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Quote from: asyakashi on April 21, 2022, 03:34:10 PM

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The site is getting blocked by our local provider.

Try to open and visit the website with a mirror link, you can find alternative site (mirror link) in here : https://playstake.io/. I from Indonesia and know the main site (.com) domain is getting blocked. Currently using "Telkomsel".

So, use other link.

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Quote from: asyakashi on April 21, 2022, 03:34:10 PM

Can someone help me?
I am a person who wants to join from INDONESIA. I want to register on stakes but when I visit the website I can't open it, is there any alternative way for me to freely login and explore the stakes?

mmm maybe there is a problem with the DNS?
try to take a look at this site ... https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns
I don't think it's a good idea to use VPNs or any other devilry that simulates your location in another Country since it is not allowed by their Terms and Conditions

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Quote from: seleme on April 21, 2022, 03:20:27 PM

AFAIK, support lets users creating alt account. How do all streamers keep spinning on various rank accounts?
Wagering for increasing race payout is guaranteed loss btw, house edge will be bigger than expected prize at the end of race.

It is never a good idea to wager just to increase your VIP account or to get like spins on a wheel during a promotion. Just play on your normal ritme as in the end, the casino always wins.
I am waiting on new promotions for UFC (double or triple winnings); but the upcoming fights this weekend are not so interesting in my eyes.

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Can someone help me?
I am a person who wants to join from INDONESIA. I want to register on stakes but when I visit the website I can't open it, is there any alternative way for me to freely login and explore the stakes?

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 21, 2022, 01:53:22 AM

The question is.... How many of those online people are bots or people playing on Alt accounts? We see a significant spike in the online users when there are extra "reloads" ....which shows us that there are Alt accounts being used to farm these "reloads" .. Roll Eyes

No one knows about how many of them are bots or alt accounts, but if the main idea is about number of online players then I have to say it does not really matter if they are bots or alts account as long as they are playing there.

The profit of the casino depends on the user wager and on the house edge. The bonuses for the user depends on their wagering activity. So, it will not bring losses for Stake if some users using the platform with multiple accounts. Eventually those users are taking the risk by using alts account. There is a high chance of getting banned.

@Kakmakr, If you want to know about the real user activity at Stake regularly then try to wager $1k everyday and see your rank at the ending time of daily race. The prizes are distributed to the top 5k wagered users everyday. I know you will not be able to stay in the top 5k rank with $1k wager. I have experienced it myself few many times.

AFAIK, support lets users creating alt account. How do all streamers keep spinning on various rank accounts?
Wagering for increasing race payout is guaranteed loss btw, house edge will be bigger than expected prize at the end of race.
Generally, race payouts are better on Megarace during Saturday stream. I prefer to hunt on 90 minutes races since prize worth chasing the race place.

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 21, 2022, 12:25:17 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 21, 2022, 01:53:22 AM

The question is.... How many of those online people are bots or people playing on Alt accounts? We see a significant spike in the online users when there are extra "reloads" ....which shows us that there are Alt accounts being used to farm these "reloads" .. Roll Eyes

No one knows about how many of them are bots or alt accounts, but if the main idea is about number of online players then I have to say it does not really matter if they are bots or alts account as long as they are playing there.

The profit of the casino depends on the user wager and on the house edge. The bonuses for the user depends on their wagering activity. So, it will not bring losses for Stake if some users using the platform with multiple accounts. Eventually those users are taking the risk by using alts account. There is a high chance of getting banned.

@Kakmakr, If you want to know about the real user activity at Stake regularly then try to wager $1k everyday and see your rank at the ending time of daily race. The prizes are distributed to the top 5k wagered users everyday. I know you will not be able to stay in the top 5k rank with $1k wager. I have experienced it myself few many times.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 21, 2022, 01:53:22 AM

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Why do you still need to ask that question?

Loss of income is not a big problem at all, the more important things is their bankroll. Did you know about loss margin promotion? is good for the growing of company even real company always using loss marketing campaign.

I don't things is really relevant for your answer, and @Dewi Aries have really good point view.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 21, 2022, 01:53:22 AM

The question is.... How many of those online people are bots or people playing on Alt accounts? We see a significant spike in the online users when there are extra "reloads" ....which shows us that there are Alt accounts being used to farm these "reloads" .. Roll Eyes

No one knows about how many of them are bots or alt accounts, but if the main idea is about number of online players then I have to say it does not really matter if they are bots or alts account as long as they are playing there.
Farming reload? It wont worth to do as reload amount is usually based on user's level and their last 7 days wagering activity.
It means that having alt accounts but did not wager significant amount will give them nothing.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on April 20, 2022, 06:32:10 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on April 19, 2022, 10:31:59 PM

I think most people were waiting for another free bonuses but in fact there is no other free bonus code during Easter, that's why they feel disappointed. I cant deny that I was expecting another bonus as well but I'm not that disappointed if there is no bonus because I did not take the content of the last email as a promise. It is obvious that they are free to express their feeling but they should also need to accept the fact what they expect is not coming.

