Topic: Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls! (Read 708 times)

OP posted in Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!, which lead to discussion there. That's not the right place, so I've deleted 7 posts and I'll quote them here. I've also Opposed the Flag.

Get help. Block every gambling site from your hosts file. Throw away your computer. Start working out. Go watch porn. Get a different hobby. Do something. Something else than gambling.
Opening scam accusations isn't going to help you. Even if you'd get your money back, you'd instantly lose it again.

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The quotes from Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!:

Okay , holydarkness; thanks for your whole help sir.

With respect;

Tetaeridanus.

No, just update the opening post, adding the link to your flag. Do the DTs see your thread and flag? Well, I can say that, so far and for sure, there are three DTs overseeing your thread, given we're already commenting and giving our input. I noticed that you've also made your request here, so yeah, DT will most likely see your thread.

Dear Holydarkness,

Do I open a thread about I opened a flag or it doesn't work like that? Does the DT sees this?

Thanks for your information; I don't see any way for you to support Stake.com since their representatives actually even replied to anything here. I wish I could open a flag against stake.com directly; I will open one for Stunna.

On that case, as I've said, I think their silence means they're sticking with their initial ruling, and that they're not going to reconsider your case. As for flagging them, which account do you want to flag? Is it Stunna, it's Stake's official account, but the account has been inactive for a while.

Basically, if you want to raise a flag against someone, you go to their trust page [go to the profile and click the button on "trust"], scroll to the bottom of the page, to the "new feedback" part, the option to add a flag will be next to a negative feedback.



There will be three type of flags you can choose [the description of each flag is there on that page]. Flag type-1, Newbie Flag, will only need 1 DT support [or 1 more DT supporting the flag against the ones opposing it], and flag type-2 and 3 will need 3 DT supports. [You can read more about flag here if you're interested].

You can ask for support or opposition for flag here. But bear in mind that DTs will not just jump into supporting [or opposing] flag blindly, for the same reason I can't: because taking an action for a flag requires us to affirm that what happens is like what's described, to the best of our knowledge, and that the flagged account indeed did as accused and/or guilty.

Holydarkness,

First of all I know your motive is helping here and not taking any sides, and I believe your good heartedness. On the other hand, I asked you what does silence mean on Stake.com's side. If you knew how this site caused my life to collapse and watched it in your eyes; you would flag this stealing attempt too, this site does not care about their customers or you or anyone here; they care about money. Their religion is money; and I will try everything I can to take my money back. How and to which account do I raise flag? I will see who is a payroller on that flag. Thanks for advance.

They actually have choices to reply or not to reply to a scam accusation. The scam accusations threads are here to warn people of a scam attempts as well as give space for every involved parties to give their side. If one of the involved party didn't want to give their side, then I'm afraid there's not much we can force them to do.

As for what you [or, the other side of the involved parties, the one that's left with silence] can do, it's case-by-case basis, in several, the silence can be intepreted as an admission of guilt [depending on what the evidence point out to us] and flag or negative feedback were given as a result. Thus, if you deemed it necessary and the right thing to do, you're more than welcome to take that road. But, your case, sadly, IMO, doesn't warrant a flag. At least that's what I got after reading your case and proof you provided.

I explained my assumption here about the two pronged situation, which I am more than OK that you can't accept, as it is just my assumption, but that's the way I see and intepret your case, my very own opinion after reading the narrative and evidence so far.

Others might think differently, and they'll probably see Stake as the wrong side here, support your flag if you raise any, or leave a negative feedback themselves on Stake's account.

As for why my motive, I don't think I understand this part well, but if you're asking for I'm here, as I said here, I am not benefited in any way from this case, whatever the outcome is, I am here [on this board, not just on this thread] simply to oversee cases, probably help solving them, and that's it.

I don't think they have a choice to not reply to a scam accussation; if they didn't what conclusion do you have to still support their decision? I don't understand your motive really holydarkness; you did a great thing and contacted them ; don't you think it is ill motivated to not reply to a scam accusation with proofs given? I seriously don't understand your pov.

Regards.

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

Thanks holydarkness for your reply! I wish I could merit you. Thanks for your activity in this forum as well, I see you in every scam accusation thread dealing with all kinds of people. I gave a trust +1 to you way back; so I can only see that, bummer😃.

Respect for your contribution.

Thanks for your answers on my thread.

I don think Don will answer [a dad joke fully intended] as your question will be very much out of topic, so I'll be brief [as much as I can, because it's a rather complex system], you can shoot me a PM if you have further question for this topic, or you can look around, there are plenty of reading material available across the boards on this forum, or ask on the beginners and help board.

