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As I said this is not official and if you have some good ideas, especially regarding selling of clubs feel free to share here or over private channels.
I do not know if it has been discussed before but I think selling accounts should only be allowed during a fixed off season window. If users can sell positions while the season is ongoing we will have participants facing a "hypothetically" tougher opponent and others facing a weaker one that bought the account later on.

I want to play un_rank everyweek.
It was your day, the next one, whenever that is, may not be.

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2. After selling, seller is looked at as a person who never played BSFL before. he can enter for free in lowest division available at that time and try to climb back trough the ranks.
In my opinion, we should minimize the chance of people wanting to sell their position and there should be some penalties for people doing so.

People should sell their position, if they will be busy in the next season and will be unable to submit their answers in time. People should sell their position, if they are tired of BSFL for any reason and they will no longer want to participate in BSFL.

People shouldn't look at selling their positions as a business and a way to earn money.

This season was my first season in BSFL and I managed to promote to division 2.
If I think I will be busy in the real life and there's a probability that I will not be able to submit my answers in time, I should sell my position so that I won't ruin the competition in the next season.
I shouldn't sell my position, because I want to earn some money. If I do so, there should be some penalties for me.

Here are some suggestions you may want to consider.

1. People selling their position can't join the competition again in the next x seasons.
2. People selling their position can join the BSFL again, but they will not be able to participate in cup and LMS in the next x seasons and they can only play in the league.
3. People selling their position should pay more fee for the next x seasons and if they sell their position again, the extra fee will be applied to the person who buys their position.
4. People should pay x mBTC, if they want to sell their position for the second time.
5. People selling their postition for the second time can never join BSFL again.
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Swaping will definitely be allowed. Even with the rules I wrote above you can do it. Just consider swap as two seperate sales. But that only works if both parties have clubs.

Non- BSFL can also participate! This makes a lot of sense now..sooner or later we would have teams announcing sales of clubs on the service sub-board.

Once again, if you hate it in division 3, give me a swap deal offer and enjoy division 2 next season with the Goat Igebotz FC. I love it in Division 3  Grin I want to play un_rank everyweek.

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Did you see the leaked Tyson contract? If he won with knockout in first round he gets nothing, second round gets him peanuts. For big money, fight had to full rounds and be decided by judges.

And here is a twist. All judges were selected by Paul. Don't know if it is legit by I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

Tyson landed only 18 punches, enough to tell you all you needed to know but we still have foolish punter like Drake who doesn't read the room. $20m in a night for the old legend, did Tyson ever made anything like that in his career?? I'm curious
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2. After selling, seller is looked at as a person who never played BSFL before. he can enter for free in lowest division available at that time and try to climb back trough the ranks.

How about we see it this way - TeamB from Division 3 acquires a TeamA from Division 1, and TeamA goes to Division 3 to take the TeamB slot, while TeamB moves to Division 1 to occupy the TeamA slot. This way, relegation and tables are unaffected, and we don't lose strong players who want to sell but aren't driven enough to start from scratch. Eh?

Swapping should be the right word.
Swaping will definitely be allowed. Even with the rules I wrote above you can do it. Just consider swap as two seperate sales. But that only works if both parties have clubs.



Just watched a recap of the Tyson-Paul event (won't even call it a fight), glad we didn't put that one in the questions.
Crazy world, they walk away with 40 and 20 mil $ for doing basically nothing.

Everything is showbiz nowadays and I hope that the fight we selected won't be similar to this one.
Did you see the leaked Tyson contract? If he won with knockout in first round he gets nothing, second round gets him peanuts. For big money, fight had to full rounds and be decided by judges.

And here is a twist. All judges were selected by Paul. Don't know if it is legit by I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
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2. After selling, seller is looked at as a person who never played BSFL before. he can enter for free in lowest division available at that time and try to climb back trough the ranks.

