Topic: Stake.com - The Good, the bad, the ugly... (Read 573 times)

during my time as a stake user, I have never had a big problem, yes I am just a small player with very minimal capital, and very different from you, or does it only apply to people who have large capital? I don't know the exact answer, but you have played in various casinos and you are clearly able to distinguish it, maybe there are other friends who think so about stake, but it could be that you expect too much of a big win and you haven't gotten it so bad thoughts start to appear

Many times as newbie players we believe that if we deposit a lot of money we must win, it is an obligation to win and it is not like that, things in the casinos do not work like that, the casinos have their house advantage, it is obvious that they have to have a profit rate, that is why they are companies, businesses that will always have their profits, but the casino always opens windows so that players can win, otherwise they would not exist, because no one goes to a casino to throw away their money, everyone goes but with the consideration that their money is constantly at risk.

Every player must be clear about that, if they are not clear about that, they do not have that maturity, there will Always be accusations of fraud or something just Because of the person's Ignorance.

This is the concluding part of my reply to your allegation/review, and in fairness, this review seems biased and targeted. And as much I would want to be neutral here, a simple proof howsoever little will go a long way.

I score you negative on the bonus formula because, like I said yesterday, it's solely at Stake's discretion and left to you to accept it or decline. On release dates, I don't emphatically know what you mean but the company has their absolute say here too. Even if there is a delay, I am sure they have their reason, logistic and technical issues may arise at any time.

As for the closing of accounts, I frown at this myself but I still have to remain neutral about it until you provide proof. What if you are at fault but still attack Stake because you are not a happy customer?

House will always have the edge, however, if Stake is as bad as you painted it, why is it that most people still prefer to play there? What you allege is happening in every casino. Also, a technical glitch is a must for all systems no matter how effectively they are being managed which is one of the reasons I conclude you are just attacking Stake, this review is therefore biased. Perhaps you've seen a perfect system before? Errors are meant to happen, didn't they later correct it? That's if you are even telling the truth.

Stake have been good over the years and uptil now stake remain one of the world leading cryptocurrency casino in terms of gambling volume, reputation and high payout, this success record can never be achieved without any negative impact or attributes also to stake, because just as you rightly said, whatever have an advantage also have it disadvantages this is why we have to accommodate whatever negative side to stake as long as it effect doesn't violate their terms of service and also the right of the gambler.
To a large extent, the ops covers alot of the positive aspects of stake which is highly recommended to prove his unbiased judgement in this review and also covering the negative side to expose some of the bad unfriendly features of the casino, between we are left to consider either to accept the obvious truth which is that we bear the bad side and enjoy the good side of the plartform and making efforts to see them improve on the area we think their need improvement.

I will like to know what the features on stake that affects the way we enjoy gambling?
Have stake slow down on the improvement approach to keep their players always excited with new game's and promos, or have their failed in the fight against gambling addictions, what have changed in the house edge mechanism, I am mentioning all of that, because that are the things that could interfere with the way we enjoy gambling on stake.

A lot of people will exploit the bonus system, if they figure out how it is calculated. The bonus system would reward you, if you lost a lot of money during the week or the month, but the moment when you win a lot of money, it will give you a shitty reward. (It happened to me over the weekend, when I hit a 900x multiplier, just before the Weekly was paid out, and it punished me!)

So, if you play games with a higher Return to Player, your reward will be much different to when you wager with something with a lower RTP.  (Basically, the more you lose, the higher your reward) 

Stake.com still give some of the best bonusses in the industry, so people should acknowledge that and make the best of it. 

I don't think there is something that has a good side without having the other side effect as well along the line, this is what we can encounter with any of the gambling platform of our choice, it does not have to be that only a particular site has an abnormality of challenges in which the gamblers faces when using them, that is why we must also reason along with them that some of these challenges are minor compared to other platforms, except the obvious one which might have affected the way we enjoy gambling on the platform.

I continue with the replies as stated earlier, but again, I am surprised about what you labelled bad here, they are certainly not peculiar to Stake but all casinos I know and their terms of offering bonuses vary.

