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Quote from: arallmuus on November 08, 2024, 10:38:27 AM

Yeah both Tottenham and Roma didnt save my ass there so Im currently down by 2 point

1 more point for chi20 to secure atleast draw... Its been a while since I lost so Im pretty anxious about this. Getting atleast a draw at the end of the week would be miracle for me

BetBoom won team spirit and they're now in grandfinal. Salah got an assist already. By my calculations, I think I have won this round considering the fact that we only left with 2 matches to go.
Goodluck to the rest of the season my friend!

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Haaland scored for Man City, and BetBoom won against TeamSpirit is progressed into DOTA final, so I think I have small advantage against cls63 but winner is not decided yet.
I am neutrally observing LMS and I cant believe nobody knocked of Snake from the top yet but there is still time for him to fall

It was a good decision for me to drop out LMS or I think I would have to pay extortion rebuy again.
We are going to see very exciting last few rounds.

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:31:01 PM

I honestly feel LMS is in a perfect state, this season has been really good and is still quite exciting with a lot of rebuys, even from lower divisions.
If you ask me, there will be no changes to the current format in the next season, and I think Trofo will tell you the same.

One changed is needed.
Eliminate Snake from competing next season to make LMS fair.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 09, 2024, 03:05:49 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:31:01 PM

If you ask me, there will be no changes to the current format in the next season, and I think Trofo will tell you the same.

Maybe a pool at the end of the season to see if everyone agrees with you or not - if everyone likes the current metrics why not. Personally I don't.

Not gonna happen. LMS inclusion worked perfectly this season and we are super happy how it looked this whole season. We will not change a single thing about it next season for sure. From my point of view it isn't fair that I can loose in the last round even if i am 20 points ahead but that is part of the charm and incentive for others to buy back and raise the reward.

I still think your objections are from not actually looking at the whole picture and understanding the system 100%. You felt you were wronged in the round you went out and you never really tried to objectively look at it. It is the most fair way we can count the points and as I said there is max 2 H2H questions per round. Now we can maybe lower that to one per round but we will grade them like we did all this time. Or even loose them if people don't like them but we feel they bring a bit of extra spice to the competition.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 09, 2024, 02:04:54 PM

*sighs* I will be the bigger person here and would not throw shades at your football knowledge even though there is plenty of subject matter there.
Focus now is on Brighton taking at least one of the chances they have been creating in this match and Villa pulling a miracle later today.

Edit - Brighton finally do take one of their chances.

Hahaha Just giving you back little of your medicine Grin

you're one of the biggest EPL account here and I was only shocked you didn't know about Solanke move to Tottenham, maybe you haven't been watching alot of games this season. No shades bro...

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:31:01 PM

If you ask me, there will be no changes to the current format in the next season, and I think Trofo will tell you the same.

Maybe a pool at the end of the season to see if everyone agrees with you or not - if everyone likes the current metrics why not. Personally I don't.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 09, 2024, 01:36:43 PM

Left to me. I wouldn't care much if team with the highest SF at the end of the season emerged as LMS winner.

That would be boring. The main purpose of LMS is the rebuy - to increase the reward and decrease the competition over time.
It works as an added risk/reward element - for those willing to rebuy knowing they can still lose it all in the last round although they have a big advantage.

SF is not a good metric to take at all - some games you win 3-0 without your opponent showing up. Imagine how it would look like if LMS was won by a Div4 player because his opponents didn't show in 4 rounds?
Even better - imagine if a player loses SF in a crucial round because his opponent didn't show up. Imagine you have 8 correct answers but you win only 3-0 because it is a walkover.

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I honestly feel LMS is in a perfect state, this season has been really good and is still quite exciting with a lot of rebuys, even from lower divisions.
If you ask me, there will be no changes to the current format in the next season, and I think Trofo will tell you the same.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 09, 2024, 01:36:43 PM

Imagine my shock - football is for everyone Grin

*sighs* I will be the bigger person here and would not throw shades at your football knowledge even though there is plenty of subject matter there.
Focus now is on Brighton taking at least one of the chances they have been creating in this match and Villa pulling a miracle later today.

Edit - Brighton finally do take one of their chances.

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Damn! It's still a draw between me and slaman29.. We only have 2 different answers left. I have to Cheers on Team Falcon and a Chelsea-Arsenal draw 😁

I'm glad we didn't include Bayern Munich and Leverkusen in this weekend round. They only scored 1 goal each😂 I would have expected them to score a lot today😁

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Quote from: Trofo on November 09, 2024, 12:27:35 PM

I don't think you understand LMS scoring or H2H scoring at all. I know it is my job to explain it but I have run out of words. Don't know how else I can put it, I will try once more but I am just repeating myself here:
H2H questions are scored differently depending what you play
1. To win your duel you have to just be better than your opponent
2. To get the free bet point you have to be best in your Division
3. To get LMS point you need to be best among all the people that are live in LMS

All other questions are scored same in all situations. We never have more than 2 H2H questions, meaning your score can never be more than 2 points off for those situations.

