't really read Bitcointalk, we decided we don't want to introduce a harsh penalty in which you instantly lose 3-0 if you're late this season. We'll introduce it next season and we have already said that multiple times.
Because of that we find ourselves in difficult situations every time somebody submits late.
In some rounds you lose 5 points if you're a second late and in some just a point, some rounds have 4 H2H questions and some have 1. Sometimes people submit on Fridays and are eligible only for 1 question.
We need to balance goal difference in a way that is fair to all participants and sometimes it means that you will get fucked over. This is a decision we won't be apologizing for, it's just something that has to be done this season because it's the lesser of 2 evils.
It is not intentional, it is not you we're targeting, it's because we can't make a fair rule at this point that would be beneficial for the competition. It's either 3-0 which would happen too often or balancing how to grade big results when somebody is late.

I already told you - 9 out of 10 LFC_Bitcoin's answers were invalid at the time of his submission. If you think you should have won 6-0, you are being selfish and are putting yourself ahead of the competition.
Paradoxically, you're accusing us of having an agenda whereas you're the one that's forcing something with no logic behind it whatsoever.

Bottom line - you see some sort of agendas against you that simply don't exist. If you want to continue with it feel free to do so, also feel free to yell from your balcony what a shitty job Cro2 is doing if you'll feel better.

We run a fair competition - to the best of our abilities. Getting slammed for f&%king you over goal difference? For fuck sakes, man.

Check out this round then between me and cryptofrka. None of my 10 answers, provided in time, was correct.

I am not speaking on codes. Trofo already made clear that what he wants to happen, will happen. And what he doesn't want to happen, won't happen.

I only ask that the rules be applied to everyone equally. I could now provide you several examples where you strictly decided otherwise, but in my case made it a 3-0. Why even point out which answers don't count when in the end you make it a 3-0 anyway?

Assuming I had pulled another 0-pointer as I did against cryptofrka, you would have made it a draw 0-0. Either way, my round against LFC_Bitcoin is the only round that was valued 3-0 despite the fact that his submission was not invalidated in full.

I could bring up a lot of examples now where you consistently applied the rules. Now I wonder where you drew the line? Why wait until the round was finished and then turn the high score into a 3-0? If someone fails to submit, a 3-0 makes sense. But you did accept the submission and explicitly stated which questions will not be counted. You gave it some time to see whether I'd have a messy round, then made your decision. Limit the upside, unlimited the downside.

Trofo, I really don't care whether you apply rules consistently or not. Do whatever you think needs to be done. But it is important to raise the issue at least once. Bending the rules based on subjective judgment is against my understanding of a fair competition. But you know, when there is some incentive, people come up with their own logic. My logic is one rule for everyone. Your logic is what you say will happen, will happen. 

You also decided to give me a penalty point for my mistaken submission with this one DOTA question and that is totally ok. Not gonna complain about it because those are the rules and they have been applied that way. I could have explained my personal reasons, but my personal reasons don't matter in the face of the set of rules that we have implicitly explicitly established. Your judgment to make the round a 3-0 against LFC_Bitcoin wasn't rule-based. It was your subjective opinion driven by personal incentive.

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Not long ago I was asked via PM what I think about Cro2 and whether you are doing a good job. I said yes, doing a very good job and trying to be as fair and precise as possible. No reasons to complain and certainly recommend them as project managers. Well, I will leave it at this.

That's true. But I like familiar questions better than those that I have no idea how to research and answer. For example women's football. There are not many websites with statistics about it so it's hard to do the research.

As for Dinamo - AEK, I wouldn't say that odds are on Dinamo's side. AEK has grown significantly in the last few years. They managed to win against the best Greek teams like PAOK who they beat in the cup 2-0 even though one of AEK's players got sent off in 6th minute. It will definitely be an interesting game to watch.

familiarity with a question usually bring in bad result for me
not sure about Dinamo and AEK at the moment, I would say without checking that chances/odds should be on Dinamo side to come through

looking at tennis, it is a question will any favorites go through to SF, Fritz playing Murray, and Eubanks in round after that

rest day for my squad too, down one point, looking forward to Feyenoord, but don't have good feeling about this cup round

I'm looking forward to that question. Finally something that I'm somewhat familiar with and not women's football

So now we can rest until tomorrow's game of Feyenoord and PSV. I'm down one point so I hope that it goes my way.

