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So, it's not about transparency. It's only about more fun.
To be honest I'm a person who doesn't look at the RTP when playing, so I prefer to play where I want to play at the time. The RTP feature is good, because it will be an option and you will see the opportunities in which game has a bigger chance. But for some reason when I play with a high RTP I actually lose, it's different if I don't see the RTP at all. That's what made me choose to only play the games I wanted to play, regardless of the RTP.

As I said, it's only about fun. Smiley You don't have some better "transparency" on slots with live RTP, nor do you have significantly better chances to win on slots with RTP 97% than on slots with 95% RTP. The numbers say it themselves: you have slightly better chances to lose less in the long run. So, if you choose to not pay attention to the RTP, you are not losing much.
That's right, the point is there because indeed in this case everything returns to self-pleasure.
We can't force ourselves to play when we don't really like a game we don't like, even though the conditions for winning are bigger, that doesn't mean we can win in this case either. in the end it's like betraying yourself Cheesy
I agree with the concept of fun here and it is clear that this should always be attempted so that we can play more comfortably and not be bothered by other things regardless of wins and losses.
I'm used to playing slot games without looking at the RTP first preferring to choose the game I want at a moment's notice.
Because for me playing slots according to my own choice is much luckier and usually always gives us the pleasure we get.
There are also many gamblers here who get big wins in slot games without looking at the RTP first, because after all for me slot games are based on luck alone.
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We can also see and understand that until now Stake.com has never asked for KYC requirements for the weekly or monthly bonuses they give to their loyal customers who have reached a VIP account.
In fact, I would like to emphasize once again that it is unlikely that Stake.com will ever make such a decision or KYC policy for such a VIP level bonus.
Looks like Stake.com has also proven that they can indeed be trusted and are able to provide comfort and security to each of their loyal customers so if KYC is needed for us to be able to withdraw large amounts of money or chase other drop bonuses that have to be verified I don't think it's thing to be afraid of.
Stake.com is already a big casino and has a high reputation so why are we hesitating and afraid.
I have always said the same thing, Stake is way too trustworthy to not trust them with our KYC, it is one of the few places I am comfortable about keeping my information. In fact the list goes as Binance + Stake, those are it. I am not saying I don't have any KYC anywhere else, I do have it in some other local places where I can turn my bitcoins into cash into my bank account, I have some KYC there as well.

But that doesn't change the fact that I am not going to end up doing anything crazy like having some sort of situation handled in the long run. I think it is important to realize that we should be focusing a bit more on what we can do here, and not what we can avoid.
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I once did a slot game without looking at the RTP and the results were satisfactory, around 2000x. but when I play slots, look at the RTP before playing, the results are very bad.
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I never look at RTP, and for a longest time i didn't even know how. I maybe should given the amount that i play slots and i mainly play them. But one thing i don't get is why the slot devs need to hide it under info small print. One would think that really good RTP would be pretty good selling point if it shows up right after you start the slot machine.

Or is there something i am missing here? Would people only play slots with highest rtp then? I would think that just higher jackpots would counter any potential high RTP only chasers.
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As I said, it's only about fun. Smiley You don't have some better "transparency" on slots with live RTP, nor do you have significantly better chances to win on slots with RTP 97% than on slots with 95% RTP. The numbers say it themselves: you have slightly better chances to lose less in the long run. So, if you choose to not pay attention to the RTP, you are not losing much.
yep that's right, it's just about fun and of course luck is also needed.

I once did a slot game without looking at the RTP and the results were satisfactory, around 2000x. but when I play slots, look at the RTP before playing, the results are very bad.

but after a few days I tried playing slots again and the results were the opposite. when I see the RTP the results are very good and when I don't see the RTP the results are bad. So, the reason I say about luck is because I've experienced it.
Because basically expecting about RTP is also not entirely a victory in the end.
This is what really needs to be realized even though in this case there will definitely also be people who always look at RTP first, especially by looking at the big win ratio.
I personally still agree with you and @Betwrong here because the initial goal is also to have fun and in this case I am not too obsessed with a large RTP winrate if it is not to my liking.

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Currently KYC is only to claim bonus drops maybe in the future KYC is needed to claim weekly/monthly bonuses  Wink

It may hay happen in the future, since KYC is now mandatory for new account (CMIIW).
So what you think may happen as well that there will be KYC requirement to claim all bonuses in Stake.
Of course I'm not really worry about it since I've completed level 2 verification sing long time ago but it will be sad if level 3-4 verification will be required to claim all bonuses in the future.

