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Quote from: seleme on July 14, 2023, 04:22:46 PM

I don't have a monthly bonus as a form of reload so it is hard to compare current and previous bonuses, monthly bonuses can be in the form of a coupon. Anyways, we all agree the bonuses won't be lucky for us since slots don't pay anything bigger for whatever reason. My monthly bonus was the same as it was before, IMO.

Yeah we have our own opinion on my side is not always like that sometimes I'm luckier and depending on how we control ourselves, psychologically it is different if we play with free money with personal money with free money we can play more brutal whereas with personal money we are usually more careful, not sure if i'm the only one who thinks this way Grin

tomorrow we will receive a weekly bonus hope you get back what you lost, good luck on your side.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 13, 2023, 05:36:23 PM

Quote from: seleme on July 13, 2023, 04:35:29 PM

And again monthly goes back to Eddie xD
I can't understand why slots behave differently during bonus days, like over 3000 spins no bonus. Even if slot goes bonus round, it doesn't hit over 50x.

Generally I feel the same way when I lose but not for those who won Cheesy

so far no one can prove the casino can control our wins or losses because they basically rely on the house edge as income while those who design games are providers from third parties. By the way monthly bonuses are sent early I suspect we will receive another monthly bonus in early August I mean during the stake birthday celebration, hopefully not just a wish but a reality

some people say the reload bonus is lower than usual, is it true?

I don't have a monthly bonus as a form of reload so it is hard to compare current and previous bonuses, monthly bonuses can be in the form of a coupon. Anyways, we all agree the bonuses won't be lucky for us since slots don't pay anything bigger for whatever reason. My monthly bonus was the same as it was before, IMO. Maybe you should ask from the support team to confirm if it was the right amount you got or not. That is gonna clear the all raised questions probably.

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 11:20:08 AM

What do you think about what will be the future effects of the reduced bonus in Stake?
Do you think that many players will start to leave Stake and find other places that offer better bonus?

Users have already started to leave Stake and looking for a trusted casino with better loyalty bonus system. I have been playing at Stake since last five and a half years, the number of online users used to be only 300 when I started playing there. Gradually they will decrease the bonuses for all the anonymous old users. Only the KYC verified users will stay on Stake in the near future.

Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 11:20:08 AM

Will be there other casinos that will try to adapt the Stake old bonus system (before they reduce it) in order to attract ex Stake Players (in case many players leave due to the reduced bonus)?

I believe that new casinos won't be able to adapt the old bonus system of Stake, and old reputable casinos aren't going to change their loyalty bonus model to attract Stake players.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 14, 2023, 10:29:23 AM

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IMO, they're stuck.

I don't see other sites having more users than the stake, especially "Online-user" who can reach like them in around 20-30K at the same time. However, since they're on the stuck number (the increase in new member are not growing really big anymore) compared to 1-2+ years. They decide to cut-cost on other sector to fill the other section, especially "Reward-Player" to "Marketing-Budget (since the rumor, state owned kick) as well. IMO, they don't really need to do marketing really lot right now because most of people already aware.

Even, their competitior like (Duelbits, Roobet) are no longer do marketing activity really heavy for the past 1-2 years.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 14, 2023, 03:37:54 AM

I think stake will realize real fast that change the rewards structure will lose them players in the long run. Nobody plays at stake for their games. Casino wise you will find the same games at other sites, and the sports book is really bad with low odds anyway.

Stake's last advantage are the fast withdrawals and the reputation, but other sites can catch up with that as well.

I think their player count has already started plateauing due to changes in their rewards, increase in competing sites etc. To be fair, they probably made changes to the reward structure due to bad economy conditions.

They shouldn't let popularity make them blind to their mistakes since the gamblers who made them can also break them.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 14, 2023, 03:37:54 AM

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The more user they gain, the more rewards they should send to the user.

However, seem like it's already too many for them. IMO, the marketing budget already move out to "Paid Streamer all these things & development "Kick". That's why now they can no longer be paid like the old time.

Feels bad ~XD.

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Quote from: xLays on July 13, 2023, 09:38:20 PM

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 12, 2023, 07:54:34 PM

Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.

They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.

Getting more and more ridiculous at stake.

My monthly was reduced as well from $14 to $5.3 (platinum 1) but I expected it to be low because I haven't been wagering for several weeks and my total wager from last month is around $100~ from using the previous monthly.

At this point, the post monthly is like the new monthly in terms of the amount we're getting. Tongue

Totally the same with my situation Platinum 1. Not playing for the whole month except if they give us the weekly bonus which is 2$ every week or sometimes 0.1 cent, don't know how it works, happens. They give us default 5$ for plat 1 on monthly bonus even if we're not wagering. I think its time to leave stake. Lmao.

Yeah, the good times at stake are over for sure. A lot of promises broken. Now even the monthly bonus is down to basically nothing. The only good thing left are pre and post monthlies since they are not about your wager but about your VIP level. Every level gets the same amount ( unless they also changed that ).

