Stake and odd provider's limits !!!!!! - page 3.

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Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

I'm curious what exact betting behavior landed your account in this situation. The only thing that I could think of off the top of my head is that you must have been using some sort of martingale betting style to where at some point they felt the need to put a cap on how far you can take that strategy. Is it possible this or something like it is the reasoning behind your new limits? If it were me, I'd take the hint and make sure my funds were protected, but reaching out to them and seeing what they're willing to do for you or what explanation they have seems like it would also be a good idea.

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It looks like you were consistently winning in both of these sites which is why they restricted you in this manner and is completely legal. Casinos do this stuff all the time in order to keep their businesses afloat since none of them like consistent winners.

The only gambling sites that have no problem with such winners are gambling exchanges, Pinnacle etc op.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 06:15:20 AM

I don't think you should worry,if you have not received an official email from Stake that your account is restricted and not only the sport section of the site the withdrawals should pass through if you haven't violated any of their terms and conditions.

We are talking about Stake here who gives like near 1 million dollars in bonus when is Christmas time like they did last year,I don't think they will care much to restrict an account for 80 mBTC which you claim to have won.I doubt they will put their reputation at risk for such ridiculous amounts for them.

How do you know that? You've seen testimonies about official emails sent to customers whom they've locked their funds? Could you share them with us here? Because CMIIW but rickmart's account has obviously been restricted without any email nor notice.
Moreover, even if Stake is really sending "official emails" for that, like a professional or regulated sportsbook, don't you think it's a little bit late to care about it when you receive one? Because I don't think they will notify the user before locking his funds.

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 08:33:37 AM

I try to bet as much as possible on promotions proposed by Stake but I never cheated (back multiple sides, etc ...). I usually take some info from tipsters and I bet often on lower leagues to have value bets or surebet sometimes, but frankly if betting on exotic league or markets is suspect in this case they might as well not propose these markets.
I never use large stakes for my betslip, most of the times from 1 mBtc to 3 mBtc and as far as I remember I have not set any betslip with more than 15 mBtc.

You're obviously an honest customer, but it's not enough for being a good customer in their eyes, they want to earn money from you, not to give money to you. You've maybe just been lucky for the moment and you will maybe lose all your winnings in the coming months, but obviously they don't want to take risks and to wait for seeing. They prefer "showing you the door" now as Maasdamer said. You should also monitor your bonuses they will most likely being harshly lowered.

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Quote from: Ebede on August 08, 2022, 07:45:26 AM

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Same here, once you got the limits the site is dead.

They are basically showing you the door. Both stake and sb.io did exactly the same to me. While stake only limited me for certain sports sp.io did it for all sports, its ridiculous.

I know that the limitation is from the odd put so I believe that there is no platform who is a gambling platform that would like to limit it players except that there is a strong thing that is behind the delimitation so if you take very well that you will notice that yes there is some particular area that you are faulty which is a hidden thing so if you verify well I think you might know where are the last season's coming from

I try to bet as much as possible on promotions proposed by Stake but I never cheated (back multiple sides, etc ...). I usually take some info from tipsters and I bet often on lower leagues to have value bets or surebet sometimes, but frankly if betting on exotic league or markets is suspect in this case they might as well not propose these markets.
I never use large stakes for my betslip, most of the times from 1 mBtc to 3 mBtc and as far as I remember I have not set any betslip with more than 15 mBtc.

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Same here, once you got the limits the site is dead.

They are basically showing you the door. Both stake and sb.io did exactly the same to me. While stake only limited me for certain sports sp.io did it for all sports, its ridiculous.

I know that the limitation is from the odd put so I believe that there is no platform who is a gambling platform that would like to limit it players except that there is a strong thing that is behind the delimitation so if you take very well that you will notice that yes there is some particular area that you are faulty which is a hidden thing so if you verify well I think you might know where are the last season's coming from

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Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 06:15:20 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 05:53:40 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on August 08, 2022, 05:36:06 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

Did they ask you to pass a KYC? Are you still able to withdraw your funds? You should check that quickly and withdraw all your funds from Stake before it's too late.
I don't think those restrictions are just decided by their odds provider, it's a very convenient excuse from them. Odds providers don't manage and don't care about casinos finances. Like any supplier won't care about the finances of their customers if they are paid. They are maybe reporting things to casinos but the final decisions belong to the casino since you are a customer of the casino and you have T&C with it and not with its odds provider. How casinos would keep high rollers and manage their streamers and sponsored stars if odds providers were able to limit them as they want.
Moreover as Maasdamer said on one sportsbook he is limited for certain sports while being limited for all sports on another which is likely sharing the same odds provider.