New accounts only need KYC level 1 and it just completes the form even they can fill anything there I'm sure they will agree to these terms Cheesy
My account has also been verified level 2 here since last year so no problem, it's just that I see some of the users above really don't want this rule
obviously, this would be a difficult choice if implemented while I haven't looked at other casinos as an alternative I mean in bonus offers and promos.
I have not really taken the time to check what bonus requirements are to claim bonuses I don't like bonuses and other freebies since their come with a lot of conditions,  if you want fo to remind verified then you have to operate within that limits, so long as stake still offer large deposit/withdrawal without kyc its look look enough for me.

-Unlike trying to cash up with bonuses which will ultimately lead to account verification,  but if at some point I am asked to verify my stake account,  I won't have any problem with that so long I no the extent of the reputation in the gambling market.
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So, it's not about transparency. It's only about more fun.
To be honest I'm a person who doesn't look at the RTP when playing, so I prefer to play where I want to play at the time. The RTP feature is good, because it will be an option and you will see the opportunities in which game has a bigger chance. But for some reason when I play with a high RTP I actually lose, it's different if I don't see the RTP at all. That's what made me choose to only play the games I wanted to play, regardless of the RTP.

As I said, it's only about fun. Smiley You don't have some better "transparency" on slots with live RTP, nor do you have significantly better chances to win on slots with RTP 97% than on slots with 95% RTP. The numbers say it themselves: you have slightly better chances to lose less in the long run. So, if you choose to not pay attention to the RTP, you are not losing much.
That's right, the point is there because indeed in this case everything returns to self-pleasure.
We can't force ourselves to play when we don't really like a game we don't like, even though the conditions for winning are bigger, that doesn't mean we can win in this case either. in the end it's like betraying yourself Cheesy
I agree with the concept of fun here and it is clear that this should always be attempted so that we can play more comfortably and not be bothered by other things regardless of wins and losses.
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So, it's not about transparency. It's only about more fun.
To be honest I'm a person who doesn't look at the RTP when playing, so I prefer to play where I want to play at the time. The RTP feature is good, because it will be an option and you will see the opportunities in which game has a bigger chance. But for some reason when I play with a high RTP I actually lose, it's different if I don't see the RTP at all. That's what made me choose to only play the games I wanted to play, regardless of the RTP.

As I said, it's only about fun. Smiley You don't have some better "transparency" on slots with live RTP, nor do you have significantly better chances to win on slots with RTP 97% than on slots with 95% RTP. The numbers say it themselves: you have slightly better chances to lose less in the long run. So, if you choose to not pay attention to the RTP, you are not losing much.
yep that's right, it's just about fun and of course luck is also needed.

I once did a slot game without looking at the RTP and the results were satisfactory, around 2000x. but when I play slots, look at the RTP before playing, the results are very bad.

but after a few days I tried playing slots again and the results were the opposite. when I see the RTP the results are very good and when I don't see the RTP the results are bad. So, the reason I say about luck is because I've experienced it.
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So, it's not about transparency. It's only about more fun.
To be honest I'm a person who doesn't look at the RTP when playing, so I prefer to play where I want to play at the time. The RTP feature is good, because it will be an option and you will see the opportunities in which game has a bigger chance. But for some reason when I play with a high RTP I actually lose, it's different if I don't see the RTP at all. That's what made me choose to only play the games I wanted to play, regardless of the RTP.

As I said, it's only about fun. Smiley You don't have some better "transparency" on slots with live RTP, nor do you have significantly better chances to win on slots with RTP 97% than on slots with 95% RTP. The numbers say it themselves: you have slightly better chances to lose less in the long run. So, if you choose to not pay attention to the RTP, you are not losing much.
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Yes, I understand that and indeed in the future, no one knows how we will become gamblers.
But here I will give a little of my thoughts on your response.
If Stake.com currently provides KYC requirements for a drop bonus then it is at their discretion because the drop bonus is obtained for free and only requires KYC requirements and is different from the weekly or monthly bonuses that stake customers can claim when they have have a high enough wager amount that their account reaches the VIP level at a certain rank.
At the VIP level it's also not easy to win because each user must meet the wagering requirements that have been determined and require a large amount of money to bet to increase the wager amount.
So it seems unlikely that a weekly or monthly bonus on Stake.com will be subject to KYC requirements because the bonus is a right and a form of appreciation from Stake.com to loyal customers who have managed to have a top ranking account. Smiley
I gotta say, I totally agree with you that KYC requirements for weekly or monthly bonuses is not necessary. These incentives are intended for devoted clients who have put in a lot of effort to reach the VIP level standards. But let's not forget that other gaming establishments, like as Stake.com, have put in place comparable procedures to thwart fraud and safeguard their patrons. Folks, it's just basic sense.