You are not a professional gambler to have called that rigged. We've always shared on this forum that House always have an edge, so Stake can't be different. The percentage of the House edge now depends on the casino which is why I prefer gambling casino games for fun and sports betting for the money. Just accept the reality and you will be fine.

Believe anything you see on social media and streaming platforms at your own peril. But this doesn't mean that the casino directly sponsors them, some would want you to see what will encourage you to open an account through their affiliate links and continue cashing out on you.

You are wrong here, companies have every right to their bonus terms/conditions and it's not within your right to question the modality of offering. In case you don't know how it works, you may ask their support staff, but questioning them on what is fair or not is unjustifiable, it's either you accept the Ts&Cs therein or reject it, it's solely at their discretion to structure their bonuses and decide who to give and who not to give.

I have gambled on Stake before and I am still using the site to gamble sometimes. There are times that I am going to win and there are times that I will be losing. Sometimes you can feel like the games are manipulated. I have gambled on several gambling sites before Stake and they are all the same in a way that the gambling site will likely earn the money while the gamblers will lose. This is not only happening on Stake but it is also happening on all gambling sites. At least I have gambled on more than 5 gambling sites before.

We have different experiences in the casino. Some may have been joyful on the outcome but some have felt they were cheated and were given a negative feedback as well. But one thing I realized, each casino has their own set of rules and policies.

If we want to play and make our own rules, we'll definitely be attacked by the casino. But if we are being obedient on their own policies, I think the result will also be satisfying on our part.

The problem is gambling is a combination of winning and losing. In fact, it's actually more on losing than winning. So don't attack the casino if you have been losing all the way, that's the nature of gambling. Putting some bad reviews on the casino won't justify your losses, but it will only make other gamblers see you as a gambler who fails to understand the nature of gambling.

The review covers quite a large range with stake and their services, although most of what he Said are true since I have been active on stake for sometime now and as much as I can say, stake have one of the most transparent system, and loads of bonuses that keeps the customer at active state where they enjoy the freedom to gamble with most friendly system that luck comes to quickly.
Aside from being one of the largest and biggest cryptocurrency casino stake have a site that can pay out in high volume at instant state, this is what make them one of the best, although the ops also cover's some negative aspects with stake which also I agree with him, because stake is one casino that demands verification as soon as you create an account which is not so with some of the cryptocurrency Casino of their class e.g Bc.games their can allow a player without verification to make deposits play and withdrawal, unil a certain amount is cumulative both in deposits and withdrawal before KYC is demanded which is somewhat ok for any gambler.

You accuse the game of being rigged, but you haven’t provided any proof. If it’s just your personal perception, it’s still wrong to claim it’s rigged, even if it might be true. If you’re not winning at that game, it’s better to stop playing and look for another one.

It’s not that I’m on Stake’s side, but when comparing a newbie's review to a reputable casino, I’d choose the well-established one. While Stake isn’t perfect, there’s a reason they’re in the top 3 crypto casinos in the crypto world.

I disagree with some of the stuff that you stated. Stake is definitely not as amazing as they once were, but their fairness claims shouldn't be questioned since their games can be provably verified at any time.

Agreed. I don't really care much about the actual formula though since their bonuses are not as amazing as they once were thanks to all the cuts.

Casino will give temptation for gamblers because that is their ways to have more and more members. With the promotion that they always do, they will gain benefit from their members because many people will attract to join the promotion especially if the prizes is big for them.
If they can gambling without think much about the bonus or promotion, they will not get tempts or greedy to get the bonus because they only want to have fun. They know that the promotion from the casino can make them lose control and spend more money from the the amount they can afford.
The bonus will always change from time to time so they must adjust with their finances so they will not spend too much money. That will help them to prevent the big lose.

Well, let's be honest. The formula for bonus (weekly and monthly) is so secret they will never really confirm it or whatever. They say stuff so people stop asking  .
In my experience wager is still a bigger factor than profit/loss. But p/l definitely has an impact. When I had wager of like 75k and a loss I get like 80$ and if I have profits it will be like 50$ something, as a high platinum. Other players with more loss and much less wager and a lower rank get 100$, so how does that work? 
It also always depends on how much bonus (rakeback, reload, drop claims) you had in the week or the month respectively.

