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@Ige thanks, Watford will win 1-0 ugly!

Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

if they need to win, better to see it 1:0 ugly win
worst would be to have their win combined with over goals

but there is a history, Watford has only one lost match in last 16 season openers, while QPR haven't lost last seven matches against Watford

If the game doesn't end goalless then, I'm pretty sure it will be Over for the goals, going with QPR was an easy decision for me, and I didn't even check the odds, maybe this time, I'll edge my by going for Watford to win and Under 1.5 goals, because Watford aren't going to keep a clean sheet if they manage to win the game, QPR are the second team with the highest most conceded goals in the league last season. but Watford have lost the two highest goal scorers they had last season in Joao Pedro and Ismaila Sarr, so it's should be a struggle today, I reckon.
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@Ige thanks, Watford will win 1-0 ugly!

Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

if they need to win, better to see it 1:0 ugly win
worst would be to have their win combined with over goals

but there is a history, Watford has only one lost match in last 16 season openers, while QPR haven't lost last seven matches against Watford
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@jayce it was a great round, but I think I am through to the next stage, as we have the same answer for Watford and don't need therefore to play penalties. Tennis for sure saved me early on Smiley

Now only to wait whether to meet Woodie or CLS63!!
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I'm out of the Cup as well, a clean victory for MAAManda who's actually dangerous when he remembers to submit his answers Grin
He's got all 4 correct so far so I've got nothing to complain about, I could have done a little bit better but in these quick 5-question rounds it's hard to turn things around if it starts the wrong way.

"Who's actually dangerous when he remember to submit his answers" LOL. Trust me mate, I'm just lucky in this cup round because the questions are mostly filled with questions about football, so it's not difficult for me to be a little ahead of you. Look how I'm doing in the league, what a shame Cheesy. I hope we'll have similar questions in the next round of cup.
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Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

We go one by one and skip the first one that makes sense. In this case, you already did a Beckham with your 5th penalty (over or under 3,5 bookings).

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I'm out of the Cup as well, a clean victory for MAAManda who's actually dangerous when he remembers to submit his answers Grin
He's got all 4 correct so far so I've got nothing to complain about, I could have done a little bit better but in these quick 5-question rounds it's hard to turn things around if it starts the wrong way.
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@Ige thanks, Watford will win 1-0 ugly!

Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

Don't let me down the second time- you are so difficult to fan.

I assume you've already missed one leg of your PK (Nunez miss), or would it be considered an invalid answer? I don't know that deep down in my throat. Only the FA (Cro2) can provide you with the desired answer. However, I don't see the game going into PK..

@Harko
QPR are real mess you should know that.
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Ooo Harko, nice comeback for you thanks to the general shyness of the Dutch teams on display last night. The good news is, we don't have to wait any longer for the Community Shield as we have 2-2 and the final question differently answered. Can't believe I've gone on to hoping for Watford... again!

@Ige thanks, Watford will win 1-0 ugly!

Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

No way that's gonna happen, I mean a 1-0 Watford win, it's going to be a barren draw, quote me on this  Tongue

On the penalties question, You actually missed one Over/Under question, if both options goes Over then it's only right that you get one point, but if a question goes over and the other goes under, it's only right that you miss both, because the problem is that there is no way they can actually which one of the Over/Under you answered and the one you omitted hopefully it won't be needed in this case, and I just get the win without stressing you into penalties  Wink
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Ooo Harko, nice comeback for you thanks to the general shyness of the Dutch teams on display last night. The good news is, we don't have to wait any longer for the Community Shield as we have 2-2 and the final question differently answered. Can't believe I've gone on to hoping for Watford... again!

@Ige thanks, Watford will win 1-0 ugly!

Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh
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Parity restored, Damn! You survive until tomorrow, at least before I get your ass whopped for real...

And Oops there is a mistake on your final submission for the penalties questions, you didn't answer all the questions, and It would be a real shame if that had to be the deciding factor here, and I also noticed there are a lot people that made the same mistake.

He went with Watford and under 2.5, which I think will happen, I don't think QPR will gain a point in that game. This was by far the most difficult question in this round, and I'm glad I beat my opponent earlier. I hope both teams lose (which is impossible). I can't wait to meet either of you on my journey to success. 

buwatress you have my undying support! I don't want Harkorede to be a problem to me. Whop his ass.

@Darx see you in league. Your cup journey ends here.
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And there we have it, gentlemen. One favourite (Italy) already smashed to smithereens by their far less fanciful opponents in the Women's WC. Happy to get that one right... anyone else fancy Japan to win this edition? Tournament favourite USA can't seem to score. Japan have been the most clinical (beating a really superstar Spain team way, way taller than them with a huge scoreline) -- I think they just need to overcome Norway (who just woke up) and I think they have a great chance.