I think stake will realize real fast that change the rewards structure will lose them players in the long run. Nobody plays at stake for their games. Casino wise you will find the same games at other sites, and the sports book is really bad with low odds anyway.

Stake's last advantage are the fast withdrawals and the reputation, but other sites can catch up with that as well.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 13, 2023, 07:35:49 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 12, 2023, 07:54:34 PM

Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.

They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.

Getting more and more ridiculous at stake.

My monthly was reduced as well from $14 to $5.3 (platinum 1) but I expected it to be low because I haven't been wagering for several weeks and my total wager from last month is around $100~ from using the previous monthly.

At this point, the post monthly is like the new monthly in terms of the amount we're getting. Tongue

Totally the same with my situation Platinum 1. Not playing for the whole month except if they give us the weekly bonus which is 2$ every week or sometimes 0.1 cent, don't know how it works, happens. They give us default 5$ for plat 1 on monthly bonus even if we're not wagering. I think its time to leave stake. Lmao.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 12, 2023, 07:54:34 PM

Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.

They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.

Getting more and more ridiculous at stake.

My monthly was reduced as well from $14 to $5.3 (platinum 1) but I expected it to be low because I haven't been wagering for several weeks and my total wager from last month is around $100~ from using the previous monthly.

At this point, the post monthly is like the new monthly in terms of the amount we're getting. Tongue

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Quote from: seleme on July 13, 2023, 04:35:29 PM

And again monthly goes back to Eddie xD
I can't understand why slots behave differently during bonus days, like over 3000 spins no bonus. Even if slot goes bonus round, it doesn't hit over 50x.

It’s just the way luck goes. If everyone won then Stake wouldn’t make any money. I always seem to win at first and then nothing for a while. It’s most likely just human emotion and using limited personal experience to try and base an overall opinion about it though. I don’t think the odds change based on the time of the month.

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Quote from: seleme on July 13, 2023, 04:35:29 PM

And again monthly goes back to Eddie xD
I can't understand why slots behave differently during bonus days, like over 3000 spins no bonus. Even if slot goes bonus round, it doesn't hit over 50x.

Generally I feel the same way when I lose but not for those who won Cheesy

so far no one can prove the casino can control our wins or losses because they basically rely on the house edge as income while those who design games are providers from third parties. By the way monthly bonuses are sent early I suspect we will receive another monthly bonus in early August I mean during the stake birthday celebration, hopefully not just a wish but a reality

some people say the reload bonus is lower than usual, is it true?

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And again monthly goes back to Eddie xD
I can't understand why slots behave differently during bonus days, like over 3000 spins no bonus. Even if slot goes bonus round, it doesn't hit over 50x.
The current SVE game also doesn't pay for obvious reasons, when people keep wagering on slots due to the bonus release dates, nothing pays on bonus rounds. Proven many times.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 13, 2023, 01:14:46 PM

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Even you are not losing or wagering.

If the last month you're wagering, the monthly should still give you a good amount (at least the base amount with an estimation of 20-30$). It's based of my experience, but reading some people get 7$ ?

IMO, the bonus already change and stake not give us the detail about these change. Some people seller is also claiming, even you're not betting you still get base amount bonus monthly.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 13, 2023, 10:29:47 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 13, 2023, 09:31:41 AM

$7 dollar compared to $102 dollar is sure very poor indeed, but then, I believe there is a reason for such a significant drop in the amount of bonus you got for this month ~

I don't know what is the exact reason, but they are saving a lot of money by reducing the bonuses. Maybe Stake wants to give higher bonuses to those users who have lost their deposits recently. I had lost almost $1k in deposits during the previous monthly bonus period. That's why I got $102 during then. But I found it really funny as I got only $7 from the July monthly bonus.

Keep your fingers crossed then, maybe you didn't loss enough this month, by the way, is the bonus being distributed that of this month of july , or that of last month being june? Asking cus I am kind of confused here..

Today is just the 13th day of July, that means we are not even half way into the month, how can stake already determine what amount a user deserve as a bonus at such an early stage? I think the bonus been distributed now is that of june and not July, except there be something i don't understand here.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 13, 2023, 10:29:47 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 09:10:46 AM

If it is true that the bonus is reduced (^{read: again}), it seems that sooner or later, rank will have no more benefits especially for the weekly/monthly bonus.

Yep, the rank has no impact on the weekly and monthly now. Because, I had made above $100 deposit on Primedice in the previous month and made a small profit with a few thousand dollar wager. Still, I had received less than $10 from the monthly bonus despite being a platinum rank user in PD Grin

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I think you have already left PD since your last complaint about the anniversary bonus IIRC.
What do you think about what will be the future effects of the reduced bonus in Stake?
Do you think that many players will start to leave Stake and find other places that offer better bonus?
Will be there other casinos that will try to adapt the Stake old bonus system (before they reduce it) in order to attract ex Stake Players (in case many players leave due to the reduced bonus)?

