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Quote from: OgNasty on February 03, 2023, 01:02:13 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on February 03, 2023, 11:51:43 AM

So, I think everyone in here agree people like me or most the time bitcointalk only chase from Bronze to Plat II/III.

I see a lot of people constantly talking about their ranks or trying to sell high ranking accounts. For someone like me who doesn't gamble much, can it be explained what the purpose of this is? It seems like there is a subset of gamblers who chase the rank more than trying to win with their bets. Does being a ranked up member pay you some amount or are the bonuses so great that it's worth chasing? I looked into it for a minute but only saw blanket statements as to what the rewards are. Can someone break down what sort of bonuses you get for being "Bronze" for example? What are the rakeback %'s or is there a place to see this information. I'm just curious. Maybe I'm missing out.

Well for each level up you get a certain amount, thats the first thing.
I am currently Platinum 4 and when I get 5 that pays 3200$, good amount. To reach that level you need to wager 5 million all time though, and thats a hefty number. Chasing levelups is useless, you lose more than you gain. When you are really close to the next level its worth chasing .

I also always wonder why people see so much purpose in wagering. I play to win, not to wager. I always read something like "damn, I just burned 200$ but at least I wagered 2k", well good for you, that like 5$ in bonus money maybe. Grin

Next to the level up bonus there is the weekly bonus and monthly bonus (also pre and post monthly sometimes), those are calculated based on your gameplay (including if you won or lost some). Also at plat 4 you will get a host at telegram and daily reload bonus amounts based on your gameplay.

Hope that helps.

PS: At bronze you won't get much.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on February 03, 2023, 08:57:30 AM

Quote from: Hispo on February 01, 2023, 10:05:10 PM

Another bad session at dices. Roll Eyes

Can you believe it? in only a dozen of rolls I got out of combat and had to stop (because I had reached my personal loss threshold).
This contrasts much with the first time I played dices on Stake and managed to get a sweet streak.

this is my second bad session in a row, perhaps I should move onto blackjack and let the dices cold down for a couple of months, for Satoshi's sake...

Maybe yesterday was just a day of bad luck for everyone playing slots? Grin

I too did not have much luck at the slot games and got quite frustrated as well. Although I cannot say that I have reached any kind of personal loss threshold, I definitely will be needing to take a break from gambling for a week at least, until my head cools down enough and I can play again without making any dumb bets out of anger or excitement.

I would recommend you do the same as well. Just take a rest and think about something else for a while. Get your motivation and self-control back. Grin

At times when we feel we've lost some money in gambling that we can't easily accept to let go, I think the best remedy to it is to give oneself a break, to continue gambling at that point is a really big mistake the gambler is making, because not only will he or she lose more money, but he's emotion might drive him into doing something really stupid which could lead to even more loses.

I have a personal experience when I gambled and lost about 50 percent of the initial amount I budgeted, I allowed anger take over me and my emotion drove me into betting the remaining balance of 50 percent once, and in a twinkle of an eye, every thing was gone, I really felt bad that day.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 03, 2023, 11:51:43 AM

So, I think everyone in here agree people like me or most the time bitcointalk only chase from Bronze to Plat II/III.

I see a lot of people constantly talking about their ranks or trying to sell high ranking accounts. For someone like me who doesn't gamble much, can it be explained what the purpose of this is? It seems like there is a subset of gamblers who chase the rank more than trying to win with their bets. Does being a ranked up member pay you some amount or are the bonuses so great that it's worth chasing? I looked into it for a minute but only saw blanket statements as to what the rewards are. Can someone break down what sort of bonuses you get for being "Bronze" for example? What are the rakeback %'s or is there a place to see this information. I'm just curious. Maybe I'm missing out.

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Quote from: Bitinity on February 02, 2023, 05:21:22 PM

I dont really understand about how the top VIP monthly bonus works as I'm no longer a player with VIP host. I had a VIP host in the past when the requirement to get VIP host was Platinum 1, and I have no more VIP host since the requirement is increased to higher Platinum level.

Monthly top players reward bonus is given to a limited number users only. Each VIP host has a lot of users under them. Users wagering activity is really big at Stake. You need a few hundred thousand dollars wager in a month to be eligible for the monthly top players from your VIP host.

AFAIK, they had announced that VIP host feature won't be taken away from the old users who already have it.What they told to you when your VIP host feature was discontinued?

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Quote from: rdbase on February 03, 2023, 08:42:30 AM

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Not the bonus mate.

Most of the time, everyone who is just like me is gonna be stuck in "Platinum II/III". Why? because of the wagering amount already to be considered big and we can't do any more for the rank-up.