How about we see it this way - TeamB from Division 3 acquires a TeamA from Division 1, and TeamA goes to Division 3 to take the TeamB slot, while TeamB moves to Division 1 to occupy the TeamA slot. This way, relegation and tables are unaffected, and we don't lose strong players who want to sell but aren't driven enough to start from scratch. Eh?

Swapping should be the right word.
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Just watched a recap of the Tyson-Paul event (won't even call it a fight), glad we didn't put that one in the questions.
Crazy world, they walk away with 40 and 20 mil $ for doing basically nothing.

Everything is showbiz nowadays and I hope that the fight we selected won't be similar to this one.

If it were to be some WWE hosted drama, I totally would have understood it, but for real this is probably one of the boxing matches I’ve taken with a pinch of salt, the whole theatrics surround the fight you could tell that it was supposed to be some ceremonial match or what do we call it in football ? when a player is supposedly retiring and calling his previous team mates or other professional colleagues to partake in the match. Even though there wasn’t much of footballing events to watch, I’m not too sure I have any friend who actually lost sleep over the match as it was for 2 A.M local time.
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Just watched a recap of the Tyson-Paul event (won't even call it a fight), glad we didn't put that one in the questions.
Crazy world, they walk away with 40 and 20 mil $ for doing basically nothing.

Everything is showbiz nowadays and I hope that the fight we selected won't be similar to this one.
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Damn! I feel sorry for Hhampuz! From 3rd place to a 5th place because of a player who managed to forget 3 times to submit his answer on time.

The one who got the most "benefit" because that Smartvirus is out of bsfl is dbshck. He got 4 points.. 3 point from the match and then he got his 1 minus point cancelled.. and also he got his goal different from 5 to 11..

We all agree that it is fair that all matches will be canceled and converted to 3-0 win. This is a special situation, the match between Smartvirus-dbshck, smartvirus sent his answer on time but dbshck forgot it and got a penalty. Now Smartvirus is out and dbshck got his penalty cancel. But I hope in the next season, if the same were to happen, the penalty will remain at 1 minus point. No one should get away with penalty by luck. If you forget to submit the answers you will be penalized regardless of whether the player you played against is out of bsfl..

Now I'm waiting for the fight between Paul Jack - Mike Tyson😁  Lets go Tyson!!!!😁😁

Sucks to be paying the most price for someone else's inaction tbh, and It would be understandable from his stand point, but I'd really not want to see another highly competitive guy leave, we need to have a  lot of real natives here.

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I really don't know what's next for my team, it's really running out of gas  Sad
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Give it a break, man. Lol, I understand how our division works, and I know we're one club short, but I was curious how Hhampuz went from a serious title candidate a few weeks ago to fighting for promotion slots now. Gave me the biggest chase ever!!

I keep getting fucked by people either dropping out or not submitting answers, typical. Might be my last season  Lips sealed

Nooo don't quit! I like seeing familiar names all over the forum. Seriously, even though we're not close or anything, I have a great feeling whenever I see the various threads now. Whether or not I reply I feel like its a small family.

Like when casperBGD left I really felt a hole, swear to god.

Don't leave, trust me its hard to get out sometimes but stay stay stay!
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Igebotz FC is always on the market, a good bag and it's all yours ( not permanent) and there's a 30% relegation charge added - if you sink the club, you pay me 30% more. Igebotz U21 are breaking into spotlight and I needed something to keep them up but no problems.
We are still working on the rules for selling clubs. Maybe selling league position would be better way to call it since club name should probably always be connected with forum user name. Following is not official but some things we were discussing or how I see it at this point:
1. Selling of league position is final. Seller gets the money, new owner gets place in higher division and higher fee for maybe 2 seasons.
There must be a piece of money that goes to BSFL reward pool and we can't make it as percentage of sales since you guys can cheat on it then.
2. After selling, seller is looked at as a person who never played BSFL before. he can enter for free in lowest division available at that time and try to climb back trough the ranks.
3. Any complex deals like selling the position just for one season will not be official and we will do nothing to facilitate them. You can agree on anything we will not stop you but we will also not provide mechanism to make other person stick to the word or lower league fees. From BSFL point of view this will be two separate sales
4. All sales must be done officially in BSFL thread. You can agree the deal via PMs but then one of you must post the details here and the other one quotes it. I think it is better that that selling fee is public since it will do more for BSFL promotion and that should be a common goal. As cryptofrka says the idea is for BSFL to keep going for a long time and to do that we have to have certain numbers on forum and be partly self financed (league fees, penalties....)