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 09:10:46 AM

If it is true that the bonus is reduced (^{read: again}), it seems that sooner or later, rank will have no more benefits especially for the weekly/monthly bonus.

Yep, the rank has no impact on the weekly and monthly now. Because, I had made above $100 deposit on Primedice in the previous month and made a small profit with a few thousand dollar wager. Still, I had received less than $10 from the monthly bonus despite being a platinum rank user in PD Grin

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 13, 2023, 09:31:41 AM

$7 dollar compared to $102 dollar is sure very poor indeed, but then, I believe there is a reason for such a significant drop in the amount of bonus you got for this month ~

I don't know what is the exact reason, but they are saving a lot of money by reducing the bonuses. Maybe Stake wants to give higher bonuses to those users who have lost their deposits recently. I had lost almost $1k in deposits during the previous monthly bonus period. That's why I got $102 during then. But I found it really funny as I got only $7 from the July monthly bonus.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on July 13, 2023, 09:42:49 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 09:10:46 AM

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I guess the road ended here.

Stake has become no more a casino who giving you a good bonus, so far I know even you are wagering low you still get the bonus at leas base amount by the rank. Then the amount, will keep decreasing over and over time time until the base was hitting hitting

7$ already crazy.

You are very correct, $7 dollar as a monthly bonus for platinum rank is laughable indeed, but like I said in my comment above, and I will want to rectorate the same, and also add that, yeah, bonus probably might have been reduced, what ever be the reason, that's up to stake and I honestly wish they can atleast give their users some explanation on this..

Secondly, like I said before, lets consider our win and losses, some one how lost more during the month maybe likely receive a higher bonus than the person who won more.

Again is in the area of the weekly and monthly income of the casino, I believe weekly and monthly bonuses are paid from the casino Weekly and monthly profit respectively, let's put that this into consideration, with growing user base, which necessarily or unnecessarily might not have impacted positively on the casinos Weekly and monthly profit, as such, bonuses might drop as well,..

Anyways, I am not Stake's spokesperson, I am just speculating on the possible reason why the bonuses are so low, it is absolutely up to stake to explain to their community why such a drop in the bonuses, or keep quiet about it.

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Quote from: panjul07 on July 13, 2023, 09:10:46 AM

-SNIP-

I guess the road ended here.

Stake has become no more a casino who giving you a good bonus, so far I know even you are wagering low you still get the bonus at leas base amount by the rank. Then the amount, will keep decreasing over and over time time until the base was hitting hitting

7$ already crazy.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 13, 2023, 06:31:09 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 12, 2023, 07:54:34 PM

Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.
They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.

I wagered around $1.5k only since the previous monthly bonus, but I haven't made any deposit within last 30 days. Today I got $7 from the monthly bonus as a platinum III rank user. This is the worst ever monthly bonus from Stake in my experience. My previous monthly bonus was $102. However, I didn't have a good expectation from Stake as I faced similar situation on Primedice.

$7 dollar compared to $102 dollar is sure very poor indeed, but then, I believe there is a reason for such a significant drop in the amount of bonus you got for this month, trust that stake will not just wake up and decide to give such a small amount to some one who has been earning in the hundreds, there are mechanics that determine how much bonus one is qualified for by the end of each month, and one example is in the area of wins and losses, those who lost more in the course of the gambling all through the month are sure entitled to higher bonus compared to those who won most of their bets/gamble in the same period of time..
I hope you know this already.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 13, 2023, 06:31:09 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 12, 2023, 07:54:34 PM

Monthly was sent some minutes ago and according to half the forum and my personal experience this was the WORST monthly ever.
They cut it again. Base amount for low wager platinum 2 accounts is 6$ now, last month 12$. My monthly even though platinum 4 was a joke as well.

I wagered around $1.5k only since the previous monthly bonus, but I haven't made any deposit within last 30 days. Today I got $7 from the monthly bonus as a platinum III rank user. This is the worst ever monthly bonus from Stake in my experience. My previous monthly bonus was $102. However, I didn't have a good expectation from Stake as I faced similar situation on Primedice.

This month I wagered around $75,000 and few hundreds dollar loss, I received $120 for this monthly bonus.
If it is true that the bonus is reduced (^{read: again}), it seems that sooner or later, rank will have no more benefits especially for the weekly/monthly bonus.
Anyway there is someone in the forum as Platinum 3 like you, he claimed that he wagered nearly $25k and he received $5 only (in this case you get better amount) Grin

It is surprising to see many Platinum 3 user get so low monthly, and I also heard that many users say their last weekly was much bigger than the monthly bonus.
Something that sounds really strange, how can monthly bonus is lower than weekly bonus.

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