In layman's term, a DT [Default Trust] is a group of people whose judgment are valued and trusted by the forum, thus when they participate on a trust flag or leave a trust feedback, what they leave will be shown for public eyes. If you see those numbers below the username on left side of everyone's post, the "-0 / =0 / +0" or on other cases, "-8 / =1 / +3" or whatever numbers showing there, it's because a DT, be it a DT1 or DT2 leave a positive, neutral, or negative feedback on that account.

When a non-DT leave their feedback, it won't show by default, you'll need to go to their trust page and click the "show ratings" on the "untrusted feedback" section to bring this up.

The list of DTs is ever changing due to the decentralized nature that theymos want to enact, you can always see the DT list here, being updated weekly.

Dear Holydarkness and Don Pedro Dinero;

I thank both of you for your continuous replies; I am not in the best of the times this week since I have buried my grandfather to grave and not really on the 'mood', If my replies seems like I am against everything you wrote that's because of my mood and english being my second language. I am not here to rank up to make my voice heard, I am here to contribute if you look at my previous posts, I am active in this forum; at least am trying to, because I love and have been in bitcoin for many years, however never belonged to a community, which here I love it. Thanks for your replies again, sadly I don't even know a lawyer who would look to a case like this, I will start diging; secondly I appreciate both of your opinions a lot, and thank you for your help. Holydarkness, Stake didn't even try to respond since today, so I won't try to continue on this path anymore; I will take legal action, thank you for your efforts as well.

edit: Hey Don what is DT? Thanks.

Respect

Tetaeridanus✨

You have made a perfect interpretation of what I meant. For my part here I am going to leave the OP angry with the world, and with the forum, and with those who tell him things he doesn't like to hear even if they are true. I told him to look for a lawyer in a previous post and he didn't listen. I, for $20,000, would do it. I guess it's more comfortable for him to keep complaining on the forum, but it's not going to get him any results.

I am sure you misunderstood what he tried to say. I think he didn't mean to discourage you from ranking up. Rather, he's informing you that your aim is not exactly necessary. This forum, or more specifically, this board, doesn't discriminate rank, we run on evidence. So, it doesn't really matter if the accuser is a newbie with mere dozen of posts or a legendary, as long as they give supporting evidence for their claim, we'll give our best to oversee the case. As such, you being a newbie or a FM or a legendary does not change how people view your case.

If you want to pursue this matter, it'll be better to allocate your time by filing legal suits than spending it here building a legendary rank just so you can be heard [because you already been heard].

At least that's how I interpret his post.

You are right about every word you have said even If i want to accept or not, I wish I had smerits; I would have merited this. Anyways I hope you know you get my gratitude and appreciation. I will and am on the path of recovery. However I still don't believe I am at fault here.

Welcome back! First you were saying no one's gonna reply to a degenerate, now telling me to stop the fantasy. I respect your opinion about everything and thanks for your opinions, may I ask you what is your choice of act? So Stunna has a great rep, so he can't be at fault right? You Stop the Fantasy. Yeah we will see in the future, I get act upon in every thread because of rank, like i am a spastic individual. Anyways thanks for your replies Don Dinero, even how much you are spitting at me with anger, I believe you are a genuine person. Thanks.

It's not about whether or not they deserve the money. They won the money that you lost. That's all.

We don't live in a perfect world my friend. The reality of the world and what is happening in it is different from how it should be. Life is going to eat you alive if you aren't strong mentally and to some degree physically. Do you agree with me that addiction is a weakness and a disease? 

This has nothing to do with you being a newbie, and I am pretty sure you know it. You are looking to vent. Stake is at fault, the forum is wrong, Pmalek is at fault because he isn't helping me. None of that makes any difference. Your addiction got you here, and I hope you will recover from it. I don't think I can wish anything better for you than to recover and become a healthy and strong individual who can take control of his life and be capable of making sound and logical decisions.   

Stop the fantasy.


You are already an ordinary profile here on bitcointalk, and no matter how long you stay and get to Legendary it won't do you any good. The only thing that could help you is to enter DT and be able to paint red his profile, but even then I don't think it would do much good, as the OP of the official Stake.com thread is Stunna, who has 30 positive feedbacks and is not very active lately. Stake.com has a great reputation on the forum and you're not going to change it for your isolated case.

The only thing left for you to do is to take legal action as I told you before because here on the forum you are not going to get anything more than to continue to be angry, as you keep showing in your posts.