1 point to me, Harko, watch out!

Parity restored, Damn! You survive until tomorrow, at least before I get your ass whopped for real...

And Oops there is a mistake on your final submission for the penalties questions, you didn't answer all the questions, and It would be a real shame if that had to be the deciding factor here, and I also noticed there are a lot people that made the same mistake.

It's supposed to be 8 questions, most people answered just 7 or maybe less and it's going to quite hard tricky to even grade them, I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
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It looks like I'll be kicked out of the cup early. The Feyenoord - PSV game is still goalless after 57 minutes.
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it ended 0:1
PSV took Supercup, and although I missed the match, it seems that it was good to watch, according to statistics

for me, it is back into the match, since I equalized result, and looking forward to Watford and QPR tomorrow, if that was for Southampton, my took on away win would be solid, but QPR is lousiest team, hopefully they will at least keep their net good, so there will no much goals
may the best team win into our cup duel
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It looks like I'll be kicked out of the cup early. The Feyenoord - PSV game is still goalless after 57 minutes. I'm following it on the mobile app and they just had two goals canceled. First was Feyenoord's goal and after few minutes it's PSV goal that was canceled. I'm not sure what's going on but it doesn't look good for me Sad
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Yes Igebotz you have the win in your hands but the games seems far of us.

Tonight's game will decide your fate; I just need 1-2 goals to knock you out of the cup, and  bet your 2mBtc on Jackson to score two or more goals against Liverpool this weekend.
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Ohh man, i dont come to read closely the thread for one day and we have so much drama.

Well i hope everything its fine and we can continue with our competition.

Yes Igebotz you have the win in your hands but the games seems far of us.
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@mv1986 I get your drift and you do have a point from an angle, but since we've never had an opposing scenario, we just would never know what the decision would have been, but what would you have clamored for if all the answers you submitted were wrong and the said opponent only valid question was correct, would you have agreed he should be awarded the win (@cryptofrka and @Trofo, what would have been the decision in that case, because I don't think we've been there before, and it's just a matter of time, if we keep having late submissions before we have one), and this has actually been discussed a couple of times already, there isn't a fair measure that favors everyone, I lost or drew a match a few rounds ago, when I could say the asked question should have been void and I would have been right but others too would have a point as to why the question should remain valid, but to be honest, any decision made about cases like this as it negatively affects one person, it positively affects the other.

If you submit all on time and everything is incorrect and your opponent submits only 1 answer and it is correct, it would mean that he'd win 1-0, and get a negative point.
Not something we want to see ever happen and the chances are we won't. It will be impossible from next season anyway.

To just make this whole situation of going back and forth over with, I would suggest an immediate implementation of late entries being null and void all together and not just a couple of questions, especially for division 1 and 2 players, since those divisions are not filled with first time participants.

Will be from next season - if we did it now some players could make an argument that it's not fair that we switched it mid-season, and we agree with that.
All major rule changes will be seasonal.

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We are sorry that some things aren't set in stone, we knew the risks when we implemented lenient rules for this season.

Example - we're really close to losing DireWolfM14 from the competition. One more missed round and he's out, and again we have a shitty situation on our hands.
In that case, we can void all results or write it all as 3-0. If we void all, Rikafip and bullrun2020bro lose 1 negative point for late submission, if we write it as 3-0 across the league, they keep the negative point. Either way we go, there will be unhappy people again.
It's a really difficult terrain to navigate without stepping on some toes, we eventually have to step on some to avoid the rules having 7 pages. Even then, we'd still forget to put some things in there.

Let's close this now, we really remain open for suggestions. Just please do understand that we try to make it as fair and fun as possible for everybody.
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Come on guys let's get back to topic. Thanks for defending us but not really necessary.

Lol. I was not defending you, I was just starting obvious facts to favour both side.  Grin

This is the most boring round for me, less question more gap in-between games. The two last game is taking forever.
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Come on guys let's get back to topic. Thanks for defending us but not really necessary.

We are always open to criticism, competition isn't perfect and we make mistakes so feel free to question us. Just don't think we have an agenda against individual players, all our decisions are made towards what is more fair for whole competition. Sometimes an individual will profit from that and sometimes he will not, simple as that. Try to look at it as if you did not have a stake in a round and I belive all our decision are logical when viewed from such point.

