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Regarding about the bet archive.. Its no use if we can't verify them as probably fair.

Well, I think the same, but as I said, it is the first version of the feature, and it covers the needs of the majority of players.

Anyway, because of what @adaseb said, it is always better to check the provably fairness while you are playing.
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JollyGood is correct here. Also, any user can request their data be deleted if they want to completely close their account. We don't require any information for players not even email.
Thank you for confirming that you do not fulfill the licensing requirements! Smiley
newbie
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

https://i.imgur.com/47tGmKT.png?1

We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

Regarding about the bet archive.. Its no use if we can't verify them as probably fair.

Basically from what I understand, you are given the hashed seed and not the actual server seed. So its true that you can't actually verify if its provably fair however even if you were given the unhashed seed, how do you know if its indeed the correct seed since you never actually verified this seed before you started betting.

So in both cases you are correct it won't help you out in that way. I am assuming the main purpose of this bet archive is maybe for a gambler to put their results in some excel spreadsheet and found out in which ways they can improve their gambling strategy.

Its kind of like a trader who analyses all his trades for the year and can find out in what ways they can improve their strategy for more profit.
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its easy.. i have saved the hashed seed, client seed and nonce of the bets that i haven't verified for the reason the probably fair wasnt working during that time..
legendary
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

Regarding about the bet archive.. Its no use if we can't verify them as probably fair.

Basically from what I understand, you are given the hashed seed and not the actual server seed. So its true that you can't actually verify if its provably fair however even if you were given the unhashed seed, how do you know if its indeed the correct seed since you never actually verified this seed before you started betting.

So in both cases you are correct it won't help you out in that way. I am assuming the main purpose of this bet archive is maybe for a gambler to put their results in some excel spreadsheet and found out in which ways they can improve their gambling strategy.

Its kind of like a trader who analyses all his trades for the year and can find out in what ways they can improve their strategy for more profit.
newbie
Activity: 8
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

https://i.imgur.com/47tGmKT.png?1

We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

Regarding about the bet archive.. Its no use if we can't verify them as probably fair.
legendary
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley
member
Activity: 317
Merit: 10
Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

https://i.imgur.com/47tGmKT.png?1

We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?
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Scrabble!
Ends: 19/11/18 @ Midday (12pm) GMT
 
Scrabble has been known as one of the most famous and most played word games that are played within a group of friends and family for 80 years now. So, let's all gather around and play some Scrabble!

Your task for this week is to spell the word "K E N O". That means you must have 4 winning bets in Keno with 17x payout for each bet.

All players who achieve the challenge in the next days, will get a share in the prize pool! There is no limit to the amount of winners, and the more players who get involved the higher the prize pool!

Requirement

    Win 4 bets with minimum payout 17x spelling the word KENO as it is shown below (you have to choose exactly the same numbers as it is shown):


    Minimum bet:
        0.00000100 BTC
        0.00001200 BCH
        0.00003000 ETH
        0.00013000 LTC
        2.00000000 DOGE
    1 valid entry per household.
    Ghost mode must be disabled during the whole duration of the promotion.
    10+ Post count on forum.

Prize Pool(s) (based on amount of unique players)

    Minimum prize pool: 0.01 BTC
    If over 30 participants: 0.03 BTC
    If over 40 participants: 0.05 BTC
    If over 50 participants: 0.08 BTC

How to Enter
    Respond to this topic, and link your bet ID using the link function in the text editor.
    Make sure you post the screenshots of your bets along with Bet ID's.

(Paste your bet id, then highlight and click on the link bet button, as shown in image below)
member
Activity: 317
Merit: 10
Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 15
Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

This is a neat feature, however I don't really think you need to provide a bet archive any older than 1 month.

Most people either

1) Never verify their bets

2) Verify their bets at the end of their session or maybe the next day.

It would seem really odd for someone to verify their bets that they placed 6 months ago.


There are few cases were the bet probably fair verifier doesn't work.. one time one of the probably fair verifier for one game didn't work for almost or more than a month.. in cases like this plyers won't be able to verify those bets. and I think that's the reason they made a bet archive.. but unfortunately.. the bets on the bet archive can't be even verified as probably fair... its useless if you're trying to verify probably fair..

Well, maybe it can be fixed. It is a first version of the feature, so there will be improvements
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Wait a second, I ask since 3 months who received the announced 34 BTC donation and your answer is that you donated 0.15 BTC to Tor?

Obviously no: "Choose a charity" is a program run by Stake to help some charities, and it is always 1000 dollars, and you can participate too.

If you are talking about "other-out-of-program" donation, contact Stunna directly.
Stunna meanwhile decided to fool me with claiming that the program I am looking at is something that independently has existed for a while where PD/stake donate funds to a popular charity each week, while I clearly asked what charity received the publicly announced 34 BTC donation!

I'd like to stop this right here and make clear that this is not a matter of money but rather a matter of principle. I'm happy to donate at minimum the funds involved in this claim to a charity of the community's choosing.

