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But really, you're never going to be able to tell the difference between being unlucky and being cheated by outcomes alone. I highly, highly recommend you invest the time in learning how to verify your games. It's a bit annoying and a bit confusing -- but once you can, you'll find it liberating to know without a shred of doubt you lost (or won) legitimately.

Nevermind I didn't want to turn this into a cheating accusation, I just find weird to start the game in such a way...multiple times
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btw 24 red streaks are 5.96046448e-8 a possibility of 0.0000000596046448000000026121712216886638913138085626997053623199462890625

(I understand it's normal to have losing streaks, but a x9 at the very beginning..either I was very unlucky or something smells bad)

I think your maths is slightly off  (should be 0.505^N  not 0.5^N), but retrospective probabilities like that aren't super useful.  i.e. I just  won, lost, lost, won, won, lost, lost, won, won, won, lost -- which is pretty normal -- but if you look at the probability of that specific sequence happening it might be a 1 in a million. But really, you're never going to be able to tell the difference between being unlucky and being cheated by outcomes alone. I highly, highly recommend you invest the time in learning how to verify your games. It's a bit annoying and a bit confusing -- but once you can, you'll find it liberating to know without a shred of doubt you lost (or won) legitimately.
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Started playing dice at 10:55 PM with x2.00 multiplier

https://i.gyazo.com/232f8ca1fdeca17933d0e2193f12e078.png
https://i.gyazo.com/3f50c175be2770e61033f218277142bc.png

Received 9 losses on a row, this is not normal behaviour if you ask me, I tried with other casinos but I never got x9 loss strike with x2.00 multipler just when I started playing, I noticed this kind of thing multiple times here

The possibility for this to happen is (1/2)^9 which is 0.001953125, there is something broken with the way you handle edge

Well 9 loss in a row at 2.00 multiplier is  nothing compare with my 24 red streaks at 2x too.
I think its normal to get 9red streaks in dice

Have you experienced this when you started playing? I got those streaks at the very beginning...not during the game...and this is not the first time

btw 24 red streaks are 5.96046448e-8 a possibility of 0.0000000596046448000000026121712216886638913138085626997053623199462890625

(I understand it's normal to have losing streaks, but a x9 at the very beginning..either I was very unlucky or something smells bad)
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Started playing dice at 10:55 PM with x2.00 multiplier

https://i.gyazo.com/232f8ca1fdeca17933d0e2193f12e078.png
https://i.gyazo.com/3f50c175be2770e61033f218277142bc.png

Received 9 losses on a row, this is not normal behaviour if you ask me, I tried with other casinos but I never got x9 loss strike with x2.00 multipler just when I started playing, I noticed this kind of thing multiple times here

The possibility for this to happen is (1/2)^9 which is 0.001953125, there is something broken with the way you handle edge

Well 9 loss in a row at 2.00 multiplier is  nothing compare with my 24 red streaks at 2x too.
I think its normal to get 9red streaks in dice
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Started playing dice at 10:55 PM with x2.00 multiplier

https://i.gyazo.com/232f8ca1fdeca17933d0e2193f12e078.png
https://i.gyazo.com/3f50c175be2770e61033f218277142bc.png

Received 9 losses on a row, this is not normal behaviour if you ask me, I tried with other casinos but I never got x9 loss strike with x2.00 multipler just when I started playing, I noticed this kind of thing multiple times here

The possibility for this to happen is (1/2)^9 which is 0.001953125, there is something broken with the way you handle edge
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@Stunna i got no response from you sir..
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You should understand that this is not how provably fair is suppose to work.

Provably fair works by being presented with a hashed seed and writing down that hash seed, and after your betting session is concluded, you can go back and verify that the un-hashed seed you are presented was indeed the hashed seed you were given before you started betting.

If they released your server seed, AFTER the bets took place, how do you know that this seed was indeed the same seed before the bets took place? You can't.

This is why its important to get the hashed seed beforehand.

Also when you got 24 red streaks, were you martingaling and were you betting 50/50 odds? Because in that case there are many individuals that experienced the same issue. They basically got their accounts emptied because they hit a crazy losing streak and ran out of funds, this is normal and happens all the time to novice gamblers. I was also burnt that way.
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I know how provably fair work, what I mean is I have seed hashed, client seed and nonce
But without server seed revealed, how can I verified my roll bet?