And to think this would be an easy week for me since I am out of the cup  Grin
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shocking....
Not long ago I was asked via PM what I think about Cro2 and whether you are doing a good job. I said yes, doing a very good job and trying to be as fair and precise as possible. No reasons to complain and certainly recommend them as project managers. Well, I will leave it at this.

This has escalated so quickly - if I understand you correctly, you're accusing the Cro2 team of changing your answers in the spreadsheet, and how is that even helpful to anyone? This isn't something that can be manipulated behind the scenes; it's a real-life sport, and no one knows what the outcome will be.

Nah! He went about it wrong and his interpretation of the rules isn't correct either, but you also completely misinterpreted him, he was talking about goal difference, here In a scenario where his opponent submitted very late and by then about 9 of his opponents questions were invalid, so he was awarded a 3-0 win, but I guess the questions he got correctly were much more than, so he wanted the opponent only questions that counted should be valid against his owns answers, which would have earned him a 7-1 or 6-0 differential, If that helps you understand better.

oh shit now i get the full gist! thanks. sorry mv1986 for misunderstanding your point.....

The 3-0 goal is a general rule in FIFA AND PES; if you are leading your opponent by, say, 20-0 and he collects 5 red cards, the game automatically ends and you are only awarded a 3-0 win rather than a 20-0 win. In real life, if a team decides not to play, the opponent is given a 3-0 lead in the match. I believe the same rules apply here as well.

@mv1986
Your opponent submitting late is the same thing as walkover in football terms. In the real sense your opponent didn't turn up and you cant score 7-nil in an empty GOAL-post. Lol
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Wow, what a drama with this competition. Personally I can't wait for the next season to start so that everyone who submits late will automatically lose that round 0-3. It will be easier for the Cro2 duo to do their job and it will hopefully make participants submit their answers on time. I still don't get it why is it so hard to submit answers on time when we get questions on Sunday afternoon and the deadline is on Satueday afternoon. That's 48 hour window and everyone in any timezone should have no problem to take 10 minutes of their time to submit the answers. I know that every man takes a shit (sorry for the language) for at least 10 minutes and that's enough time to take your mobile and submit the answers. You can even do it while working Grin
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shocking....
Not long ago I was asked via PM what I think about Cro2 and whether you are doing a good job. I said yes, doing a very good job and trying to be as fair and precise as possible. No reasons to complain and certainly recommend them as project managers. Well, I will leave it at this.

This has escalated so quickly - if I understand you correctly, you're accusing the Cro2 team of changing your answers in the spreadsheet, and how is that even helpful to anyone? This isn't something that can be manipulated behind the scenes; it's a real-life sport, and no one knows what the outcome will be.

Nah! He went about it wrong and his interpretation of the rules isn't correct either, but you also completely misinterpreted him, he was talking about goal difference, here In a scenario where his opponent submitted very late and by then about 9 of his opponents questions were invalid, so he was awarded a 3-0 win, but I guess the questions he got correctly were much more than, so he wanted the opponent only questions that counted should be valid against his owns answers, which would have earned him a 7-1 or 6-0 differential, If that helps you understand better.


@mv1986 I get your drift and you do have a point from an angle, but since we've never had an opposing scenario, we just would never know what the decision would have been, but what would you have clamored for if all the answers you submitted were wrong and the said opponent only valid question was correct, would you have agreed he should be awarded the win (@cryptofrka and @Trofo, what would have been the decision in that case, because I don't think we've been there before, and it's just a matter of time, if we keep having late submissions before we have one), and this has actually been discussed a couple of times already, there isn't a fair measure that favors everyone, I lost or drew a match a few rounds ago, when I could say the asked question should have been void and I would have been right but others too would have a point as to why the question should remain valid, but to be honest, any decision made about cases like this as it negatively affects one person, it positively affects the other.

If they have to count all your correct answers result because an opponent who submitted late have one valid question, and give you the entire points difference, then they would always need wait in subsequent scenarios, like when you had all questions wrong and let's say the opponent submitted late and none of his answers were valid, then such situation should be declared a draw ?

My final opinion on the situation is that, there's no common ground that would favor every participant, hence the need why both Trofo and Cryptofrka always had to make decision on certain instances, but these calls are never easy one to call, and I don't remember them calling one to directly favor either of them, so I believe it is very unfair to say those words questioning their integrity about a decision, they had to skip participating in the first round, solely because of opinions such as this.

To just make this whole situation of going back and forth over with, I would suggest an immediate implementation of late entries being null and void all together and not just a couple of questions, especially for division 1 and 2 players, since those divisions are not filled with first time participants.
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