So, I think everyone in here agree people like me or most the time bitcointalk only chase from Bronze to Plat II/III.

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Quote from: Hispo on February 01, 2023, 10:05:10 PM

Another bad session at dices. Roll Eyes

Can you believe it? in only a dozen of rolls I got out of combat and had to stop (because I had reached my personal loss threshold).
This contrasts much with the first time I played dices on Stake and managed to get a sweet streak.

this is my second bad session in a row, perhaps I should move onto blackjack and let the dices cold down for a couple of months, for Satoshi's sake...

Maybe yesterday was just a day of bad luck for everyone playing slots? Grin

I too did not have much luck at the slot games and got quite frustrated as well. Although I cannot say that I have reached any kind of personal loss threshold, I definitely will be needing to take a break from gambling for a week at least, until my head cools down enough and I can play again without making any dumb bets out of anger or excitement.

I would recommend you do the same as well. Just take a rest and think about something else for a while. Get your motivation and self-control back. Grin

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 02, 2023, 05:22:07 PM

Quote from: rdbase on February 02, 2023, 05:36:22 AM

Managed to wager over $250k before the month ended for the cut off period for January over the past couple of days.
But it was still not enough to get the top player prize for the total wagered amount. Due to some other player(s) wagering well beyond this amount in just the past month. One moderator on their chat did mention to me to secure it I should probably have around the $300k mark to be able to call it in.
Pity since I wagered over $47k in just one day which was mostly on blackjack and crash on the originals game.

A player by the name of Daisydice posted this VIP rank wagering calculator earlier last week on their chat area:
https://sites.google.com/view/stake-vip-wager-calculator?pli=1

Checking this wagering calculator for the next vip rank leveling up, I would need 2.709btc to be able to get to my next vip platinum level. Being at 95.71% it does seem to take longer than the last level. But I can just wager just under a bitcoin in sports bets to get there faster with the vip wagering 3x the amount for these type of bets made on the platform.

Wow. Congratulations. That is still an achievement.
If you don't mind, what rank did you reach this past month? That should be near the top 10, right?
2.7 BTC that's near, well, considering the amount you wager per day. It will just take a few more days before you reach the next level of the platinum VIP.
I didn't know about that calculator, so thank you for the link provided. So I need 24k more to be able to reach the next VIP level. That's a lot of money especially for me who is just doing bets on sports and mostly focuses on just basketball games. I may try tailing the known VIPs on other sports to speed this up.

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Quote from: rdbase on February 02, 2023, 05:36:22 AM

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I don't know about these one.

Geez, it's helping so much but the reality my account already "Platinum III" and not really focused into VIP Level anymore ~XD. So yeah it's a bit to late for me to know these, but is gonna to help other people.

Good luck

@danherbias07 The same rank as ryzaadit is. And you are at the exact same amount that I need to have as a total wagered amount before reaching the next vip level. So yeah, almost there! Wish me luck on not busting or even losing the same amount as the bonus reward for leveling up to Platinum IV.
Because then it would be all for nothing at that point.

@ryzaadit Why did you fall off of wanting to advance your rank any further than where you are sitting at now?
The bonuses or rewards to level up to the next rank isn't worth it to you anymore?

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Yes, you are right. So far, I have enjoyed playing slot games and sometimes won some money, which was enough for me. Sometimes I often think why my level is taking so long to increase in rank but I don't bother because my goal in playing gambling is just to have fun.

Instead of thinking about how to increase my rank level, I should play lots of slot games and try to enjoy every time I play gambling. That's enough for me, especially if I can win a lot of money Grin

If you use the stake.com gambling platform and play slots, it will take a little longer for you to be able to level up the account you are using.
I myself also use stake.com and prefer dice and roulette games to be able to level up to make it go up faster.
If you just want to level up, try playing these 2 games like what I did, so you will feel how fast your account level is.
But if you play just for fun and entertain yourself, do what you think is good and you like it so you don't feel disappointed if you experience a loss.

Maybe later, I will try those 2 games but I still don't think about raising my level. But if playing in those 2 games can level up my account, that would be great. My focus is just to have fun and enjoy the game, while the increase in rank is a bonus for me, like when I can get a big win which will also be a bonus for me.

Yes, try playing these 2 games, after all, roulette and dice are just as fun as other games. What's more, if luck is on your side, you can definitely get your own benefits and satisfaction.
By increasing your VIP level on the stake.com gambling platform, the more and bigger the bonuses you will get, the more bonuses that are given to accounts that have reached the VIP level from weekly and monthly bonuses.
The higher the account level you use, the more bonuses you can get, so there is nothing to lose and it is very profitable for you if you can reach a high VIP level.