Nevertheless, I recognize that some players might feel awkward disclosing their personal information. Who wants their personal information to be public? Online casinos must therefore balance security and privacy while making sure their customers are aware of their policies. And let me tell you, if Stake.com can offer a clear and simple KYC process, it will only grow its consumers' trust and loyalty.
We can also see and understand that until now Stake.com has never asked for KYC requirements for the weekly or monthly bonuses they give to their loyal customers who have reached a VIP account.
In fact, I would like to emphasize once again that it is unlikely that Stake.com will ever make such a decision or KYC policy for such a VIP level bonus.
Looks like Stake.com has also proven that they can indeed be trusted and are able to provide comfort and security to each of their loyal customers so if KYC is needed for us to be able to withdraw large amounts of money or chase other drop bonuses that have to be verified I don't think it's thing to be afraid of.
Stake.com is already a big casino and has a high reputation so why are we hesitating and afraid.
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will not rely on that too much, because it can back fire on you, if you use a VPN. Some third party Slot providers "block" certain countries from access to their slots and it is not done by Stake.com. So if you bypass these restrictions, you might offer them an opportunity not to payout large wins. (They look for technicalities not to payout large wins)
I agree with you that when you lose or win a small amount there is nothing to research about who are you. But when you will earn frequent or large amounts they will try to investigate who are you and at that time if the trace you from a location that is not allowed or multi-account or broke any rule they may suspend the account and also for big wins they may not pay the winnings. And it is still a valid reason for not paying.
KYC policies will always remain a point of contention as even if deep down we know that as this market becomes bigger and more popular more and more regulations will be introduced, some of us still like to keep some level of privacy, so casinos are doing the best they can to keep everyone happy, however for the whales and high rollers remaining anonymous while they gamble is impossible, as those are precisely the kind of customers governments want to monitor.
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Yes, I understand that and indeed in the future, no one knows how we will become gamblers.
But here I will give a little of my thoughts on your response.
If Stake.com currently provides KYC requirements for a drop bonus then it is at their discretion because the drop bonus is obtained for free and only requires KYC requirements and is different from the weekly or monthly bonuses that stake customers can claim when they have have a high enough wager amount that their account reaches the VIP level at a certain rank.
At the VIP level it's also not easy to win because each user must meet the wagering requirements that have been determined and require a large amount of money to bet to increase the wager amount.
So it seems unlikely that a weekly or monthly bonus on Stake.com will be subject to KYC requirements because the bonus is a right and a form of appreciation from Stake.com to loyal customers who have managed to have a top ranking account. Smiley
I gotta say, I totally agree with you that KYC requirements for weekly or monthly bonuses is not necessary. These incentives are intended for devoted clients who have put in a lot of effort to reach the VIP level standards. But let's not forget that other gaming establishments, like as Stake.com, have put in place comparable procedures to thwart fraud and safeguard their patrons. Folks, it's just basic sense.

Nevertheless, I recognize that some players might feel awkward disclosing their personal information. Who wants their personal information to be public? Online casinos must therefore balance security and privacy while making sure their customers are aware of their policies. And let me tell you, if Stake.com can offer a clear and simple KYC process, it will only grow its consumers' trust and loyalty.
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There are some old loyal members who don't want KYC rules for bunos claims and they will switch to another casino if the bunos claim requires completing the KYC stages, so the perception of KYC is very sensitive for some members for privacy reasons but they might only complete level 1 KYC if The casino does not ask for proof of ID or other documents to be uploaded
If the users are not claiming the bonus then there is nothing to worry, most of the time they wanted to make sure that the giveaways are not abused by multiple accounts and there are not much trusted casinos in this space to switch them every week as majority of the regulated ones will be asking to verify yourself before playing especially the fiat ones.
Yes, it doesn't matter if the user doesn't want to claim the bonus, just verify level 1 to be able to bet on Stake.
I agree that maybe Stake has regulations requiring KYC level 2 to be able to take the bonus, because Stake is one of the largest gambling sites and has very many customers and possibly has level 2 verification regulations to avoid bonus abuse.
We all know that bonus abuse is common in gambling and it's only natural that Stake has those rules.
Because Stake also provides a very large total bonus and wants the bonus to be taken by the right customer to get the bonus.
If there is no level 2 rule, the customer who is supposed to get the bonus may not be able to take it because the bonus allocation has been used up by another user who abused it.
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"The safest way to play" I don't understand. With stake's history of being hacked I don't see it "safe" to be verified.