As I said this is not official and if you have some good ideas, especially regarding selling of clubs feel free to share here or over private channels.

Don't know if all of you seen it yet, but we will also have club badges and club pages for all clubs from next season so our tables should look even better and we should have even better experience over first 3 Divisions. Lowest division will always be amateur one without fees and with smallest rewards, used as way to groom new players to BSFL standards and rules. Hopefully all late submissions and stuff like that will be contained just to that division. On the other hand place in 4th division still gets you entry to LMS and Cup, so if you are one of our core members and you are unlucky enough to get relegated hopefully those will be enough to keep you interested until you manage to earn promotion.
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Now I'm waiting for the fight between Paul Jack - Mike Tyson😁  Lets go Tyson!!!!😁😁

Netflix fucked me up, wake up middle of the night to screwed back to sleep. This is the same people trying to buy premier TV right from Skysports? It was a money grabbing fight to set Tyson for life, they both knew what they were doing. Was good to see iron fist back to the ring again.

Sure - you just need to sell team Igebotz Grin

Igebotz FC is always on the market, a good bag and it's all yours ( not permanent) and there's a 30% relegation charge added - if you sink the club, you pay me 30% more. Igebotz U21 are breaking into spotlight and I needed something to keep them up but no problems.
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Trofo is there a way Igebotz U21 can sign-up for division 4 next season?

Sure - you just need to sell team Igebotz Grin

I keep getting fucked by people either dropping out or not submitting answers, typical. Might be my last season  Lips sealed

Yup, sucks. If I were you, in case I miss promotion I'd simply buy a Div2 club. Or as Trofo said - next season Div3 should be way better.

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When we think about BSFL, we always think about the economic elements as well. And although we cannot guarantee that it will run for 10 more Seasons, we feel a few more seasons are all but certain. If the metrics continue like this, probably more as well.
In that case, buying a club and doing well with it in that Division should nullify the buy price in a few seasons.
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I keep getting fucked by people either dropping out or not submitting answers, typical. Might be my last season  Lips sealed
Should be better for you next season. Even if you don't promote, Division 3 will have fee to pay and better rewards which should push it to look like Div 1 and Div 2. And if you check our penalty table you will see, vast majority of penalties are in our bottom division. People get more serious when they pay to play.



Trofo is there a way Igebotz U21 can sign-up for division 4 next season?
We will think about what would that do but for now answer is No. That opens whole lot of problems I don't know how to handle.



If you forget to submit the answers you will be penalized regardless of whether the player you played against is out of bsfl..
We discussed that internally and decided on this. Logic behind it:
1. When you are out we wanted it to be like you never played since that is most fair
2. If you never played your opponent is free that round and didn't need to submit
3. It is easier for me to do and you to follow if we reward all those game as 3:0 instead of just deleting and in the and it comes to the same thing.
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Damn that mistake in 84th min of Fabian Ruiz cost me the point and the game vs @cryptofrka.
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Damn! I feel sorry for Hhampuz! From 3rd place to a 5th place because of a player who managed to forget 3 times to submit his answer on time.

The one who got the most "benefit" because that Smartvirus is out of bsfl is dbshck. He got 4 points.. 3 point from the match and then he got his 1 minus point cancelled.. and also he got his goal different from 5 to 11..