Alright, I'll try that later. I usually only place low bets when playing craps in the past. Is that okay? And I also use auto roll more often than I have to press the button on my mouse Grin

I heard about weekly and monthly bonuses but never imagined how much it would be but I think it will depend on the number of bets we made before. But whatever it is, maybe I really should just enjoy the gambling game at Stake, whatever the game is and don't have to think about reaching the VIP level. After all, that VIP level will surely come to me one day.

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Quote from: rdbase on February 02, 2023, 05:36:22 AM

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I don't know about these one.

Geez, it's helping so much but the reality my account already "Platinum III" and not really focused into VIP Level anymore ~XD. So yeah it's a bit to late for me to know these, but is gonna to help other people.

Good luck

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 01, 2023, 02:04:17 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2023, 10:42:51 AM

Yes, you are right. So far, I have enjoyed playing slot games and sometimes won some money, which was enough for me. Sometimes I often think why my level is taking so long to increase in rank but I don't bother because my goal in playing gambling is just to have fun.

Instead of thinking about how to increase my rank level, I should play lots of slot games and try to enjoy every time I play gambling. That's enough for me, especially if I can win a lot of money Grin

If you use the stake.com gambling platform and play slots, it will take a little longer for you to be able to level up the account you are using.
I myself also use stake.com and prefer dice and roulette games to be able to level up to make it go up faster.
If you just want to level up, try playing these 2 games like what I did, so you will feel how fast your account level is.
But if you play just for fun and entertain yourself, do what you think is good and you like it so you don't feel disappointed if you experience a loss.

Maybe later, I will try those 2 games but I still don't think about raising my level. But if playing in those 2 games can level up my account, that would be great. My focus is just to have fun and enjoy the game, while the increase in rank is a bonus for me, like when I can get a big win which will also be a bonus for me.

Yes, try playing these 2 games, after all, roulette and dice are just as fun as other games. What's more, if luck is on your side, you can definitely get your own benefits and satisfaction.
By increasing your VIP level on the stake.com gambling platform, the more and bigger the bonuses you will get, the more bonuses that are given to accounts that have reached the VIP level from weekly and monthly bonuses.
The higher the account level you use, the more bonuses you can get, so there is nothing to lose and it is very profitable for you if you can reach a high VIP level.

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Quote from: tygeade on February 02, 2023, 12:06:14 AM

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I do agree with you that the possibility of bots claiming the bonus multiple times is highly unlikely. Most systems have measures in place to prevent this kind of abuse. As for the wagering requirements, it's true that not everyone can meet those, but that's usually the trade-off for the bigger rewards.

I've also noticed that there are some bonuses that go unclaimed, especially during slower periods like the holidays you mentioned. It's possible that people simply don't have the time or resources to fulfill the wager requirements during those times.

I think stake is one of the most elite secure casinos out there not just because they care about it needlessly more than others, but because they have been attacked by bots many times before. Hell, between stake and primedice, I am 99.99% sure that they are the ones that got the most hatred of all casinos and got all the attacks.

It meant that they had to protect themselves and they had to find a way to prevent bots from attacking. This caused them to learn how to defend by basically putting proper systems in place which would find if a person is a bot or not. I think it took a while though, it wasn't like that at first, but they got better and better at it.

I honestly cannot see how these bots can be profitable with all the wager requirements that are put in place. I have made some calculations on how many bonuses are dropped and how much it costs us to wager.. and the cost to wager the minimum requirement to claim these bonuses... are much higher than the profit that they can make.

Yesterday it cost me $14 to wager $1000 on Dice with a 98% win change.... so you have to successfully claim almost 10 bonuses at $5 each to recover the money you spend to meet the minimum wager amount of say $3500. Roll Eyes

You also need to deal with the constant errors to claim it... and the Capthas if you tried too many times.

True.
I made those calculations last year ago already and it didn't add up. The reward is waaaaay to low, it makes no sense.

On Saturday's stream the wager requirement is now between 3-10k , and still Eddie is talking about bots bot bots. I think it's just a sorry excuse to raise the wager and collect level 2 verification. They did the same last year when they "tried" level 2 as a requirement, Eddie then said the "bots" register their whole village to claim the drops, this is crazy.

Well, Stake should know exactly how much each so-called bot are wagering to match the minimum requirement to claim these bonuses... but I have to agree with you.. it is not about the bots anymore. Roll Eyes

We also keep record of our wagering statistics and how the minimum requirement are increased... way beyond the profitability of running a bot.... and this does not make sense anymore.

