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legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
I can confirm that, witnessed it first-hand-ly that they require level 1 KYC for an [new] account to have their depositing address generated. I'll see if I can procure a supporting evidence, in form of screenshot, for this.

One would argue that it might be a good approach, to avoid any future inconvenience players usually experienced when they suddenly and randomly asked to perform KYC for withdrawal or doing other features, but I have to agree that the step should be player's decision instead of being forced to them right off the bat.



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I don’t think completing level 1 with mean much in curbing delays. The delays always start at level 3 and they aren’t going to stop asking for level 3 and 4.

I am not talking about the recent situations with Stake where players got their documents rejected, I am talking about the old and ever-circulating issue across casinos where they will ask players to perform basic KYC out of nowhere [though usually it's followed by a good reason] to get the player's account and/or withdrawal function unlocked.
legendary
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Maybe im 'toopid, but this is probably one of the driving factors of scammer casinos - HEY NO KYC!!! ... Would probably entertain anyone looking to avoid scrutiny.

Roll Eyes
You have to put yourself in the shoes of those that are doing these so-called scams, think of it like this, for me, I think that they're probably doing this because they want to attract as much people as they can to do their gambling in their website, the real problem in my opinion is that people are still falling for this promotion when this isn't really going to be a good long-term plan for the casino because down the line, they either stick to this thing that they do and risk getting authorities on their asses or they implement a KYC without consent from other people, it basically boils down to which one they're going to save, you or their business and 10 times out of 10, they're definitely saving their business first.
legendary
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That's quite sad but that's very true. They're now putting so much stress on users to go through KYC verification and surely that's their strategy to remain in the list of top online casinos.

However, those who dislike KYC verification should avoid Stake in that case, but there's no guarantee that in future other casinos won't make the KYC mandatory and that's why as a gambler one should keep in his mind that casinos can change their T&C anytime and no one can stop them from doing that.

Maybe im 'toopid, but this is probably one of the driving factors of scammer casinos - HEY NO KYC!!! ... Would probably entertain anyone looking to avoid scrutiny.

Roll Eyes
Casinos with a license in the  UK or US are top as far as security. I’m not fishing for an opportunity to name casinos but with the casinos in Curaçao and Costa Rica having KYC or non-KYC, doesn’t equate to the security or quality of the casino.
newbie
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That's quite sad but that's very true. They're now putting so much stress on users to go through KYC verification and surely that's their strategy to remain in the list of top online casinos.

However, those who dislike KYC verification should avoid Stake in that case, but there's no guarantee that in future other casinos won't make the KYC mandatory and that's why as a gambler one should keep in his mind that casinos can change their T&C anytime and no one can stop them from doing that.

Maybe im 'toopid, but this is probably one of the driving factors of scammer casinos - HEY NO KYC!!! ... Would probably entertain anyone looking to avoid scrutiny.

Roll Eyes
hero member
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Now KYC is mandatory when making a new account, I have read you can't even get the deposit address without even entering your data to complete level 1 verification.
That's quite sad but that's very true. They're now putting so much stress on users to go through KYC verification and surely that's their strategy to remain in the list of top online casinos.

However, those who dislike KYC verification should avoid Stake in that case, but there's no guarantee that in future other casinos won't make the KYC mandatory and that's why as a gambler one should keep in his mind that casinos can change their T&C anytime and no one can stop them from doing that.
legendary
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Especially when they claimed in the past that they will never ask for KYC unless there is a strong suspicion of fraudelent activity.
Now KYC is mandatory when making a new account, I have read you can't even get the deposit address without even entering your data to complete level 1 verification.
Kinda sad development considering  we are talking about a crypto casino.
No other big site other than stake is doing this.

I can confirm that, witnessed it first-hand-ly that they require level 1 KYC for an [new] account to have their depositing address generated. I'll see if I can procure a supporting evidence, in form of screenshot, for this.

One would argue that it might be a good approach, to avoid any future inconvenience players usually experienced when they suddenly and randomly asked to perform KYC for withdrawal or doing other features, but I have to agree that the step should be player's decision instead of being forced to them right off the bat.



Edit: here



I don’t think completing level 1 with mean much in curbing delays. The delays always start at level 3 and they aren’t going to stop asking for level 3 and 4.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1436
Yes, I'm an asshole
Especially when they claimed in the past that they will never ask for KYC unless there is a strong suspicion of fraudelent activity.
Now KYC is mandatory when making a new account, I have read you can't even get the deposit address without even entering your data to complete level 1 verification.
Kinda sad development considering  we are talking about a crypto casino.
No other big site other than stake is doing this.