It would makes sense for example that if you lose your login or want to change something you can verify yourself with your ID. But if that happens they want you to provide everything in the world, just not your ID. They even want to know your normal login IPs, screenshots from wallets where you made a certain deposit from a certain date, and so on.  Roll Eyes

So where it makes sense they are not asking for you ID to prove who you are.
I think stake could be hacked in a hot wallet type of situation, but the KYC could be a third part which means that the problem if it ever gets hacked would not be because of stake, but the company they work with.

On top of that, I understand that you may not want to do KYC, but you have to also understand that if they ever force everyone to do KYC one day, which they may be forced to do eventually then that means they accept the fact that they will lose you and they will move on with the ones they have. I personally shared it long ago, I had an account since the first day, and I had one at primedice before this, so I have been around long enough to prove that I am legit, and yet I still shared it.
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I will also leave Stake.com if they ever force me to complete all the steps of KYC verification. My Stake account is almost 5 years old. Although they haven't asked me to complete the KYC yet, but they offered me to complete the verification in order to receive extra bonuses. The last time I received this message from them on 9th March. I hope Stake team won't make the KYC mandatory for the old loyal users.
If indeed you don't want a bonus with the conditions for completing verification, then you don't need to worry about completing the verification.
Because so far I have used Stake.com and there have never been any problems regarding KYC and of course we can still rely on Stake.com as our favorite gambling platform and we can continue to be loyal customers there.
I myself have never won a big win and made a large withdrawal too, so I don't know whether later when making a large amount of withdrawals I will be asked for KYC or not because almost several casinos did not use KYC at first, but when a customer made a large amount of withdrawals they invoke KYC requirements for the withdrawals for more comfort and trust from both parties.
Hopefully in the future stake.com can always provide the best for each of their customers and continue to be a big, trusted casino.

In another casino to ask for withdrawal $2000+ it requires KYC but here someone has confirmed asking for withdrawal of around $10,000 without KYC
So you can take a comparison and don't need to worry especially because you say you are not a whale gambler but in the future no one knows Cheesy
What is clear is that this rule cannot be avoided, we can look back since stake.com was launched slowly KYC applied.
Currently KYC is only to claim bonus drops maybe in the future KYC is needed to claim weekly/monthly bonuses  Wink
Yes, I understand that and indeed in the future, no one knows how we will become gamblers.
But here I will give a little of my thoughts on your response.
If Stake.com currently provides KYC requirements for a drop bonus then it is at their discretion because the drop bonus is obtained for free and only requires KYC requirements and is different from the weekly or monthly bonuses that stake customers can claim when they have have a high enough wager amount that their account reaches the VIP level at a certain rank.
At the VIP level it's also not easy to win because each user must meet the wagering requirements that have been determined and require a large amount of money to bet to increase the wager amount.
So it seems unlikely that a weekly or monthly bonus on Stake.com will be subject to KYC requirements because the bonus is a right and a form of appreciation from Stake.com to loyal customers who have managed to have a top ranking account. Smiley
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will not rely on that too much, because it can back fire on you, if you use a VPN. Some third party Slot providers "block" certain countries from access to their slots and it is not done by Stake.com. So if you bypass these restrictions, you might offer them an opportunity not to payout large wins. (They look for technicalities not to payout large wins)
I agree with you that when you lose or win a small amount there is nothing to research about who are you. But when you will earn frequent or large amounts they will try to investigate who are you and at that time if the trace you from a location that is not allowed or multi-account or broke any rule they may suspend the account and also for big wins they may not pay the winnings. And it is still a valid reason for not paying.
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Even he can find a VPN with acceptable country.

Any new account right now on "Stake" need to passed "KYC". If the KYC are from restricted country he still gonna to be rejected and stake are gonna to refused him playing on their site.

Unless, he also have ID bought from the country VPN he was using. Off course it's just like putting a gun in his head, in-case there has some problem.
Before 2022, there was no such requirement to fill KYC 1 details, now it is mandatory for new users and they have made new benefits for verified Stake accounts. High rollers usually don't hesitate to fill KYC level 2 to protect account  but this has some downsides as well. Fake ID is worst idea since they can ask for re-verification anytime with selfie or recent documents.
Going through KYC verification with a fake document is one of the worst mistakes any gambler can make, doing this will not only jeopardize your account, but also the fund in it.

I want to believe that it's only pleb players who would take such risk, high rollers who I believe to be serious minded players wouldn't want to try submitting a fake document for KYC verification, as I believe that KYC verification for casinos is not the same for cryptocurrency exchanges, once verified on crypto exchanges, you may never be asked to go through the process again, but for casinos, it is not the same, there is a possibility that in two to three months, a high roller would be required to pass verification again, depending on their wining and withdrawal ratio.
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