Is there anyone out there that are running a bot.. that can comment with a "newbie" account here... to state their side of the story?

Another thing is.... Eddie mentioned that they are considering to reduce the wagering influence done with Original games.... and this will be the last straw for many people..... because the house edge on other games are just ridiculous. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: rdbase on February 02, 2023, 05:36:22 AM

Managed to wager over $250k before the month ended for the cut off period for January over the past couple of days.
But it was still not enough to get the top player prize for the total wagered amount. Due to some other player(s) wagering well beyond this amount in just the past month. One moderator on their chat did mention to me to secure it I should probably have around the $300k mark to be able to call it in.
Pity since I wagered over $47k in just one day which was mostly on blackjack and crash on the originals game.

A player by the name of Daisydice posted this VIP rank wagering calculator earlier last week on their chat area:
https://sites.google.com/view/stake-vip-wager-calculator?pli=1

Checking this wagering calculator for the next vip rank leveling up, I would need 2.709btc to be able to get to my next vip platinum level. Being at 95.71% it does seem to take longer than the last level. But I can just wager just under a bitcoin in sports bets to get there faster with the vip wagering 3x the amount for these type of bets made on the platform.

Wow. Congratulations. That is still an achievement.
If you don't mind, what rank did you reach this past month? That should be near the top 10, right?
2.7 BTC that's near, well, considering the amount you wager per day. It will just take a few more days before you reach the next level of the platinum VIP.
I didn't know about that calculator, so thank you for the link provided. So I need 24k more to be able to reach the next VIP level. Grin

That's a lot of money especially for me who is just doing bets on sports and mostly focuses on just basketball games. I may try tailing the known VIPs on other sports to speed this up.

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Quote from: rdbase on February 02, 2023, 05:36:22 AM

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I know some users have managed to get top Vip monthly coupon under $250k wager. If I remember correctly, the top monthly bonus depends on Vip host and the users who wagered most under each host will be eligible for this bonus. Maybe your host has high rollers so it becomes hard challenge under these conditions.

I dont really understand about how the top VIP monthly bonus works as I'm no longer a player with VIP host. I had a VIP host in the past when the requirement to get VIP host was Platinum 1, and I have no more VIP host since the requirement is increased to higher Platinum level. So it is like competition between users under each host? Means that if we are under a host with hundreds user and most of them are high rollers, the chance to be top VIP monthly players will be smaller compared to if we are under a host with less users and not many high rollers?

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Quote from: macson on February 02, 2023, 11:45:55 AM

i did not see this guy streaming since the beginning but I'm sure it's not easy for him to be able to get such a big win, he must have tried a lot of games before his capital really ran out.
https://i.imgur.com/zCtqfRg.png

[1] https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1621136378863013888

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Regarding this big win don't take it seriously they are part of a marketing team that has unlimited funds meaning that the balance can only be played not to be withdrawn Roll Eyes

the way I identify if they are sponsored players is they always use BTC as the currency.

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Quote from: piebeyb on February 02, 2023, 01:21:58 AM

Quote from: Hispo on February 01, 2023, 10:05:10 PM

Another bad session at dices. Roll Eyes

Can you believe it? in only a dozen of rolls I got out of combat and had to stop (because I had reached my personal loss threshold).
This contrasts much with the first time I played dices on Stake and managed to get a sweet streak.

this is my second bad session in a row, perhaps I should move onto blackjack and let the dices cold down for a couple of months, for Satoshi's sake...

you have control in gambling and that's good, sometimes people will continue to play until the end and in the end he realizes he has spent a lot of money, you can be an example for other gamblers to be wiser in gambling, after all, no one know by moving to another game can restore the previous defeat

^{(sounds like a myth)} there are also many gamblers who are able to return their initial capital by changing the games they play, so don't wait until your capital is completely drained before you move to another game.

i did not see this guy streaming since the beginning but I'm sure it's not easy for him to be able to get such a big win, he must have tried a lot of games before his capital really ran out.

[1] https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1621136378863013888

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That is true and that's why I never thought about raising my level within a certain time. I prefer just playing slots while enjoying "me time" rather than trying to catch up on leveling up. I can't imagine how much money I will spend trying to get to the next level.

Playing slots game by relaxed like now, I can enjoy it more because I play just for fun and stop soon after stopping when I feel like I've played enough. But it's true. Slot games are very tempting to try again and again to see how lucky we are Grin

well, from your statement I conclude that you only need to enjoy any game in this casino without having to think about increasing your rank level. so that when it's time to go up, it will definitely go up by itself.
after all we gamble just for fun to entertain ourselves without thinking about something that will burden us like raising the account level.
and if you often play slots, it is possible that someday your account will automatically increase.