Thats what I asked to support that I need server seed revealed but they cant provide it

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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

@Stunna i got no response from you sir..
Yesterday I asked to PD support again about the server seed in bet archieve. And they said sorry because they can reveal my server seed in 28 may 2018. So the point is I know that PD is trusted online casino but I cant verify my 24 red streaks Cry

You should understand that this is not how provably fair is suppose to work.

Provably fair works by being presented with a hashed seed and writing down that hash seed, and after your betting session is concluded, you can go back and verify that the un-hashed seed you are presented was indeed the hashed seed you were given before you started betting.

If they released your server seed, AFTER the bets took place, how do you know that this seed was indeed the same seed before the bets took place? You can't.

This is why its important to get the hashed seed beforehand.

Also when you got 24 red streaks, were you martingaling and were you betting 50/50 odds? Because in that case there are many individuals that experienced the same issue. They basically got their accounts emptied because they hit a crazy losing streak and ran out of funds, this is normal and happens all the time to novice gamblers. I was also burnt that way.
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.



We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

@Stunna i got no response from you sir..
Yesterday I asked to PD support again about the server seed in bet archieve. And they said sorry because they can reveal my server seed in 28 may 2018. So the point is I know that PD is trusted online casino but I cant verify my 24 red streaks Cry
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Introducing the Bet Archive!

Our Forum's Admin Dan posted the following notice:

As many of you have noticed, recently we made changes to our database to help reduce server load. The new protocol is that any bets older than a month are now moved to the archive. Your bet archive can be downloaded on Stake Casino via Account Settings > Bet Archive.

https://i.imgur.com/47tGmKT.png?1

We built this due to a user wanting to verify older bets that had been archived. You can download a history of your bets that are no longer viewable under the stats page. We're always trying to build a more fair and transparent experience. In the future we'll be making improvements to bet verification to make it easier to understand.

Hi @Stunna,

Unfortunately. the bet archive only shows "hashed seed, client seed, nonce" then bet results.. and bet amount etc.. Basically the bet archive only shows the results of older bets, results only.. there's no way to verify probably fair with the bet archive..

 

Yes it happens to mee in PD, i want to verify my 24 red streaks which happens in 28 May 2018 (in maintenance before PD 5 were launch )

I asked support and they are still looking for solutions

Does that mean you have been waiting since May 2018 for them to give you a solution?

No I asked support 4 days ago and Im still waiting for the answer 😊

Yep, there's a bug causing that which we're working on patching up now Smiley

@Stunna i got no response from you sir..
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No. As everyone can see, the word "pro" is not stated.


Yea, I think you do mate Smiley Hypocritical
You have continuously shown that your thoughts are not worth 5 cents! Cheesy

I don't think you can exactly speak for everyone.
As everyone can see, I spoke solely about You and no one else!

I fully understand that you have problems with hallicunations, but when you make your mentally ill nonsense shit posts without any connection to the reality, you should be at least able to follow basic things!

If you are not able to follow basic things, why do you post?

Maybe bitcointalk should open a sub-forum for mentally handicapped people?


You're listing it as a feature even if you don't explicitly use the word "pro".
As everyone can see, neither the word "feature" nor the word "pro" is stated!

The truth is, I list it as info.


If you didn't think it was a good thing you wouldn't have included it in the list of features for those casinos.
How do you know what I think?
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Please post on Topic's main Title's subject and dont feed useless arguments.
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No. As everyone can see, the word "pro" is not stated.


Yea, I think you do mate Smiley Hypocritical
You have continuously shown that your thoughts are not worth 5 cents! Cheesy

I don't think you can exactly speak for everyone. You're listing it as a feature even if you don't explicitly use the word "pro".

If you didn't think it was a good thing you wouldn't have included it in the list of features for those casinos.
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JollyGood is correct here. Also, any user can request their data be deleted if they want to completely close their account. We don't require any information for players not even email.
Thank you for confirming that you do not fulfill the licensing requirements! Smiley

Don't you mention "anonymous accounts" for casinos you have affiliate connections with as a pro on your website?



Yea, I think you do mate Smiley Hypocritical
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Regarding about the bet archive.. Its no use if we can't verify them as probably fair.

Well, I think the same, but as I said, it is the first version of the feature, and it covers the needs of the majority of players.

Anyway, because of what @adaseb said, it is always better to check the provably fairness while you are playing.

Just like what i said earlier Sir, there are times probably fair verifier is not working..
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