I can confirm that, witnessed it first-hand-ly that they require level 1 KYC for an [new] account to have their depositing address generated. I'll see if I can procure a supporting evidence, in form of screenshot, for this.

One would argue that it might be a good approach, to avoid any future inconvenience players usually experienced when they suddenly and randomly asked to perform KYC for withdrawal or doing other features, but I have to agree that the step should be player's decision instead of being forced to them right off the bat.



Edit: here


legendary
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You're wrong IMO, they've already ruined their reputation here, by locking many accounts without giving any reason and requiring endless KYC, mostly when those customers were starting to cumulate some profits. I think they don't really care about their image here anymore TBH. .....
KYC policy without any doubt is the worst policy from casinos but it's now part of most casinos and that's why questioning it would be a stupid move. One should read the T&C of a casino before joining that casino because without reading the T&C of a casino one may later have to go through KYC verification.

I'm not sure that you're right or not but if they don't really care about their reputation at Bitcointalk then why would they're still marketing on this forum via their signature campaign? I know they have been spending way more on Kick.com but I guess they're still not running away from Bitcointalk and I agree that from Bitcointalk they can get way more good players than that kick.com or marketing anywhere else.

Stake pays $100 million to Drake, $10 million euros to Everton, then there are others such as Israel Adesanya and major social media influencers. It doesn’t seem like they care much about BCT.
hero member
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You're wrong IMO, they've already ruined their reputation here, by locking many accounts without giving any reason and requiring endless KYC, mostly when those customers were starting to cumulate some profits. I think they don't really care about their image here anymore TBH. .....
KYC policy without any doubt is the worst policy from casinos but it's now part of most casinos and that's why questioning it would be a stupid move. One should read the T&C of a casino before joining that casino because without reading the T&C of a casino one may later have to go through KYC verification.

I'm not sure that you're right or not but if they don't really care about their reputation at Bitcointalk then why would they're still marketing on this forum via their signature campaign? I know they have been spending way more on Kick.com but I guess they're still not running away from Bitcointalk and I agree that from Bitcointalk they can get way more good players than that kick.com or marketing anywhere else.


Especially when they claimed in the past that they will never ask for KYC unless there is a strong suspicion of fraudelent activity.
Now KYC is mandatory when making a new account, I have read you can't even get the deposit address without even entering your data to complete level 1 verification.
Kinda sad development considering  we are talking about a crypto casino.
No other big site other than stake is doing this.

hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 672
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You're wrong IMO, they've already ruined their reputation here, by locking many accounts without giving any reason and requiring endless KYC, mostly when those customers were starting to cumulate some profits. I think they don't really care about their image here anymore TBH. .....
KYC policy without any doubt is the worst policy from casinos but it's now part of most casinos and that's why questioning it would be a stupid move. One should read the T&C of a casino before joining that casino because without reading the T&C of a casino one may later have to go through KYC verification.

I'm not sure that you're right or not but if they don't really care about their reputation at Bitcointalk then why would they're still marketing on this forum via their signature campaign? I know they have been spending way more on Kick.com but I guess they're still not running away from Bitcointalk and I agree that from Bitcointalk they can get way more good players than that kick.com or marketing anywhere else.
jr. member
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Stake: Where is your salary of March? Why did you not loose it to us just like every other month's  Grin.

On the serious note;
I am witnessing increasing number of similar cases against Stake which is honestly quite alarming.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 1060
Follow the link of Stake.com at Bitcointalk that was mentioned by Cantsay and post your comment at that thread. You may also contact the campaign manager of Stake who may somehow help to recover your funds.

I'm pretty sure if you haven't broken any rules of Stake then you may get your money because Stake is a reputed casino and they won't ruin their reputation for $8270 USD.
You're wrong IMO, they've already ruined their reputation here, by locking many accounts without giving any reason and requiring endless KYC, mostly when those customers were starting to cumulate some profits. I think they don't really care about their image here anymore TBH. It's a very bad marketing strategy IMO, because they would get certainly more customers from Bitcointalk nowadays than from Kick where they've invested dozens of millions USD to pay falling streamers.
I'd agree with you. They don't care what they do here anymore. They've stiffed and delayed a lot of posters here. They shell out big money for ambassadors, stiff the winners and payout those they think will give it back.
hero member
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!!! UPDATE !!!!

