Topic: Stake your Bitcoin address here - page 68. (Read 1462782 times)

The message failed verification on 4 different websites. Are you sure you've signed the message correctly? Please re-verify.

Another user verified it on Electrum and worked apparently. Sorry for the mess.

Please verify and quote, thank you 

Quoted. Maybe you can sign a message from it?

I'll leave my btc address here for future reference (hopefully I won't need it) 1ZzZzzZGVFtHhyuMg8LqAdLWhYYoGdjtC

Slightly off-topic, but this question evokes a subtly different, easily confusable related point that I think should be discussed elsewhere.  And it’s not entirely OT, insofar as I don’t think it’s uncommon for people on this forum to use messages signed by “stake” addresses to prove ownership of coins (in contradistinction to technical control of coins).

The argument advanced by various Core developers against reliance on signmessage to prove ownership (as opposed to control) of UTXOs is:


I respectfully disagree with sipa, luke-jr, and others so stating (and I should probably say so on that issue).  I argue strictly that control of the private keys equals title to the Bitcoin, period; and it is dangerous to blur a rule logically inherent in the nature decentralized, trustless, permissionless cryptographic money.

If you are a custodial exchange, etc., then you may be holding title to that Bitcoin as a nominee, or (quite arguably) a bailee, or some other legal concept which may be logical to apply.  However, account-holders at custodial exchanges are not the titular owners of any Bitcoin at all, in my opinion.  If you don’t have the private keys, then it is not your Bitcoin:  It is somebody else’s Bitcoin; and that somebody else, the titular owner of the Bitcoin, has contractually agreed to let you excercise beneficial ownership of some sort.

So many ills of this world result when ownership is divorced from control.  (Aside, don’t get me started on how the separation of ownership, control, and responsibility is a major factor in the widespread corruption of modern corporations.)  Don’t do that with Bitcoin.

In my analysis, ownership is fully congruent with the use of digital signatures to control money in a decentralized, trustless, permissionless system; and legal agreements outside the four corners of Bitcoin script are properly compartmented where they belong, in the realm of legal contracts and the legal enforcement thereof.

(N.b. that the same argument applies to theft:  A thief who uses wrongful means to obtain title is still holding titular ownership, and will continue to do so unless recovery is effectuated by avoiding the improperly obtained title.  By analogy, consider a criminal who uses forgery, coercion, or fraud in the factum to wrongfully obtain a deed to lands—although that deed would probably be adjudged absolutely void, not merely voidable, whereas a Bitcoin transaction is only absolutely void if a blockchain reorg retroactively invalidates it.)

Of course, the moving of coins is little different than signmessage in this aspect:  A custodial exchange (etc.) can spend UTXOs to its own addresses, just as you can to yours.

the coin-moving is close to equal to a message.


but you don’t need to move the coins until you need to prove control of the address.

less work.

also moving coins for an address should always be doable while message signing can be dropped on some wallets.

my 2 addresses for my accounts are easy to move coins in and out of.

the vanity is good

the older one is good.

From where I sit..no difference at all if the wallets have "sign"-message option but some of them don't have it.

I'm curious, what is your perceived difference between signing a message and moving coins to determine "proof of control"?

Both require access to the private keys to be able to "sign" the message or transaction (or the ability to coerce someone who does into doing what you are asking). So I don't see how shifting funds is any more trustworthy than a signed message?

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here we go
Finally did it ..
wanted to do this for a long time but flew out of my head.

There you have it quoted and clear.
Archived here.

It is pretty simple.

I don't like signing as proof I prefer coin in and coin out as proof of control.

I have 2 accounts

philipma1957  this was staked  to this address back on page 222 of this thread

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

judypug1956

my alt is staked to this address


1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

I finally was able to make a nice vanity for my alt .

If I ever need to prove I control either address I will put coin in and out of each address.


I have had a lot of issues with the main account philipma1957

As I have been doxxed with it.
I have been sent nasty pm's.
I have been sent nasty emails.
I get repetitive attacks against it. In hacking attempts.

So I have been posting with the alt more often and decided to stake the alt.  I want people to know it is my alt.
So I am efforting this on this thread.

I'm not sure I'm following this series of posts, however, message quoted and Archived [1], [2] for prosperity.

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This is good work on your part just happens to be healthy  concern  thanks.  If you want I can put coin into my longtime address

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  take it out and move it to my alts address

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

then  take it out and move it back to my main address

phil

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Yeah  this is philipma1957  and that has been my alt for years.

I don't message as I don't fell that is proper way to verify and address.


When and if I need to verify    either my address  or judypug1956 address I will place 0.00000xxx btc into the account then withdraw 0.00000xxx btc   which proves I own the address.

Please stop kidding. If the post is made by real philipma1957, it will be signed with a better message, right format, and with the address he already signed for his main.

This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA

Thank you I just looked from pages 50 to 124

since I am on page 222  I had a long time left to look.

I also learned something about how to find certain things on the website.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16278790

Search "philipma1957" in search engine in this thread.

Other then looking at every post from 2014 to 2016 how do I find my post for staking.  I am fairly sure I Staked my address in the first 100 pages of this thread.