Let us see where this kindergarden will lead to! I already have an idea. Grin

legendary
Activity: 3808
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

This is a neat feature, however I don't really think you need to provide a bet archive any older than 1 month.

Most people either

1) Never verify their bets

2) Verify their bets at the end of their session or maybe the next day.

It would seem really odd for someone to verify their bets that they placed 6 months ago.


There are few cases were the bet probably fair verifier doesn't work.. one time one of the probably fair verifier for one game didn't work for almost or more than a month.. in cases like this plyers won't be able to verify those bets. and I think that's the reason they made a bet archive.. but unfortunately.. the bets on the bet archive can't be even verified as probably fair... its useless if you're trying to verify probably fair..

You shouldn't have to rely on a 3rd party provably fair verification website to test your bets. The method that PD/Stake uses for their provably fair calculations are posted on their website. You just go to  Settings -> Verify and there is a "How to Verify" section which is more or less the source code on the provably fair calculation.

Even if you are not good at programming you can just do a few bets by hand if you want to quickly confirm you are not being cheated. The way that provably fair works with the hashed seeds is basically very difficult to cheat, since the results are more or less deteremined ahead of time providing the client/server seed stay the same.

newbie
Activity: 8
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

This is a neat feature, however I don't really think you need to provide a bet archive any older than 1 month.

Most people either

1) Never verify their bets

2) Verify their bets at the end of their session or maybe the next day.

It would seem really odd for someone to verify their bets that they placed 6 months ago.


There are few cases were the bet probably fair verifier doesn't work.. one time one of the probably fair verifier for one game didn't work for almost or more than a month.. in cases like this plyers won't be able to verify those bets. and I think that's the reason they made a bet archive.. but unfortunately.. the bets on the bet archive can't be even verified as probably fair... its useless if you're trying to verify probably fair..
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I Want It All!
Ends: 19/11/18 @ Midday (12pm) GMT
 
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!" 🎶🎵

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All players who achieve the challenge in the next days, will get a share in the prize pool! There is no limit to the amount of winners, and the more players who get involved the higher the prize pool!

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Requirement

    Win 5 bets on Diamond Poker in this exact order, and in any color - one pair, two pairs, three-of-a-kind, four-of-a-kind and Full House.
    Minimum bet:
        0.00000100 BTC
        0.00001200 BCH
        0.00003000 ETH
        0.00012000 LTC
        2.00000000 DOGE
    1 valid entry per household.
    Ghost mode must be disabled during the whole duration of the promotion.
    10+ Post count on forum.

Prize Pool(s) (based on amount of unique players)

    Minimum prize pool: 0.01 BTC
    If over 30 participants: 0.03 BTC
    If over 40 participants: 0.05 BTC
    If over 50 participants: 0.08 BTC

How to Enter
    Respond to this topic, and link your bet ID using the link function in the text editor.
    Provide the screenshot of your bets if you find it easier to keep track and feel free to edit your initial post and add new bet IDs as you catch them.

(Paste your bet id, then highlight and click on the link bet button, as shown in image below)
hero member
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Wait a second, I ask since 3 months who received the announced 34 BTC donation and your answer is that you donated 0.15 BTC to Tor?

Obviously no: "Choose a charity" is a program run by Stake to help some charities, and it is always 1000 dollars, and you can participate too.

If you are talking about "other-out-of-program" donation, contact Stunna directly.

Stunna did not say who received the announced 34 BTC donation, highly indicating it was put into the own pocket!
legendary
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Hilo certainly has been the game of choice for the high rollers lately!
Just try it out and you will be able to become one of them as well!
One simple bet can change everything Wink

Compare to dice, hi-lo is pretty much easy to predict and easy to win but of course the problem is the multiplier as well. I can say it is like a winning guarantee here if I were aim to bet on 2x but the problem is greediness which tend to let me busted everytime. It is just too fast to get the result which is end up faster too. Of course higher roller chose this more than any dice game

Btw wondering about the minesweeper thing, how is it going? Any big hit currently?
member
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Wait a second, I ask since 3 months who received the announced 34 BTC donation and your answer is that you donated 0.15 BTC to Tor?

Obviously no: "Choose a charity" is a program run by Stake to help some charities, and it is always 1000 dollars, and you can participate too.

If you are talking about "other-out-of-program" donation, contact Stunna directly.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

https://i.imgur.com/47tGmKT.png?1

We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 
hero member
Activity: 1344
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2) Who received the 34 BTC donation?

Ah man, talking about donations, the last winner from "Choose your Charity" is the TOR PROJECT (Yeah, finally, I voted for that  Smiley )
TOR is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy. Also, using TOR you can access .onion websites (those form the deep web).




Proof: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ec2835b37cd47a14a1e91d24d01f5333f16c25ddb3511155fc7522dd5a2f55e1
Image: https://imgur.com/a/eUpRmdX

If you want to choose the next charity, join the poll on:
https://forum.stake.com/topic/15666-choose-a-charity-poll-3

Wait a second, I ask since 3 months who received the announced 34 BTC donation and your answer is that you donated 0.15 BTC to Tor?

Looks like Stake is run by children!
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