A 8 mBTc withdraw was successfull last week but indeed I do not know if I can withdraw all my funds. In terms of account verification I am level 2 (identity card asked , etc )

I don't think you should worry,if you have not received an official email from Stake that your account is restricted and not only the sport section of the site the withdrawals should pass through if you haven't violated any of their terms and conditions.

We are talking about Stake here who gives like near 1 million dollars in bonus when is Christmas time like they did last year,I don't think they will care much to restrict an account for 80 mBTC which you claim to have won.I doubt they will put their reputation at risk for such ridiculous amounts for them.

Indeed it would look weird to me too, especially that the 80 mBtc was my stakes spent during the month and not my gains, so ... ;-)

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Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 05:53:40 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on August 08, 2022, 05:36:06 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

Did they ask you to pass a KYC? Are you still able to withdraw your funds? You should check that quickly and withdraw all your funds from Stake before it's too late.
I don't think those restrictions are just decided by their odds provider, it's a very convenient excuse from them. Odds providers don't manage and don't care about casinos finances. Like any supplier won't care about the finances of their customers if they are paid. They are maybe reporting things to casinos but the final decisions belong to the casino since you are a customer of the casino and you have T&C with it and not with its odds provider. How casinos would keep high rollers and manage their streamers and sponsored stars if odds providers were able to limit them as they want.
Moreover as Maasdamer said on one sportsbook he is limited for certain sports while being limited for all sports on another which is likely sharing the same odds provider.

A 8 mBTc withdraw was successfull last week but indeed I do not know if I can withdraw all my funds. In terms of account verification I am level 2 (identity card asked , etc )

I don't think you should worry,if you have not received an official email from Stake that your account is restricted and not only the sport section of the site the withdrawals should pass through if you haven't violated any of their terms and conditions.

We are talking about Stake here who gives like near 1 million dollars in bonus when is Christmas time like they did last year,I don't think they will care much to restrict an account for 80 mBTC which you claim to have won.I doubt they will put their reputation at risk for such ridiculous amounts for them.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 08, 2022, 05:36:06 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

Did they ask you to pass a KYC? Are you still able to withdraw your funds? You should check that quickly and withdraw all your funds from Stake before it's too late.
I don't think those restrictions are just decided by their odds provider, it's a very convenient excuse from them. Odds providers don't manage and don't care about casinos finances. Like any supplier won't care about the finances of their customers if they are paid. They are maybe reporting things to casinos but the final decisions belong to the casino since you are a customer of the casino and you have T&C with it and not with its odds provider. How casinos would keep high rollers and manage their streamers and sponsored stars if odds providers were able to limit them as they want.
Moreover as Maasdamer said on one sportsbook he is limited for certain sports while being limited for all sports on another which is likely sharing the same odds provider.

A 8 mBTc withdraw was successfull last week but indeed I do not know if I can withdraw all my funds. In terms of account verification I am level 2 (identity card asked , etc )

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Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

Did they ask you to pass a KYC? Are you still able to withdraw your funds? You should check that quickly and withdraw all your funds from Stake before it's too late.
I don't think those restrictions are just decided by their odds provider, it's a very convenient excuse from them. Odds providers don't manage and don't care about casinos finances. Like any supplier won't care about the finances of its customers if it is paid. They are maybe reporting things to casinos but the final decisions belong to the casino since you are a customer of the casino and you have T&C with it and not with its odds provider. How casinos would keep high rollers and manage their streamers and sponsored stars if odds providers were able to limit them as they want?
Moreover as Maasdamer said on one sportsbook he is limited for certain sports while being limited for all sports on another which is likely sharing the same odds provider.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 05:04:29 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 04:39:20 AM

Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 04:29:15 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

I think the odd provider of both sites does not want to let you play more with higher bets (I don't know your history) but maybe you have won big amounts and thus they have limited you,it is a known procedure learnt from the FIAT bookies like bet365 which has a common procedure to freeze your account once you win 3000 EUR or more.

Stake cannot help you as they have no power over what the odd provider does,if you can play with any bet on slot machines or other directly managed games by Stake this just shows that it is the fault of the odds provider.

Ok So once it is frozen, no hope of recovering correct limits?

Maybe in the future,I don't know because I have never been in that situation and I have placed a lot of bets both at Stake and Sportsbet with 0.005 and more as a stake for my bet but I have never been limited by the odd providers as I have always lost 99% of my bets,I am a loser when it comes to sport betting so I now only play slot machines for the time being.