I understand the H2H score system and how the LMS works, but I'm only saying that we don't put too much focus on H2H questions while ignoring general questions( overall performance). The whole point of LMS was to motivate lower DIV teams, but it's been the opposite this season; I know it's in beta mode and could improve over time.

Left to me. I wouldn't care much if team with the highest SF at the end of the season emerged as LMS winner.

Both Sherrif and Mafia opinions can coexist eh? Angry

Quote from: un_rank on November 09, 2024, 01:20:33 PM

Silly me though Solanke was still at Bournemouth and failed to score today, took me a minute to remember he has switched to Spurs.

Imagine my shock - football is for everyone Grin

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Another loss for me in LMS, now I am just playing for pride, hopefully I can make the scoreline a bit more respectable than what it is right now. Division 4 for next season looking more likely.

Silly me though Solanke was still at Bournemouth and failed to score today, took me a minute to remember he has switched to Spurs.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 09, 2024, 10:30:33 AM

My argument has been that goal scores should be used to represent our performance in LMS, and that using solely H2H questions reduces reflexivity and complicates the whole setup. This is far from the EURO LMS model.

I don't think you understand LMS scoring or H2H scoring at all. I know it is my job to explain it but I have run out of words. Don't know how else I can put it, I will try once more but I am just repeating myself here:
H2H questions are scored differently depending what you play
1. To win your duel you have to just be better than your opponent
2. To get the free bet point you have to be best in your Division
3. To get LMS point you need to be best among all the people that are live in LMS

All other questions are scored same in all situations. We never have more than 2 H2H questions, meaning your score can never be more than 2 points off for those situations.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 08, 2024, 07:34:13 AM

Are you really gonna make me go and find the post where we explained it? It is just about H2H questions. You can win H2H in your duel since it is just against that one person and loose it against whole field at the same time. For instance noblox1 has 5 correct in some H2H you have 3 and your oponnent has one. You are winning H2H in your duel but not getting point in LMS. Not that difficult to understand.

My argument has been that goal scores should be used to represent our performance in LMS, and that using solely H2H questions reduces reflexivity and complicates the whole setup. This is far from the EURO LMS model.

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:52:52 AM

They can be.. Before the deadline Grin

Mafia I'm not changing my answer; I'm simply requesting you to correct a spelling error on the spreadsheet; this is different from changing answers after the deadline. Everyone, except the Cro2 team, understands of my intentions.

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The last time I conceded early, I actually won by a whisker so to jinx my opponent again, vd309, well done on the 3 points Wink

Cavaliers will win their next game, Arsenal won't, somehow Spirit will fall by the wayside... now Fortune, do your thing and prove me wrong on all these fronts!

Quote from: arallmuus on November 08, 2024, 05:33:22 PM

Speaking of 0 wins throughout the season. Rikaflip is currently on 0 win and he submitted every round.... I checked his answer and he is currently down by 2 points with 3 more answers to go Lips sealed

You really want this 8th consecutive loss record, don't you Rikafip Wink

Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:52:52 AM

slaman29 got relegated from Div1 in Season 1 with 0 wins and 3 draws.
Just checked your scores, 51 goals against? Damn, that's some tough RNG to play against.

I didn't even remember that. No wins, so he already held the record from the get go! And now he's above me with 3 extra points. Just goes to show how things can swing.

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Quote from: Jinetics1111 on November 09, 2024, 03:28:45 AM

I thought GSW were the ones that would beat them too, but they were on a long road trip 4 games in 5 nights or whatever it was. Cavs were just shooting on all cylinders, plus warriors have no answer for Cavs PF and C, all in all good game. Grin

I felt taking 'to win all 3' would be a good risk to take in LMS, but usually NBA teams don't play early seasons with 100% effort.
Pelicans aren't good at all but were 2-2 at home at that point, GSW is a great team and I felt that Nets were unlikely to have any chance to win. Now all that remains is Nets, so we're screwed Grin

It's the 2nd of a back to back games for both teams so there is no advantage for either side in terms of rest, more so for Brooklyn Nets who would be the team travelling to Cleveland. It's pretty much easier to admit that Cavaliers aren't dropping any points here, but it's the NBA and upsets do happen more often than not. I really didn't know which team(s) would beat the Cavs of the 3 teams, but I just went for 0-1 hoping they would drop one game and lose their momentum to eventually drop another one.

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Quote from: Jinetics1111 on November 09, 2024, 03:28:45 AM

I thought GSW were the ones that would beat them too, but they were on a long road trip 4 games in 5 nights or whatever it was. Cavs were just shooting on all cylinders, plus warriors have no answer for Cavs PF and C, all in all good game. Grin

I felt taking 'to win all 3' would be a good risk to take in LMS, but usually NBA teams don't play early seasons with 100% effort.
Pelicans aren't good at all but were 2-2 at home at that point, GSW is a great team and I felt that Nets were unlikely to have any chance to win. Now all that remains is Nets, so we're screwed Grin

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 09, 2024, 02:52:52 AM

Cleveland destroyed GSW, now 'to win all 3' looks like a great choice. This is the one I thought they might be losing, Nets are decent as well but Cleveland just seems to be a level above everybody else.