We all agree that it is fair that all matches will be canceled and converted to 3-0 win. This is a special situation, the match between Smartvirus-dbshck, smartvirus sent his answer on time but dbshck forgot it and got a penalty. Now Smartvirus is out and dbshck got his penalty cancel. But I hope in the next season, if the same were to happen, the penalty will remain at 1 minus point. No one should get away with penalty by luck. If you forget to submit the answers you will be penalized regardless of whether the player you played against is out of bsfl..

Now I'm waiting for the fight between Paul Jack - Mike Tyson😁  Lets go Tyson!!!!😁😁
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Give it a break, man. Lol, I understand how our division works, and I know we're one club short, but I was curious how Hhampuz went from a serious title candidate a few weeks ago to fighting for promotion slots now. Gave me the biggest chase ever!!

I keep getting fucked by people either dropping out or not submitting answers, typical. Might be my last season  Lips sealed

The removal Smartvirus FC caused significant harm to those of us who defeated him while benefiting those who lost. (Mine was free points, BTW  Grin) But it was a perfect decision. The only way to survive is to get promoted to Division 2.

You've done a lot of work this season and deserve the promotion. You will have the chance to swap to whatever club you want next season. Igebotz U21- are on the market.

Trofo is there a way Igebotz U21 can sign-up for division 4 next season?
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Meh.
Give it a break, man. Lol, I understand how our division works, and I know we're one club short, but I was curious how Hhampuz went from a serious title candidate a few weeks ago to fighting for promotion slots now. Gave me the biggest chase ever!!

I keep getting fucked by people either dropping out or not submitting answers, typical. Might be my last season  Lips sealed
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Noticed several times already that you really took time to read the rules and then used common sense to interpret situations. Really impressive for first season. It all seems very straightforward to us organizers and then we feel a bit taken back when people that are with us for several season miss some important part of how BSFL works. Fact that you got it in season 1 means it is all well explained for those that take time to do so.

Give it a break, man. Lol, I understand how our division works, and I know we're one club short, but I was curious how Hhampuz went from a serious title candidate a few weeks ago to fighting for promotion slots now. Gave me the biggest chase ever!!

I think the window to submit answers is short (I have sometimes seen the 2 days flash by after just making a mental note to return to the questions) but working on that will be difficult to do. Only fix looks to be announcing the next week's question while the current one is still active which can be confusing for some.

I  believe the two days are enough for everyone to commit 20 minutes of their time. I've missed submitting twice in the past, and I have no excuses. If you're unsure about your Monday and Tuesday activities, you can do what Hhampuz does and submit your answers on Sunday and enjoy the rest of the week.

For latecomers like us, I prefer to wait until a few hours before the deadline before submitting; I've programmed my brain that way. You will get used to it with time.
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If only we had more new additions like you. Rookie of the year title is already yours for sure. Not that it comes with anything except bragging rights  Grin

Say no more, this dude deserves it. In addition to his knowledge on how things works, he is top of his division, currently 1 question away from getting into cup final and the only LMS participants that hasnt got knocked out yet. He really sets the bar pretty high...

Speaking of LMS, if I have to pick a favourite to win then mine would be el_che. This dude just stay off the radar while everyone talks about the current top 3 in LMS but he might be able to snatch if from you guys  Tongue

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I'd say you are one of the kingsguard  Grin

hosseinimr93 would be my pick for Tyrion. Has somehow managed to pick himself out of any mess -- may not sit on the Throne in the end, but will always be the true Last Man Standing #jinxpls

This actually fits him quite well. or probably Bronn, you know Tyrion's sellsword
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I think the window to submit answers is short (I have sometimes seen the 2 days flash by after just making a mental note to return to the questions) but working on that will be difficult to do. Only fix looks to be announcing the next week's question while the current one is still active which can be confusing for some.

Not possible at all, even this is problematic for sports like tennis, snooker and most USA sports that play games every 2-3 days.
Ideally we'd ask questions on Monday evening with ~20h deadline.

That would be optimal for the competition (to have the best possible questions), but would probably be a bit too demanding for players. 2 days is the soft spot, anything longer than that and the quality of the questions/variety of sports drops significantly.
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