I have secured the qualification to the next round of the cup after winning in the tennis question, I have had a good run between the cup and BSFL the last 4 games

Nope, the odds weren't attractive at all. I did bet on Dinamo to win the first game, should have went with them to win yesterday as well.
Astana is a terrible team but I decided against it, because we tend to play horrible when the qualification is secured - which was the case before yesterday's game.

The next opponent is AEK - a team of similar quality. I think the cnances here will be 50-50, and you'll have this matchup in the BSFL for sure

Me too, obviously though most of us felt the same way, I even wasn't familiar with any of the player names except one, but then I don't really follow tennis. Auger completed 2 out so majority of us get points but also majority of us have opponents doing the same


I know about this league and it was even popular covered on tv for a time, but I won't have any edge if it comes out, don't even follow it!

if I knew you are open to it, I would put Kings league as proposal

not sure if you heard for that one, it is a seven/seven football, established by Pique, and pretty popular in Spain

nevertheless, Summer split final was last weekend, and next season beginns in January 2024, so pretty much useless to write about it at this point

I forgot to place my bet on time. I didn't know that they will be playing at an earlier time than what is normal (at least for us in Croatia) so when I was looking to place my bet, the game had already started. Too baš that I missed because it was an easy bet. The odds probably wasn't something specialty, but I don't think that Astana could ever score 5 goals against Dinamo in one game.

You are getting them for sure, just waiting for later stages of some big competition like CL or maybe next EURO or WC. To be fair I never watch futsal except a game or two during EURO or WC and it is notoriously hard to call when equal teams meat while odds are totally useless when somebody is a favorite.

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Really needed this one week break for my team, feels like training is doing wonders and I expect to reach new heights in following rounds 

There is a lot of surprises still coming up in the female World Cup, and I believe expanding it to 32 teams now makes a lot of sense because some of the teams that qualified wouldn't have had a chance if we were still was 8 or 4 teams short., I can't believe Jamaica advancing in a group with France and Brazil, and more so they did it by just scoring 1 goal, and conceding none from all 3 matches, crazy and surreal! and We probably should expect the same of the Men's world expanding to 48 teams, the world seems to be catching up real fast with these football powerhouses.


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As for Tennis question all it took to get the final result "0-2", was just a matter of the top 4 seeds playing their first, now we have the number 3 and 4 seeds eliminated already

Penalties are always testing the nerves and Ludogorets players didnt have them, but lucky for me because I answered correctly this question and I am doing good so far in Cup round.
I didnt watch any games from CL qualifications but I saw a bunch of goals scored in this two days.

I hope you are not going to add that 5 on 5 futball questions in future BSFL rounds  

Dont use your mind when you pick winners in this stage
Did you guys bet on D.Zagreb to go in next round?

Yes and also Ludogorets its always a regular one on final qualification phases of Champions League or group stages of Europa League, for that i picked them to win asides of them being in away condition.

The owner of the team its not gonna be happy, i have some clues about he is a very important busines man of Bulgaria.

IMO, England will win it
didn't looked much, but they seem best,  especially looking at that 6:1 win over China, that once dominated women football

if have to pick an underdog, Jamaica is certainly one, hopefully they will stand against Brasil till the end, and pass through into next round, and then everything is possible
Brasil is on a verge to be eliminated, half hour to go, odds for Brasil to win @1.7 currently and rising, and they need it to advance over Jamaica
Jamaica still didn't conceived on WC

edit: Brasil is out

Damn women's football! I think I have never got right any of those 50-50 questions. If I go with Yes, the right answer is No. Now I'm down 1 point and I have to hope that Auger-Aliassime can lose today to even the score between me and Danydee.

And there we have it, gentlemen. One favourite (Italy) already smashed to smithereens by their far less fanciful opponents in the Women's WC. Happy to get that one right... anyone else fancy Japan to win this edition? Tournament favourite USA can't seem to score. Japan have been the most clinical (beating a really superstar Spain team way, way taller than them with a huge scoreline) -- I think they just need to overcome Norway (who just woke up) and I think they have a great chance.

1 point to me, Harko, watch out!