I thought GSW were the ones that would beat them too, but they were on a long road trip 4 games in 5 nights or whatever it was. Cavs were just shooting on all cylinders, plus warriors have no answer for Cavs PF and C, all in all good game. Grin

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 08, 2024, 06:24:10 AM

Quote from: Trofo on November 08, 2024, 03:28:43 AM

Not in this case. If you had some other answer (ie. Parivision) and not Tundra we could maybe accept it. This way you spelled it TESm Team, that could be meant for both. TEam Spirit, Tundra ESports.

Man I was thinking this could be an easy fix since there is no " Team" in Tundra ESport, even a 3 yrs old would know I was actually talking about Team Spirit!! Another trick to get Sherrif out of the way?? Harmless mistakes before game like this should be corrected IMO.

They can be.. Before the deadline Grin

Quote from: Rikafip on November 08, 2024, 10:34:04 AM

Did anyone managed to get no wins in a season (without being disqualified for inactivity)? Imho, there should be some kind of reward for it (other than relegation) as its quite an achievement. Grin

slaman29 got relegated from Div1 in Season 1 with 0 wins and 3 draws.
Just checked your scores, 51 goals against? Damn, that's some tough RNG to play against.

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Cleveland destroyed GSW, now 'to win all 3' looks like a great choice. This is the one I thought they might be losing, Nets are decent as well but Cleveland just seems to be a level above everybody else.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 08, 2024, 03:07:58 PM

This is where I could have gained the most important point of all this week, I have both BetBoom and Team Spirit to reach the Grand finals, and Betboom for the title, while both teams have reached the upper bracket final.

You are lucky and Im on the opposite side. I have both Team Falcons and Parivision to the final, currently both of them are in lower bracket. Well I do have Falcons as winner but Im going to lose a point on this question if BetBoom manage to get to the final

Now that I think about this clearly, why the heck did I even picked Parivision over the other teams like BetBoom and Team Spirit Roll Eyes

. I had alot questionable answers on this round

I’m everything but lucky, because how am I supposed to be lucky if the on relevance the answer would make for me is points difference and nothing more, having lost the round from the first three questions.

I’d agree that your answers are really questionable, the name at least one should expect would be Betboom, because they were even still perfect without any lose, 4-0 (I think) before the deadline and while Team Spirit were 3rd placed team. Given that these are big household names made it rather easier especially when you look at the remaining opponents they were to play against.

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Quote from: Harkorede on November 08, 2024, 03:07:58 PM

This is where I could have gained the most important point of all this week, I have both BetBoom and Team Spirit to reach the Grand finals, and Betboom for the title, while both teams have reached the upper bracket final.

You are lucky and Im on the opposite side. I have both Team Falcons and Parivision to the final, currently both of them are in lower bracket. Well I do have Falcons as winner but Im going to lose a point on this question if BetBoom manage to get to the final

Now that I think about this clearly, why the heck did I even picked Parivision over the other teams like BetBoom and Team Spirit Roll Eyes

. I had alot questionable answers on this round

Quote from: buwaytress on November 08, 2024, 02:10:23 PM

You would need to be not just shit, but extremely unlucky to get 0 wins though!

Speaking of 0 wins throughout the season. Rikaflip is currently on 0 win and he submitted every round.... I checked his answer and he is currently down by 2 points with 3 more answers to go Lips sealed

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 08, 2024, 08:34:51 AM

I think you have an advantage in the question about DOTA. I would appreciate if those who understand DOTA can comment on the subject.

Yes, I think notblox1 now has more chance than you to earn point from question number 10. He selected BetBoom Team as one of finalists while you selected PARIVISION.
BetBoom team has reached upper bracket final and needs only one win to reach the grand final. Even if they lose their next macth, they will still have chance to reach the grand final.
PARIVISION will play against Team Spirit today. If they win, they will go to upper bracket final and if they will lose, they will go to lower bracket semifinal.

This is where I could have gained the most important point of all this week, I have both BetBoom and Team Spirit to reach the Grand finals, and Betboom for the title, while both teams have reached the upper bracket final.

However, it doesn't matter any longer, getting it right would only help increase or decrease my points difference as it stands, such an awful round I keep having.

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Damn you Sabalenka, I thought you'd lose in the final. Better result for me though as the final on the other side are so weak. Coco's going for this one. What a weird format though.

So vd309, you already lead, and your answers to my hindsight-enhanced eye, look better. Strange thing about DOTA though, I was about to trigger a BetBoom - Spirit VAR change (from Spirit/Falcons) and that would have put us very close. As it stands, I now hope Spirit wins and your BetBoom loses to Falcons/Pari to get a point there. Hard to see BB letting this one go though.

Quote from: Rikafip on November 08, 2024, 10:34:04 AM

Did anyone managed to get no wins in a season (without being disqualified for inactivity)? Imho, there should be some kind of reward for it (other than relegation) as its quite an achievement. Grin

I seem to recall someone asking about a wooden spoon thing for 0/10 in a round, but no wins in a season? I just saw SATWAT saying in BSFL/Fantasy chat he had 7 consecutive losses. You would need to be not just shit, but extremely unlucky to get 0 wins though! I know cryptofrka had plenty of draws but some standard cheating wins.

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