Same with you waiting for the bonus code too but the last code seems to be shared in a live stream that not everyone can participate
It's okay we end easter with no extra bonus we know stake has been generous some time ago with the announcement of new sponsors
It's just that not everyone understands it.

Yeah since it was first of April, people assumed it was too early and there would be a few more. If it was during the regular time then nobody would even imagine a new second one but since it was out of the period they normally give it, and on the first of the month then people started to speculate if there will be more or not.

This is why I believe that we were expecting so much from stake even though they didn't even say anything, they never said they would give a second one, they just said the streams and the promotions that we already got, never said free money a second time this month at all. All in all, this isn't a big deal, we will get over it pretty quickly.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 21, 2022, 01:53:22 AM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2022, 01:36:26 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 20, 2022, 10:35:52 AM

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Bankrupt?

Most people with around 90% are gonna play the bonus balance, and we all know the chance of losing is always higher than winning. Even they paid a huge bonus for event around 70-80% are gonna back again to stake.

So, not losing anything. Their user also growing as well, now we have around 9,000-10,000 online people ~XD

Yes, but if their expenses become more than their income... things might become a bit dodgy if they have to pay out some huge wins that was won with those bonuses. Not all the money given out as bonuses are lost, some people win some money and they withdraw some of those winnings. Wink

The question is.... How many of those online people are bots or people playing on Alt accounts? We see a significant spike in the online users when there are extra "reloads" ....which shows us that there are Alt accounts being used to farm these "reloads" .. Roll Eyes

Actually we don't need to discuss this one because only the internal team knows about this we can only guess right
One thing is for sure if Stake feel that promos and bonuses are a waste then they will definitely stop it that is the most logical reason
But what happens is that Stak keep opening new promotions and continuing old promotions which indicates that their finances are quite good.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2022, 01:36:26 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 20, 2022, 10:35:52 AM

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Bankrupt?

Most people with around 90% are gonna play the bonus balance, and we all know the chance of losing is always higher than winning. Even they paid a huge bonus for event around 70-80% are gonna back again to stake.

So, not losing anything. Their user also growing as well, now we have around 9,000-10,000 online people ~XD

Yes, but if their expenses become more than their income... things might become a bit dodgy if they have to pay out some huge wins that was won with those bonuses. Not all the money given out as bonuses are lost, some people win some money and they withdraw some of those winnings. Wink

The question is.... How many of those online people are bots or people playing on Alt accounts? We see a significant spike in the online users when there are extra "reloads" ....which shows us that there are Alt accounts being used to farm these "reloads" .. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 19, 2022, 04:14:50 AM

I think Stake.com has signed a contract with Watford, so they will still have to honor that agreement..even if Watford was relegated. I watched Eddie's (co-owner of Stake) streaming session a few weeks ago and he said that they will just have two sponsorship deals, if Watford was relegated.

They will just sign a deal with another team and still honor their contract with Watford, even if they are not playing in the Premier league. (The new deal might just include a clause to address the issue, if that new team gets relegated) Huh

I believe that they will not have to focus on another one right away, I mean they may in the future, but Watford could comeback as well, they did that very recently. They had sportsbet.io sponsorship, on the first year they relegated and on the second year they came back, on third year stake got it, and now it could end with relegation and fourth year could be coming back again.

Watford has been going up and down for the past 10 years, they are good enough to be in playoffs at championship at any given season, but bad enough to not be comfortably in the premier league so this causes them to be an elevator team who goes up and down constantly. If stake waits enough, they will be back in premier league I am sure.

I'm sure Stake.com doesn't want the brand to be lost from the Premier League, well this is our question who is the new team that will be contracted
Stake can continue the contract with Watford but they really need a new one they will not let their competitors remain in the Premier League (Sportsbet)
Even though it was really done it must be a team under the 10th rank, Brentford for example there are similarities with Watford Cheesy

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 19, 2022, 04:14:50 AM

I think Stake.com has signed a contract with Watford, so they will still have to honor that agreement..even if Watford was relegated. I watched Eddie's (co-owner of Stake) streaming session a few weeks ago and he said that they will just have two sponsorship deals, if Watford was relegated.

They will just sign a deal with another team and still honor their contract with Watford, even if they are not playing in the Premier league. (The new deal might just include a clause to address the issue, if that new team gets relegated) Huh

I believe that they will not have to focus on another one right away, I mean they may in the future, but Watford could comeback as well, they did that very recently. They had sportsbet.io sponsorship, on the first year they relegated and on the second year they came back, on third year stake got it, and now it could end with relegation and fourth year could be coming back again.

Watford has been going up and down for the past 10 years, they are good enough to be in playoffs at championship at any given season, but bad enough to not be comfortably in the premier league so this causes them to be an elevator team who goes up and down constantly. If stake waits enough, they will be back in premier league I am sure.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on April 20, 2022, 03:36:14 PM

I am sure if they provide something huge, people would simply withdraw, so they would have to put a rollover, which would make people just do the bare minimum required and get out as soon as they reach it, and few will so they would eventually do go bankrupt.