About originals, well it's light and day. I have had huge runs on dice for example going from 50$ to 1500$ in one day, just with 50% odds bets. But in the next session you can lose it all when there is an insane loss streak losing like 70% of bets on 50% odds, it can go really fast. What I do stay away from is originals BJ, it just doesn't work for me. I always lose, never win. Often enough starting with a huge losing streak and then playing the catch up game and lose. 10-15 losses in a row on textbook blackjack is nothing special. You get 20 vs dealer 5, next cards 4 3 3 A 5, hahaha. I just gave up with this game on some point. 

If you watch their weekly raffle on kick.com you will learn a lot about their bonuses because sometimes they explain it again and I actually understood it when I heard it from them. The larger part of your bonus will come from your losses and some of it will come from your wagers.

Now when it comes to the Original games of Stake.com, well yes it sucks, and not because of the RTP but because the game is old-school games. There are not many images in it but just repeatable games. So, you will always have the option to not play those games. I played slots and I enjoyed it more and that's when I minimized my play time in original games like Keno and Plinko.
Plus, I experienced a good multiplier in slots that cannot be received in the originals.

That is the reason we have many other alternatives we can choose from at anytime because most of this reputable casinos could easily get carried away with the level of success attained and be led to act in arbitrary to the code of conducts, and also not being fair on some of the games and how the House edge are calculated on some game's.


I accept the truth that there is need for an independent audit on slot machine to assertain the accurate calibration of the the slot machine to offer gamblers a more Fair outcome or a conviction that everything is ok with the present alot machine.

What is the meaning of +1, because I have seen it on few comments around the Forum?

Back to topic of discussion.

The validity of any argument is based on the prevailing facts and evidence that is presented by the both parties and if the accuser failed in backing his point with evidence to prove his case, his argument may be discarded untill he is able to prove that Indeed he has a point to prove at any point, against that we have to be careful in our analysis of cases that comes up and let it not be as if we are too quick to support or make a judgement too fast that is why we always take time before making a stands against or for any case.

Our judgement should not be based on wether or not stake is guilty or not or even because stake is a well known casino here, but our judgement should be based of evidence presented by the ops to back up his claims.
Because that very important since the stake team won't be sharing any of such information because of their privacy policy.

This is on purpose, casinos like any other business want to increase their profits and one easy way to do this is by giving those seemingly random bonuses, as then gamblers will try to figure out the way to max it out, and during that process they will gamble more in order to do so, this is why I often recommend gamblers to not care about those bonuses, as in your desire to get them, you will spend way more money that whatever bonus any casino may give you.

I have to reply to this post three times as you classified them into the good, the bad and the ugly. Let's start with the good but I will not cover the ones you did not add any fault.

First, it would have been more relevant if you were an established member of the forum, but for you to have a single post on this account, I will not be fooled to believe this, the world is ugly enough to know that a big name like Stake would have rivalry attacks and I wonder why you even mixed bad review with what you called good part of your review, why not wait for the bad and the ugly? I wonder what to expect later when I read the bad and the ugly reviews in the coming days.

As for the verification, it's a standard procedure that is even backed by law to ask for an additional one. The only case I can blame Stake is when you provided them with all the documents but still rejected them, thankfully, you never mentioned that. Just provide the needed document and you will be fine.

You will do well by adding proofs to back this up. If your account was locked a second time, that means you are insensitive, did you think they would not detect you were the first locked account? I know you won't state the true reason why the account was locked the first time, but it's easy for you to make it look bad.

OP I have no choice but to disagree.

1. If you have said that Stake have slow withdrawal or deposit you would have been bursted, this is the best part of Stake casino.

2. Coming from a new forum account, hell no.

3. There is no single evidence to back up your claim, not even a single screenshot.

How do you want people to take this very seriously?

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If you are out of luck it is not the casino's fault, people do blame the casino if they start winning less and losing more but they forget that this is mathematical, here is a tip, if you don't like what you are getting you should stop using the casino and find another.