They have rejected me again, I suppose they hope that one will give up and consider their money lost, this situation is desperate, I no longer know what documents to send, every time they reject they ask me for the same information over and over again, I have sent photographed images inside from a pdf


https://ibb.co/pybkjHH
https://postimg.cc/B8RQd8ZR


Wow, reading rejections like this really get the blood boiling in my opinion.
I mean, asking for something like ID and proof of address because of banned regions is a legit ask (even though in the past they promoted and said stuff like "we will never ask for KYC") but asking for proof of funds is already quite sketchy.
Then rejecting document after document and say stuff like " but this month is missing " and whatever, just ridiculous.

They will kick their customers until they give up because they just get exhausted, very shady behaviour for the "market leader" honestly.
Hopefully this is a warning for people considering to play there. It can happen to anyone, guilty or not.
legendary
Activity: 2604
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Follow the link of Stake.com at Bitcointalk that was mentioned by Cantsay and post your comment at that thread. You may also contact the campaign manager of Stake who may somehow help to recover your funds.

I'm pretty sure if you haven't broken any rules of Stake then you may get your money because Stake is a reputed casino and they won't ruin their reputation for $8270 USD.
You're wrong IMO, they've already ruined their reputation here, by locking many accounts without giving any reason and requiring endless KYC, mostly when those customers were starting to cumulate some profits. I think they don't really care about their image here anymore TBH. It's a very bad marketing strategy IMO, because they would get certainly more customers from Bitcointalk nowadays than from Kick where they've invested dozens of millions USD to pay falling streamers.
legendary
Activity: 2562
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Yes, I'm an asshole
I have sent address documents and proof of payments from my company again, I have even attached photos of myself wearing clothes with the logo of the company I work for, proof of my credit card account statement on which my address appears, Even a photo of my credit card, also receipts for additional services, all photographed and showing the 4 corners as they request. They shouldn't reject me again, after this and I wouldn't know what else to send.


https://postimg.cc/JtDT4NdF


https://postimg.cc/8jLtL1GB

!!! UPDATE !!!!

They have rejected me again, I suppose they hope that one will give up and consider their money lost, this situation is desperate, I no longer know what documents to send, every time they reject they ask me for the same information over and over again, I have sent photographed images inside from a pdf


https://ibb.co/pybkjHH


https://postimg.cc/B8RQd8ZR


OP, please don't post in consecutive, it's against forum rules. If you want to add an update before any other people made a post, you can add that by editing your latest post.

Moving to your screenshot, can you tell us why your company pay you in cash in March?  And I understand that you're still receiving a receipt for that month? Is it possible to produce the same receipt for March, April, and May, and submit them altogether for level-4 KYC purpose?
newbie
Activity: 4
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!!! UPDATE !!!!

They have rejected me again, I suppose they hope that one will give up and consider their money lost, this situation is desperate, I no longer know what documents to send, every time they reject they ask me for the same information over and over again, I have sent photographed images inside from a pdf


https://ibb.co/pybkjHH
https://postimg.cc/B8RQd8ZR
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
I have sent address documents and proof of payments from my company again, I have even attached photos of myself wearing clothes with the logo of the company I work for, proof of my credit card account statement on which my address appears, Even a photo of my credit card, also receipts for additional services, all photographed and showing the 4 corners as they request. They shouldn't reject me again, after this and I wouldn't know what else to send.

https://postimg.cc/JtDT4NdF

https://postimg.cc/8jLtL1GB

legendary
Activity: 2352
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Is it just me or the images OP provided through imgbb are inaccessible anymore? If it is just me [and perhaps selected other few], can someone please reupload them to talkimg so everyone can see them?
everything looks fine on my side, I can see the screenshot OP shared just fine, though the loading was quite slow for some reason. not sure if that has something to do with why you aren't seeing the OP's images.

anyway, here are the re-uploaded screenshots OP shared.









legendary
Activity: 2562
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Is it just me or the images OP provided through imgbb are inaccessible anymore? If it is just me [and perhaps selected other few], can someone please reupload them to talkimg so everyone can see them?



And OP, going a bit blind because there are no images available to help me understand things better, do I understand correctly that you're asked to perform level 4 KYC [source of wealth], and your documents and whatever you've provided to them, has been constantly being rejected for the last 16 days since this case first arised?
jr. member
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The image that OP posted showing his session's location;


Please post sessions with timings so that we can see that indeed you did not place bets from unrestricted county. Do not hide or crop any thing except few numbers of I.P. the way you just did.
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