Man, most people are a gambler.

No matter win or lose, If they are gamblers they will keep deposit and while they're got a bonus balance. 90-95% they're gonna to play that balance rather than withdraw the amount, because the amount came from waggering.

Since is free amount, make people playing the balance rather than withdraw it. Maybe get lucky to multiple the balance.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2022, 01:36:26 PM

Most people with around 90% are gonna play the bonus balance, and we all know the chance of losing is always higher than winning. Even they paid a huge bonus for event around 70-80% are gonna back again to stake.

I am sure if they provide something huge, people would simply withdraw, so they would have to put a rollover, which would make people just do the bare minimum required and get out as soon as they reach it, and few will so they would eventually do go bankrupt.

However with smaller amounts I agree with you, whatever they give, they probably get that back in tenfold, I do not see them really doing that crazy, I feel like they would be doing fine and most probably not be really that much of a big difference for sure in the end since all of it will go back to them. It just doesn't feel like a needed thing for the time being though, they have nearly 10k players like you said, doubt giving even more promotions with the same mindset would matter.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 20, 2022, 10:35:52 AM

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Bankrupt?

Most people with around 90% are gonna play the bonus balance, and we all know the chance of losing is always higher than winning. Even they paid a huge bonus for event around 70-80% are gonna back again to stake.

So, not losing anything. Their user also growing as well, now we have around 9,000-10,000 online people ~XD

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 20, 2022, 10:35:52 AM

If Stake had promotions for each "Religious" holiday or event, they would surely go bankrupt. We have Christmas / Hajj/Eid-Al-Adha / Hanukkah / Diwali / Easter / Makar Sankranti / Ramadan / Chinese New Year / Halloween etc.... etc... Roll Eyes

Stake won't be bankrupted if they run small or average promotion during the main festivals of each religion. They are running $100k daily race. Recently they have run 1 million dollar wagering contest to celebrate the Easter. So, they have a pretty big bankroll. And I believe you know that how much money stake team giving back to their users through various promotions in each week or month. Usually, stake team gives bonuses during Christmas, Halloween, Lunar new year.

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 20, 2022, 10:35:52 AM

All of these bonuses are funded by players losses, so it will result in ~~higher~~ (lower) RTPs being implemented to pay for all these bonuses. Roll Eyes

I think you tried to say lower RTP, right? Because higher RTP will bring less profit for the casino.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on April 20, 2022, 06:32:10 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on April 19, 2022, 10:31:59 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on April 19, 2022, 07:26:05 PM

We are free to have opinions and make decisions what we think is appropriate and what is not it's okay if someone is still disappointed
Maybe they are expecting too much to get something because it was promised in advance via email there is something big during easter
There are 2 possibilities that they misunderstood the content of the email or were expecting too much.

I think most people were waiting for another free bonuses but in fact there is no other free bonus code during Easter, that's why they feel disappointed. I cant deny that I was expecting another bonus as well but I'm not that disappointed if there is no bonus because I did not take the content of the last email as a promise. It is obvious that they are free to express their feeling but they should also need to accept the fact what they expect is not coming.

Same with you waiting for the bonus code too but the last code seems to be shared in a live stream that not everyone can participate
It's okay we end easter with no extra bonus we know stake has been generous some time ago with the announcement of new sponsors
It's just that not everyone understands it.

If Stake had promotions for each "Religious" holiday or event, they would surely go bankrupt. We have Christmas / Hajj/Eid-Al-Adha / Hanukkah / Diwali / Easter / Makar Sankranti / Ramadan / Chinese New Year / Halloween etc.... etc... Roll Eyes

Also, if they celebrate say Christmas with bonuses and not Diwali .... then people will have things to say about that. All of these bonuses are funded by players losses, so it will result in lower RTPs being implemented to pay for all these bonuses. Roll Eyes

Edit : higher - lower

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 19, 2022, 10:31:59 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on April 19, 2022, 07:26:05 PM

We are free to have opinions and make decisions what we think is appropriate and what is not it's okay if someone is still disappointed
Maybe they are expecting too much to get something because it was promised in advance via email there is something big during easter
There are 2 possibilities that they misunderstood the content of the email or were expecting too much.

I think most people were waiting for another free bonuses but in fact there is no other free bonus code during Easter, that's why they feel disappointed. I cant deny that I was expecting another bonus as well but I'm not that disappointed if there is no bonus because I did not take the content of the last email as a promise. It is obvious that they are free to express their feeling but they should also need to accept the fact what they expect is not coming.

Same with you waiting for the bonus code too but the last code seems to be shared in a live stream that not everyone can participate
It's okay we end easter with no extra bonus we know stake has been generous some time ago with the announcement of new sponsors
It's just that not everyone understands it.

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