I hope your limits increase in the future as 0.2 mBTC is a ridiculous amount as a maximum stake for your bet.

I have just tried to set a bet on Murray - Fritz (game spread Fritz -4.5 odd 3.05), a 0.1 mBtc stake was rejected ...

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This happened most of the time on some games like e-sports in my experience. I have no idea what’s the exact reason for this limitation but odds provider have max bet limit on every specific games maybe it’s related on the number of odds being placed on that particular match because I only experienced this kind of betting limitations on games that is not popular. I try to place bets in different sportsbook with the same march and the limit is just the same. This issue is not from the casino but from the odds provider like the support already told you.

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Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 04:39:20 AM

Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 04:29:15 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

I think the odd provider of both sites does not want to let you play more with higher bets (I don't know your history) but maybe you have won big amounts and thus they have limited you,it is a known procedure learnt from the FIAT bookies like bet365 which has a common procedure to freeze your account once you win 3000 EUR or more.

Stake cannot help you as they have no power over what the odd provider does,if you can play with any bet on slot machines or other directly managed games by Stake this just shows that it is the fault of the odds provider.

Ok So once it is frozen, no hope of recovering correct limits?

Maybe in the future,I don't know because I have never been in that situation and I have placed a lot of bets both at Stake and Sportsbet with 0.005 and more as a stake for my bet but I have never been limited by the odd providers as I have always lost 99% of my bets,I am a loser when it comes to sport betting so I now only play slot machines for the time being.

I hope your limits increase in the future as 0.2 mBTC is a ridiculous amount as a maximum stake for your bet.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 08, 2022, 04:46:26 AM

I haven`t such situation but possible it depends on time that you use this casino and your bets. Possible that your limits will grow some time later, when you`ll reach some limit of bets or time you are gambling.
I think that you ought to ask support about such situation and if it is possible to increase limits manually.

During last months I may have bet 80 mBtc, and it was a good month in terms of gains I would say. But everyone knows that in gambling you have good and bad times.

The support told me:
'''
There are two types of limits. Global and account limits. Global depends on the competition integrity and coverage and personal depends on the account activity.

They will keep checking acounts and improve limits if that would be possible in the future.
'''

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I haven`t such situation but possible it depends on time that you use this casino and your bets. Possible that your limits will grow some time later, when you`ll reach some limit of bets or time you are gambling.
I think that you ought to ask support about such situation and if it is possible to increase limits manually.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 08, 2022, 04:29:15 AM

Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

I think the odd provider of both sites does not want to let you play more with higher bets (I don't know your history) but maybe you have won big amounts and thus they have limited you,it is a known procedure learnt from the FIAT bookies like bet365 which has a common procedure to freeze your account once you win 3000 EUR or more.

Stake cannot help you as they have no power over what the odd provider does,if you can play with any bet on slot machines or other directly managed games by Stake this just shows that it is the fault of the odds provider.

Ok So once it is frozen, no hope of recovering correct limits?

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this is a problem that occurs very often with bookmakers who use fiat (and especially with "physical" betting rooms).
Very often it is imposed as a limit to avoid scams / money laundering or suspicious match-fixing games.

I believe that there is not much to do to resolve the situation and in the T&C of the bookmakers this type of exclusion is clearly indicated as a possibility Sad

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Quote from: rickmart on August 08, 2022, 03:18:55 AM

Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

I think the odd provider of both sites does not want to let you play more with higher bets (I don't know your history) but maybe you have won big amounts and thus they have limited you,it is a known procedure learnt from the FIAT bookies like bet365 which has a common procedure to freeze your account once you win 3000 EUR or more.

Stake cannot help you as they have no power over what the odd provider does,if you can play with any bet on slot machines or other directly managed games by Stake this just shows that it is the fault of the odds provider.

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Sorry to say but i don't think they will raise your limits
Also I believe it's from the odds provider so I doubt stake support will help

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Hello,

Since I started betting on Stake I have rarely been disappointed, they have very good promotions, good odds, etc...

But recently, I cannot place a single bet, my stake is almost always rejected (too high). The support told me that unfortunately they cannot do much about it as it is the odd provider that fix limits for an event and for each user. Even on big events just like premier league games I cannot bet with a stake more than 0.2 mBtc (when it is possible).

I had a similar situation with sportsbet.io (odds automatically lowered for my account, banned from some promotions) and they haven't gone backwards since (more than 8 months).

Has anyone been in this situation and was able to recover afterwards normal betting configuration?

If my situation is never going to be reviewed, I might as well get my funds back right away.

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