Yes, you are right. So far, I have enjoyed playing slot games and sometimes won some money, which was enough for me. Sometimes I often think why my level is taking so long to increase in rank but I don't bother because my goal in playing gambling is just to have fun.

Instead of thinking about how to increase my rank level, I should play lots of slot games and try to enjoy every time I play gambling. That's enough for me, especially if I can win a lot of money Grin

If you just play for fun you won't notice that you got easily ranked because you enjoy playing those games also I think its boring that you are just playing those games because of the purpose you can earn points to make your rank higher. Enjoy every game you play as you chance to win money and also have fun as that game you are playing is for you to have fun. Though we have our own preference but mostly I will enjoy winning games and the prizes rather than getting higher ranks.

yep, it's better to keep betting on slot games to get a better experience like 500x or 1000x multiplier it's much better than you have to focus on your account level.
and I think sometimes you need to share your experiences in slot games here so we can discuss how the experience of betting on slot is in Stake.

anyway few days i was kinda unlucky on Slot game, i am in 3 days getting bad returns and running out of budget. maybe because before that I had too many good multiplier

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Managed to wager over $250k before the month ended for the cut off period for January over the past couple of days.
But it was still not enough to get the top player prize for the total wagered amount. Due to some other player(s) wagering well beyond this amount in just the past month. One moderator on their chat did mention to me to secure it I should probably have around the $300k mark to be able to call it in.
Pity since I wagered over $47k in just one day which was mostly on blackjack and crash on the originals game.

A player by the name of Daisydice posted this VIP rank wagering calculator earlier last week on their chat area:
https://sites.google.com/view/stake-vip-wager-calculator?pli=1

Checking this wagering calculator for the next vip rank leveling up, I would need 2.709btc to be able to get to my next vip platinum level. Being at 95.71% it does seem to take longer than the last level. But I can just wager just under a bitcoin in sports bets to get there faster with the vip wagering 3x the amount for these type of bets made on the platform.

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Quote from: tygeade on February 02, 2023, 12:06:14 AM

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I do agree with you that the possibility of bots claiming the bonus multiple times is highly unlikely. Most systems have measures in place to prevent this kind of abuse. As for the wagering requirements, it's true that not everyone can meet those, but that's usually the trade-off for the bigger rewards.

I've also noticed that there are some bonuses that go unclaimed, especially during slower periods like the holidays you mentioned. It's possible that people simply don't have the time or resources to fulfill the wager requirements during those times.

I think stake is one of the most elite secure casinos out there not just because they care about it needlessly more than others, but because they have been attacked by bots many times before. Hell, between stake and primedice, I am 99.99% sure that they are the ones that got the most hatred of all casinos and got all the attacks.

It meant that they had to protect themselves and they had to find a way to prevent bots from attacking. This caused them to learn how to defend by basically putting proper systems in place which would find if a person is a bot or not. I think it took a while though, it wasn't like that at first, but they got better and better at it.

Seeing how Stake and Primedice have progressed and adapted to meet the threats provided by bots and attackers is inspiring. They take the safety of their customers and their platform very seriously, making them among the best casinos available. To remain ahead of the competition, it's not enough to just have the right processes in place; they must also be constantly improved and updated.

There have been no bots or security concerns throughout my time playing on Stake. Their dedication to this feature of their platform is palpable. And it's not only a safe place to play; there are many games to choose from, cashouts are processed quickly, and there's excellent customer service. They are exceptional in every way; it's not just one or two things.

Gamblers should acknowledge and value the work that casinos do into making sure we're protected and entertained. They are deserving of our respect and backing, and I would not hesitate to suggest them to anybody searching for a first-rate gambling establishment.

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Quote from: Hispo on February 01, 2023, 10:05:10 PM

Another bad session at dices. Roll Eyes

Can you believe it? in only a dozen of rolls I got out of combat and had to stop (because I had reached my personal loss threshold).
This contrasts much with the first time I played dices on Stake and managed to get a sweet streak.

this is my second bad session in a row, perhaps I should move onto blackjack and let the dices cold down for a couple of months, for Satoshi's sake...

It's natural if you lose at dice because many people experience it too, including me. I presume you are playing for high stakes so it is close to your limits.

I also played a dice game yesterday but used very small bets and the automatic feature. The result is not bad because I can win several hundred satoshi Grin

You can switch to BlackJack if it can give you a win and recover your losses on yesterday's dice game. But preferably, you reduce your bet amount so as not to reach your threshold.

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